Isamu Posted November 1, 2010 Report Share Posted November 1, 2010 Saw this in Rsov a couple of days ago and didnt see it in the news page Judging for the description, it looks like a nice and useful kit to me, but It would be nice if it worked like a regular mosfet too Has someone more info about it? Link to post Share on other sites
RSM Posted November 1, 2010 Report Share Posted November 1, 2010 Didn't Pro Arms (think another, similarly named company also did something similar) years ago? Given there are more complete MOSFET options out there (Trigger Master for example)the only appeal I can see in this unit is simple way of adding burst functions - which to be fair if I had a suitably marked gun (ie burst instead of auto) that I wanted to add a bit of realism to while keeping stock I'd probably pick one of these up. Link to post Share on other sites
Isamu Posted November 1, 2010 Author Report Share Posted November 1, 2010 DOnt know, im not very into the mosfet world, but as you said, its an easy and clean way to add a "mosfet" to an aeg without getting our hands dirty. For me and my eternal DMR project is a good way to make the gun "semionly" without modifications and with the capability of going back to normal quick and easy. Other use is that I can make controlled bursts easily with my main M4 in fields where are permited although I dont think theres such M4 in reality Link to post Share on other sites
gijohn2 Posted November 1, 2010 Report Share Posted November 1, 2010 There is a discussion about this on zero in , Its not really a mosfet either because a mosfet has a , Base/gate , Collector and emitter. This mearly like a dimmer switch for a AEG but alot smaller / Or like a scalextric remote control. But less of that here is a video http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LwkyaymJ_Kg Link to post Share on other sites
DarkMM Posted November 2, 2010 Report Share Posted November 2, 2010 Other use is that I can make controlled bursts easily with my main M4 in fields where are permited although I dont think theres such M4 in reality Oh yes there is - Colt's Model 979 and 779 to be exact Link to post Share on other sites
Isamu Posted November 2, 2010 Author Report Share Posted November 2, 2010 There is a discussion about this on zero in , Its not really a mosfet either because a mosfet has a , Base/gate , Collector and emitter. This mearly like a dimmer switch for a AEG but alot smaller / Or like a scalextric remote control. But less of that here is a video http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LwkyaymJ_Kg Thanks, theres a review about it too, bad thing is its a bit big for a front rail... but I can live with it . Could you please direct me to that discussion? this item seems pretty interesting DARKMM: thanks for the input Link to post Share on other sites
Gaffa Posted November 2, 2010 Report Share Posted November 2, 2010 I'll do it for you seeing as I had started the topic originally. http://zeroin.co.uk/showthread.php?p=526483 Link to post Share on other sites
Bane Posted November 2, 2010 Report Share Posted November 2, 2010 It has a "Soft start" feature.. we tried this locally on a few home done mosfet builds with timed gates.. it works but your trigger responce on semi goes up the wazoo in a bad way.. Basically it lowers the current across the contacts to a low enough point to prevent arcing, once a connection is made the mosfet picks up the circuit complete and dumps full power.. the time difference between pulling the trigger and full power dump is only a matter of milliseconds, but add that to motor spin-up time, etc, its noticeable.. Link to post Share on other sites
Isamu Posted November 2, 2010 Author Report Share Posted November 2, 2010 So, unlike a mosfet, which improves ROF and Trigger response, this thing lowers the trigger response? thats a huge letdown for me... =( Had a look at the zerone topic and they talk about a V2 model with rof adjutability and less noticeable trigger delay... is there a link abailable? thanks Link to post Share on other sites
aznriptide859 Posted November 4, 2010 Report Share Posted November 4, 2010 I've been discussing this thing with Psy (AWS), and we laughed so hard at the testimonial stating that this "MOSFET works better than EF MOSFET's"...I'm sure Gandolf is gonna roflmao on that one. First, the thing only has 80A protection - measly compared to even AWS's MicroFET offering (200A lowest, while EF's boards are all rated at 300-400A). I'm not saying 80A isn't enough, but if such a situation pops up, the burst unit could be fried. Secondly, Psy told me that it uses a delay-trigger system. A signal is first sent through the wires to detect whether or not the trigger is being pressed - if it is, then the full amount of current goes through, which makes the gun fire. From what Psy told me this doesn't prevent trigger arcing when the trigger is released. Link to post Share on other sites
Isamu Posted November 4, 2010 Author Report Share Posted November 4, 2010 After reading about the original V2 and customer feedback, I think this is still a VERY valid option for a lot of people, even if it is "technically" inferior to other "mosfet brands". Different approaches, different market niches no need to "laugh hard". Link to post Share on other sites
Warning Posted November 5, 2010 Report Share Posted November 5, 2010 wouldn't this in conjunction with a standard-no-fancy-stuff-burst-fire-AB-mosfet be a good idea? Link to post Share on other sites
[NL]Infinity Posted November 5, 2010 Report Share Posted November 5, 2010 This looks similar to the "airtronics" (?) burst unit I got lying around here somewhere. I think the only thing it really does, is cut the power from the battery after a certain amount of time (adjustable by the screw thingy on the side). You really cant expect it to do the same as a normal 'FET, that needs modification of the wiring Link to post Share on other sites
demoncase Posted November 19, 2010 Report Share Posted November 19, 2010 For the price and the easy swappability between guns I've ordered one....worst comes to the worst it gets dropped in the bits box and ignored. As I run standard 8.4v NiMh and am patently not interested in this ultra-trigger response/horror ROF thing that's the 'upgrade du jour' it'll do me.... Link to post Share on other sites
The Reptile House Posted November 19, 2010 Report Share Posted November 19, 2010 Infinity' timestamp='1288993742' post='2391532']This looks similar to the "airtronics" (?) burst unit Indeed it does. I tried one of those about three years ago and could never get it to fire three complete shots - it really wanted to do four or more. Hopefully this one is an improvement. Link to post Share on other sites
druid799 Posted November 20, 2010 Report Share Posted November 20, 2010 just ordered one , like demoncase i"m not interested in superduper fast response or "magazine emptying" rates of fire (seeing as i only run low and mids) so for me if i can achieve a consistant 3 round burst i"m a happy chap and if not , i"m sure theres some one out there that"ll take it of my hands Link to post Share on other sites
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