Jungle_Spectre Posted May 28, 2009 Report Share Posted May 28, 2009 I haven't had the chance to field test it yet. PROS: -Overall finish is quite good (much better than other ACM pistols like Bell 1911 or Army G17, for example) -Functional decocking lever. -Magazine fills greatly, no spills nor failures to fill. -Blowback is pretty hard (and loud) -Comes with rail adapter, lock key and speedloader. -Best Chinglish manual ever, LOL CONS: -Badly painted white dots on the sights. -Trades are laser engraved, not machine cut. -Safety/decocking lever is way too hard (or I skipped breakfast today). -Safety does not work in double action mode (realsteel feature?) -Magazine catch is weak and has a lame feel. -You cannot see the remaining rounds in the mag. -No spare mags yet. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Zmarre Posted May 28, 2009 Report Share Posted May 28, 2009 What's so negative about laser engraved trades? And could you test if it's compatible (at least mag-wise) with KSC or TM? Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Jungle_Spectre Posted May 28, 2009 Author Report Share Posted May 28, 2009 What's so negative about laser engraved trades? And could you test if it's compatible (at least mag-wise) with KSC or TM? Well, I think that the real ones are machine engraved, the kind you can fill with paint... A friend has the KSC version (old system AFAIK), I'll swap mags ASAP to check. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Punkypink Posted May 28, 2009 Report Share Posted May 28, 2009 That HAS to be a KSC clone. Even that number on the slide 25-094705 is the same as the one on my KSC metal slide .45 USP. I would expect the mag to be compatible with KSCs and vice versa, however I'd be grateful if Jungle can confirm this. As this is likely a clone of the KSC, I would expect the safety to be just about non-functional. It's like that on my KSC USP too. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
NeoVeNoM Posted May 28, 2009 Report Share Posted May 28, 2009 That HAS to be a KSC clone. Even that number on the slide 25-094705 is the same as the one on my KSC metal slide .45 USP. I would expect the mag to be compatible with KSCs and vice versa, however I'd be grateful if Jungle can confirm this. As this is likely a clone of the KSC, I would expect the safety to be just about non-functional. It's like that on my KSC USP too. Mine worked fine, on all 4 of them. JUst a heads up. the Taiwan version of the KSC metal slide is also laser engraved. It's a clone, it's got to be cheap. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Jungle_Spectre Posted May 29, 2009 Author Report Share Posted May 29, 2009 You can check HKPRO to see what I mean about the trades. It's good to hear that mags are compatible... only that they seem to be out of stock anywhere. That and the fact that the replica comes with a speedloader is making me quite uneasy... Quote Link to post Share on other sites
halcon_del_sur Posted May 29, 2009 Report Share Posted May 29, 2009 Does it come with plastic outer barrel and plastic slide, or both of them are metal? Cheers. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
NeoVeNoM Posted May 29, 2009 Report Share Posted May 29, 2009 You can check HKPRO to see what I mean about the trades. It's good to hear that mags are compatible... only that they seem to be out of stock anywhere. That and the fact that the replica comes with a speedloader is making me quite uneasy... I know what you mean. Again I say, cost effectiveness. so no laser engraving, only edging. YOu can always install a Shooters design slide. the KSC USP also came with a speedloader, practically every KSC/KWA does. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
massoh2 Posted May 29, 2009 Report Share Posted May 29, 2009 (edited) I bought one; RSOV used too much orange... but I'm still in love with the gun. I pretty much agree with the initial review, and initially, the safety/decock were both extremely hard to activate, but after doing it several times, it has broken in, same with the magazine catch. My white dots are fine, they're painted inside the circular indentations, its just that they're not as deep as I would like... For the safety, mine sometimes engages... but if i press the trigger extremely hard (much harder than I would normally pull to fire), then occasionally it fires. But this was an issue with the original KSC as well. I think they did a great job of cloning the original... they even cloned the bad features... I can't wait for more mags to come out.. Edited May 29, 2009 by massoh2 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Jungle_Spectre Posted May 31, 2009 Author Report Share Posted May 31, 2009 *UPDATE: SAFETY WARNING!!!* I don't know if this may happen with all KS USP's or even with KSC ones, or if it is a problem with my specific unit. The case is that when you press the decoking lever on a full magazine, the pistol starts shooting full auto -without touching the trigger of course- until it runs out of ammo. To anyone who has one, please check this in a safe manner and in any case do not try to decock the pistol while pointing at somebody. In addition, does someone know if this ever happens with KSC pistols too? I'm growing a suspicion that these are not clones but faulty KSC's which somehow made their way to the ACM market... Quote Link to post Share on other sites
