[Apex] Posted October 16, 2007 Report Share Posted October 16, 2007 basically i want as much info as possiable on the 5.56 Patriot as im intending to make one... basically the main factor im looking at is who (if anyone) mass produces the real steel, or if not, which real steels are the most popular in the conversion as i want to get as close as possiable for the metal body choice. cheers Link to post Share on other sites
Boar Posted October 16, 2007 Report Share Posted October 16, 2007 I didn't know what this was, but after a quick google it seems that they don't exist outside of Metal Gear Solid (I suppose the whole "infinite ammo" thing was a clue ) Anyway, here is some information I found via google: "The Patriot is modified from the XM16E1. The noticeable changes in the modifications include a shorter barrel and the non-existent stock. The Patriot uses 5.56 x 45 ammunition that is placed into the 100-round drum magazine." And a photo for anyone else as clueless as I was: Link to post Share on other sites
Alirowe Posted October 16, 2007 Report Share Posted October 16, 2007 The real steel is a "DPMS Kitty Kat". I must confess that I didn't know this until I asked Tome 2 minutes ago. Credit where it's due mate..... I can recommend the Madbull Patriot kit. I have one and it's the nicest piece of kit I've ever bought. Got it from WGC. Link to post Share on other sites
tom lawson Posted October 16, 2007 Report Share Posted October 16, 2007 basically there is no single manufacturer of patriots, although olympic arms come close.. take a look through http://www.ar15.com/forums/topic.html?b=3&...5757&page=1 to give you ideas.. Link to post Share on other sites
[Apex] Posted October 16, 2007 Author Report Share Posted October 16, 2007 thanks for your great responces. Alirowe, i was planning on using the Madbull Patriot Long Kit, do you know what the inner barrel length is for it? more details on my Patriot idea can be found here: http://www.arniesairsoft.co.uk/forums/inde...p;#entry1542876 as far as i researched into it, it does seem that outside MGS that they are none existant... i guess ill have to find a Olympic Arms or XM body to use as i dont think my Dboys custom engraving idea fit into any realsteal info... maybe i could adapt realdeal info to the best i can to fit my needs... cheers all, Apex Link to post Share on other sites
snorkelman Posted October 17, 2007 Report Share Posted October 17, 2007 Id love to see someone do an oa-9x series http://www.quarterbore.com/ar15m16/oa93.htm Link to post Share on other sites
Haxortheworld Posted October 17, 2007 Report Share Posted October 17, 2007 I'm pretty sure it's called a Carbon 15, and produced by Bushmaster. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Carbon_15 Link to post Share on other sites
Alirowe Posted October 17, 2007 Report Share Posted October 17, 2007 Alirowe, i was planning on using the Madbull Patriot Long Kit, do you know what the inner barrel length is for it? I will measure it tonight and post it up. I cut it myself so I'll have to check.... Link to post Share on other sites
Silent_Assassin Posted October 17, 2007 Report Share Posted October 17, 2007 Id love to see someone do an oa-9x series <a href="http://www.quarterbore.com/ar15m16/oa93.htm" target="_blank">http://www.quarterbore.com/ar15m16/oa93.htm</a> Oh my God!, How sexy is that OA-98. Duel Wielding Heaven. Link to post Share on other sites
Victory Posted October 17, 2007 Report Share Posted October 17, 2007 MadBull Patriot Kit Inner Barrel Length: MP5, etc. Sorry...don't know the exact length in millimeters, but it uses the MP5-A4/A5 length inner barrel. -Vic Link to post Share on other sites
evilliboba Posted October 17, 2007 Report Share Posted October 17, 2007 229mm IIRC. Link to post Share on other sites
[Apex] Posted October 18, 2007 Author Report Share Posted October 18, 2007 thanks for the replies regarding the barrel lenght, but is that the long or the short version? as im aiming for the long version... i did email madbull but they havent replied yet... Link to post Share on other sites
Lithium Jack Posted October 18, 2007 Report Share Posted October 18, 2007 Rocky Mountain Arms also make patriots http://www.securityarms.com/20010315/galle...s/2400/2473.htm http://www.securityarms.com/20010315/galle...es/0200/213.htm Link to post Share on other sites
SnakeHT Posted October 18, 2007 Report Share Posted October 18, 2007 http://www.x-fire.org/e.index.htm Patriot kits back in stock Snake Link to post Share on other sites
