kullwarrior Posted April 24, 2012 Report Share Posted April 24, 2012 hmm I guess this is great news for the USP users, hopup upgrade can be found really soon. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
volante Posted April 24, 2012 Report Share Posted April 24, 2012 hmm I guess this is great news for the USP users, hopup upgrade can be found really soon. To use new hop up system with USP45, Parts you have to throw away: inner barrel, hop up rubber, bearing Parts you need: new inner barrel, thin brass plate thing(what is this called?), C-ring, new hop up rubber, metal tube outside hop up rubber. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
liewb Posted April 24, 2012 Report Share Posted April 24, 2012 To use new hop up system with USP45, Parts you have to throw away: inner barrel, hop up rubber, bearing Parts you need: new inner barrel, thin brass plate thing(what is this called?), C-ring, new hop up rubber, metal tube outside hop up rubber. But it is still possible, without much trouble, is it not? Especially with KWA stocking the HK45 soon, the KWA Pro Shop will have a plethroa of part to convert to the new hopup system Quote Link to post Share on other sites
emp3ror86 Posted April 25, 2012 Author Report Share Posted April 25, 2012 Inner barrel is the same. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
FireKnife Posted April 26, 2012 Report Share Posted April 26, 2012 (edited) So they have basically gone for a system like the Marui's? Took them long enough to admit they suck and just near copy another companies idea (like Sys7, i am not buying that it is the Glock setup but based on the Marui design). However if that is a good unit then i may chuck one in a KWA USP .45 or Compact and finally have one that can come close to the Tokyo Marui 1911s i have, have always wanted a decent USP (or a CZ75) 'FireKnife' Edited April 26, 2012 by FireKnife Quote Link to post Share on other sites
ollie_ty Posted April 26, 2012 Report Share Posted April 26, 2012 Fantastic, I might take one for my MP9 aswell as my USP. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
volante Posted April 27, 2012 Report Share Posted April 27, 2012 (edited) Inner barrel is the same. Yes they are different. I have USP45 match system7 and MK23 system7. Inner barrel of these two don't have C-ring slot. Edited April 27, 2012 by volante Quote Link to post Share on other sites
volante Posted April 27, 2012 Report Share Posted April 27, 2012 (edited) So they have basically gone for a system like the Marui's? Took them long enough to admit they suck and just near copy another companies idea (like Sys7, i am not buying that it is the Glock setup but based on the Marui design). However if that is a good unit then i may chuck one in a KWA USP .45 or Compact and finally have one that can come close to the Tokyo Marui 1911s i have, have always wanted a decent USP (or a CZ75) 'FireKnife' TM, TK, KSC, MARUSHIN are using modified version of MGC's Hyper-blowback engine. WA magna blowback beat MGC Hyper blowback in 90's, That caused MGC's bankruptcy. After MGC went bankrupt, other companies developed there own blowback system based on Hyper blowback system. So TM,TK,KSC,Marushin GBB system is like a family. Edited April 27, 2012 by volante Quote Link to post Share on other sites
elanaiba Posted April 30, 2012 Report Share Posted April 30, 2012 Wasn't the TM system developed by Tanio Koba? Quote Link to post Share on other sites
FireKnife Posted April 30, 2012 Report Share Posted April 30, 2012 So how come TM can make it work when Maurishin etc can't? And then match it with an amazing hop up? 'FireKnife' Quote Link to post Share on other sites
volante Posted April 30, 2012 Report Share Posted April 30, 2012 (edited) Wasn't the TM system developed by Tanio Koba? Mr. Kobayashi is like Dr. Porsche in Airsoft industry. Almost all GBB system today came from his original design. So how come TM can make it work when Maurishin etc can't? And then match it with an amazing hop up? 'FireKnife' Yes TM hop up is brilliant. But not their blowback system. KSC SYSTEM7 or WA MAGNA blowback runs 250~320g steel slide using green gas without difficult, but TM based steel pistol are recommended to use CO2 or red gas. I have owned TM 1911, MEU, G17, and HI-CAPA but i think they are too under-powered for my taste and don't kick hard enough. After i bought USP SYSTEM7, i sold all TM pistols and replace it to KSC-RAtech steel pistols. If you can tune KSC hop well, it is almost accurate as TM, and about 30% more powerful. I think this new HOP design is easier to tune and stable than previous one. Edited April 30, 2012 by volante Quote Link to post Share on other sites