The Thief Lord Posted May 31, 2009 Report Share Posted May 31, 2009 *UPDATE: SAFETY WARNING!!!* I don't know if this may happen with all KS USP's or even with KSC ones, or if it is a problem with my specific unit. The case is that when you press the decoking lever on a full magazine, the pistol starts shooting full auto -without touching the trigger of course- until it runs out of ammo. To anyone who has one, please check this in a safe manner and in any case do not try to decock the pistol while pointing at somebody. In addition, does someone know if this ever happens with KSC pistols too? I'm growing a suspicion that these are not clones but faulty KSC's which somehow made their way to the ACM market... Who's to say that's a bad feature... Quote Link to post Share on other sites
firewolf Posted June 1, 2009 Report Share Posted June 1, 2009 Who needs to decock Quote Link to post Share on other sites
NeoVeNoM Posted June 1, 2009 Report Share Posted June 1, 2009 full auto with a KSC USP? never seen heard or expierenced. ans like I already mentioned, I had 4 of them. I don't think this has anything to do with faulty KSC's. Just plain and simple bad cloning. WE had the same problems with their M9 range. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
massoh2 Posted June 4, 2009 Report Share Posted June 4, 2009 It's only occasional on mine ands its not always a bad thing... Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Jungle_Spectre Posted June 4, 2009 Author Report Share Posted June 4, 2009 "Don't worry, this thing has a decocking lever, look..." RATATATATATATATATAPFSSHHHH "AAAH! Why did you shoot at me?" Yep, it's not a bad feature Quote Link to post Share on other sites
mrpugster Posted June 4, 2009 Report Share Posted June 4, 2009 Just got mine however am having a bugger time getting gas into the mag. The valve nozzell seems slightly larger than the ones on my KSC Glock mags, anyone else had this problem? Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Jungle_Spectre Posted June 4, 2009 Author Report Share Posted June 4, 2009 Mine fills well, but this might have to do with the canister's nozzle: The one I've been using has the thin metal type if i'm remembering well (I don't have it here right now) Quote Link to post Share on other sites
mrpugster Posted June 5, 2009 Report Share Posted June 5, 2009 I've tried two different cans now, one plastic one metal nozzel and it still doesn't fill right, going to see if I can find a replacement valve. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
KUNFUCHOPSTICKS Posted July 2, 2009 Report Share Posted July 2, 2009 The slide on this beast is metal? Where can I get one? Quote Link to post Share on other sites
fenris357 Posted July 20, 2009 Report Share Posted July 20, 2009 had my hands on one of these the other sunday nice and crisp action, quite fun great for someone looking for a sidearm thats not a boring glock and wont cost the earth (i think glocks are boring, i dont feel the urge to hear your counter arguement, anyone, its just a opinion if your are offended then try to find the strength to live on) Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Panoptes Posted July 20, 2009 Report Share Posted July 20, 2009 full auto with a KSC USP? never seen heard or expierenced. Mine just did (brand new), only yesterday. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
The S.C.A.R. Posted July 21, 2009 Report Share Posted July 21, 2009 The slide on this beast is metal? Where can I get one? It's not even out yet (from Gunners) Quote Link to post Share on other sites
DarkLite Posted July 21, 2009 Report Share Posted July 21, 2009 It's not even out yet (from Gunners) http://www.gunnerairsoft.com/catalog/produ...roducts_id=1515 Has been out for a good few months, mate. It was first spotted on Gunners. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
TooBigToFit Posted July 21, 2009 Report Share Posted July 21, 2009 Well I'm sure this is good news for KSC/KWA USP owners. With the whole line gone System 7/NS2, it sure is hard to find 1st generation magazines. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
KUNFUCHOPSTICKS Posted July 23, 2009 Report Share Posted July 23, 2009 Why must Umarex die? Quote Link to post Share on other sites
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