[Apex] Posted October 18, 2007 Author Report Share Posted October 18, 2007 http://www.x-fire.org/conversion_kit/e.p1_slit.html ... Hmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm nice i was going to pick up a madbull kit when i was in hongkong... i might just have to look for one of those instead Link to post Share on other sites
kevdude61 Posted October 19, 2007 Report Share Posted October 19, 2007 Oh my God!, How sexy is that OA-98. Duel Wielding Heaven. I know, I saw that and I am pretty sure I fell in love! Link to post Share on other sites
SnakeHT Posted October 19, 2007 Report Share Posted October 19, 2007 I know someone that is selling a patriot kit. PM me if you are interested Snake Link to post Share on other sites
Sale Posted October 20, 2007 Report Share Posted October 20, 2007 Definitely 229 mm for the long version, I've built one. The short one would use a 141 mm barrel or something. Maybe 170 mm if you don't mind it showing in the muzzle brake chamber. Maybe. It's not a Carbon-15 or anything -93. It's the Patriot, and saying it's something else is a bit like calling the Glock a Sigma or something. Close, but not the same. They have been around both in real and airsoft form a long time before introduced as The Boss' gun. -Sale Link to post Share on other sites
[Apex] Posted October 31, 2007 Author Report Share Posted October 31, 2007 229... thats MP5 length isnt it? well, its less than 2 weeks until i leave now, and im getting a tad worried... Madbull Patriot kits and DBoys CQB-R's seem to be low in stock on the HK retailer websites ive looked at :S ive decided just to keep the standard blank DBoys metal body in the hope i can get it engraved at a trophy shop. not too sure weather to get the HK 46 short fixed stock or go for the Crane stock that comes with the donor gun though... Link to post Share on other sites
SnakeHT Posted October 31, 2007 Report Share Posted October 31, 2007 I'd go for the fixed stock option. Unless you want to vary the length of the gun i see no reason to keep the sliding stock. There would be less grief with battery wires with a fixed stock. With a crane stock you run the risk of losing the platic lugs that hold the battery in. Something which my G&P CQB is threatening me with at the moment. Snake Link to post Share on other sites
[Apex] Posted October 31, 2007 Author Report Share Posted October 31, 2007 thats a valid point. when i was skirmishing a few weeks ago we found the plugs to someones DBoys CQB-R... Thing is my main site is woodland with bunkers so i would find the stock quite appealing but ive heard that the short fixed stock is also very comfortable to use. Link to post Share on other sites
GuzziHero Posted November 1, 2007 Report Share Posted November 1, 2007 OA98...im thinking of working on one. Scope riser, cut through with a bench drill and along, for the blowback unit. Same job on the grip and mag well. Hole drilled into the front of the scope riser to take a long thick rod. Rod die'd on the end, and the hole tapped to match. Only 2 things bug me - plastic would be easier to work on but would it stand the skeletonisation, and where would I put me battery. Maybe rear-wired a remote pack... Hmm. Link to post Share on other sites
Rizla Posted November 1, 2007 Report Share Posted November 1, 2007 that looks awesome tbh Link to post Share on other sites
[Apex] Posted November 1, 2007 Author Report Share Posted November 1, 2007 may i suggest a battery bag on the sling for your power source Guzzi, and i think plastic would withstand the work but metal would work better. Link to post Share on other sites
snorkelman Posted November 1, 2007 Report Share Posted November 1, 2007 OA98...im thinking of working on one. Scope riser, cut through with a bench drill and along, for the blowback unit. Same job on the grip and mag well. Hole drilled into the front of the scope riser to take a long thick rod. Rod die'd on the end, and the hole tapped to match. Only 2 things bug me - plastic would be easier to work on but would it stand the skeletonisation, and where would I put me battery. Maybe rear-wired a remote pack... Hmm. 7.2v stick might just fit the upper tube you might have to make the tube just ever so slightly wider diameter and an inch or so longer than the original in which case just do same with length of barrel and heatshield to keep it looking similar to original. In some respects Id lean towards a plastic lower rather than a diecast one with that amount of slots being milled from it. Link to post Share on other sites
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