FireKnife Posted April 30, 2012 Report Share Posted April 30, 2012 and about 30% more powerful. Power isn't everything And with indoor limits in the UK being 328fps TM pistols are better, plus with our countries weather a plastic slide gun and airsoft gasses are better to run, but hey whatever works 'FireKnife' Quote Link to post Share on other sites
volante Posted May 1, 2012 Report Share Posted May 1, 2012 Power isn't everything And with indoor limits in the UK being 328fps TM pistols are better, plus with our countries weather a plastic slide gun and airsoft gasses are better to run, but hey whatever works 'FireKnife' Yes that is true. That's why TM pistols are popular for many airsoft player. It gives maximum accuracy near 1j. But i don't play skirmish. I normally using my pistols for dry fire or shooting cans. TM pistols cannot penetrate cans with green gas so BBs are bounced all over the place. But KSC system7 or WA scw3 pistols cleanly penetrate cans and provides enough accuracy for 8m can shooting. That's why i said TM pistols are 'too under-powered for my taste'. Korean airsoft game also has energy limit(0.8j) so TM pistols are popular as well. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
elanaiba Posted May 1, 2012 Report Share Posted May 1, 2012 I know I'm going off topic but... I have a SCW3 1911 Custom. Would that run ok with a metal slide? Quote Link to post Share on other sites
volante Posted May 2, 2012 Report Share Posted May 2, 2012 (edited) I know I'm going off topic but... I have a SCW3 1911 Custom. Would that run ok with a metal slide? Of course. My friend's SCW.3 pistol even runs Prime steel slide very well. But some of internals may needed to be replaced to reinforced one. Actually, some of aluminium slide are lighter than HW slide Edited May 2, 2012 by volante Quote Link to post Share on other sites
liewb Posted June 7, 2012 Report Share Posted June 7, 2012 Will this new hopup design be compatible with a KWA USP Compact? Quote Link to post Share on other sites
emp3ror86 Posted June 8, 2012 Author Report Share Posted June 8, 2012 Pretty good information source: http://kwausa.com/forums/index.php?showforum=45 There is a comparison somewhere linked that answers your question. KWA HK45 is out in the USA. It is pretty interesting that there is still nothing about the KSC HK45 Taiwan version in Hong Kong. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
icolater Posted June 8, 2012 Report Share Posted June 8, 2012 Think the Tawain versions are going to be a thing of the past thanks to Umarex. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
kullwarrior Posted June 11, 2012 Report Share Posted June 11, 2012 Think the Tawain versions are going to be a thing of the past thanks to Umarex. That is correct, For H&K stuff, all that's left now are KSC Japan and Umarex. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
emp3ror86 Posted June 11, 2012 Author Report Share Posted June 11, 2012 (edited) You know that angry face meme saying fu#uuuuuuuuuuuuuck, right? Imagine it posted a thousand times. So I'd rather be waiting for Shooter's Design to bring out something... Edited June 11, 2012 by emp3ror86 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Vuddha Posted July 5, 2012 Report Share Posted July 5, 2012 You might be able to buy a KWA/UMAREX slide from kwausa.com. I don't know if they will ship to hungary though, and the KWA/UMAREX slides do not have the most accurate trades. If/when Shooter's Design makes a kit for it, I can recommend that company wholeheartedly, they make top-notch stuff. -Vu Quote Link to post Share on other sites
emp3ror86 Posted July 5, 2012 Author Report Share Posted July 5, 2012 Thanks, I checked already, KWA only ships to USA. Giving money to Umarex is something I am not willing to do anyeay. I hope SD is already on it. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Vuddha Posted July 6, 2012 Report Share Posted July 6, 2012 Sorry to hear, SD makes great stuff, when they actually make it. I want a regular USP TACTICAL S7/NS2 slide so badly (No AFSOC logo on the slide since it will clash and offend my USMC sensibilities) and a Phase II Mk23 slide/barrel kit! Quote Link to post Share on other sites
emp3ror86 Posted November 27, 2012 Author Report Share Posted November 27, 2012 SD finally made an aftermarket slide and barrel kit which means my HK45 is going to be revived soon. It is available in black, silver and titanium. The last one looks really interesting, if you check out KWA USA forums you can see it installed: http://kwausa.com/forums/index.php?showtopic=10058 Sadly I already ordered a Creation aluminium outer barrel which I am going to have to sell. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
icolater Posted January 10, 2013 Report Share Posted January 10, 2013 Man those SD slides are amazing, I have held a ksc hk45 with the silver Slide and It looked amazing. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
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