The Budget

[R22Master]

Just found out that my nice new car IS in the highest tax bracket. Only just, but it's there. That means my new Mazda will cost just as much in road tax as if I had bought a Dodge Viper!

 

It's no wonder that 3% of the British population has relocated to other countries since Labor got in to power. Our country is one of the only ones in the world where the population is now going DOWN!

 

Ever wonder why we are each paying more and more tax? It's because there are fewer of us around to pay it. I did some rough workings the other day and with what I pay in income tax, capital gains tax, road tax, fuel tax, national insurance, VAT on everything, insurance tax, alcohol & tobacco tax, and council tax, about 65% to 70% of my earnings are taken by the government.

 

And to reward me for all the money the government take, they are pressing forward to ban yet another of my hobbies!

 

I'm jumping ship as soon as I can. Shame because I used to love my country

[indrid]

I have to add that the BNP are gonna get my next vote

and im gonna fill my 4x4 with cooking oil

[Desolation mkII]

I predict a massive increase in BNP and SDP votes. As the two main parties move closer together and both have basicaly the same type of man as leader people are going to look elsewhere and see that the only party that is really even putting up a pretence of looking after Britains culture and traditions are the BNP and the only party willing to invest in traditional socialist values are the SDP. I guess it will be fun to wait for the council elections in May and see what hapens. I know one thing for sure neither of the big three are getting my vote. I'm just anoyed I missed last years election.

 

Note: I tried to present this in a non (Left wing-Right wing) biased way. Di I succeed?

[Steve Pearson]

Nah, I'll not be voting BNP but I am hoping New Labour (same old commie b@stards) carry on with their obsessive desire to completely control people, coz eventually the populus will snap and hopefully that will result in the Labour government being put against the wall

[Spedz]

As I can see it it will probally end up BNP being power sooner or later. If that happens I will weep. I also find Mr persons Ironic statement that the labour party are 'Commie B@stards' very enjoyable.

[Melonfish]

i wouldnt vote BNP at gunpoint. although they may stick up for a united britain alot of people fail to see the inherent racism in alot of what they do.

 

give me a uk party that wants to improve the schools and the hospitals and makes big gaines to do so. and give me a party that actually cares about what its people say not just one that starts with a mandate writes a crappy and under-investigated document that blankets half the stuff thats even relevent to the original issue and still doesnt solve the original issue.

 

aww *fruitcage* it i'd just like a government that bleedin works.

pete

[Spedz]

Well you'll be waiting a long time Melonfish!

[doc_newstead]

At 18 i can still go with my parents. Thank god.

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You'll be missed.

[Skarra]

Some here have mentioned the BNP... The BNP??? Really??? Here are some BNP policies, taken from their own literature, and points as to why they are so daft:

 

1. The ending of immigration to the UK - Anybody been in hospital lately? How many immigrant doctors and nurses helped you? A couple of years a go i had reconstructive surgery on my face, 9 of the 10 doctors i saw were of non-British origin.

 

2. "A massively-funded and permanent programme ... to irradicate, by voluntary resettlement to their lands of racial origin, non-white ethnic minorities living in Britain" - You read it right folks, if your non-white and of an ethnic minority, be affraid of the BNP.

 

3. The repeal of all equality and anti-discrimination legislation, including measures aimed at employing people with disabilities. - So if you have partial deafness in your left ear, you are on your own... Hmmm, this is a fair party.

 

4. Funding to encourage women (in every family) to stay home and raise children not yet of school age - One person previously mentioned of Labours attempts to gain control over us, i'd rather have a Labour Police state than a BNP 1930's Nazi Germany policy state...

 

Anyway, i digress. Apologies.

[doc_newstead]

Some here have mentioned the BNP... The BNP??? Really??? Here are some BNP blah blah blah

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Yeah, like I'm known for being the serious one here.

[BakaBox]

Well, when it comes to certain things, you are. Politics could've been one of those things.

[doc_newstead]

Well, when it comes to certain things, you are

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What things? I don't even look at the screen anymore; I just have a macro that posts irreverent comments in random posts.

[Skarra]

Yeah, like I'm known for being the serious one here.

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It was a general point aimed at rebuttling the virtues of the BNP. Nothing personal there. Sorry if it seemed aimed at you, but it just so happened my post followed yours. Sorry if you did think it was aimed at you, i assure you it was aimed only at rebuttling BNP policies.

[BakaBox]

What things? I don't even look at the screen anymore; I just have a macro that posts irreverent comments in random posts.

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HaVoC's shoes

[Sledge]

Some here have mentioned the BNP... The BNP??? Really??? Here are some BNP policies, taken from their own literature, and points as to why they are so daft:

 

1. The ending of immigration to the UK - Anybody been in hospital lately? How many immigrant doctors and nurses helped you? A couple of years a go i had reconstructive surgery on my face, 9 of the 10 doctors i saw were of non-British origin.

Yeah, and if that weren't the case, the hospitals would have to pay a decent wage, thus ensuring more British doctors would work in them, and maybe more British people would go into medicine, helping with unemployment.

2. "A massively-funded and permanent programme ... to irradicate, by voluntary resettlement to their lands of racial origin, non-white ethnic minorities living in Britain" - You read it right folks, if your non-white and of an ethnic minority, be affraid of the BNP.

Note the "voluntary." Does it say "we're kicking out everyone of a non-British origin?" No. It says you will have the option to leave. Personally, I'd take the oppurtunity to exploit my Scandanavian roots and get out of this *beep* hole. Sounds like a policy I could go for.

3. The repeal of all equality and anti-discrimination legislation, including measures aimed at employing people with disabilities. - So if you have partial deafness in your left ear, you are on your own... Hmmm, this is a fair party. 

If people can do the job, why will any employer discriminate against them? This sounds like a good idea, as it would get rid of ludicrous situations like Royal Mail hiring a postman who can't read numbers.

4. Funding to encourage women (in every family) to stay home and raise children not yet of school age -

Again, a good policy. If more women remain at home, jobs are freed up, lowering unemployment. Also, the present state of the nation's chavvy children might be improved if they actually had a parent at home looking after them.

One person previously mentioned of Labours attempts to gain control over us, i'd rather have a Labour Police state than a BNP 1930's Nazi Germany policy state...

And Labour aren't going that way? A ban on guns, ID cards... aren't these good, solid Nazi concepts?

 

[nobody]

Yeah, and if that weren't the case, the hospitals would have to pay a decent wage, thus ensuring more British doctors would work in them, and maybe more British people

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Hospitals do pay a decent wage, doctors are paid well for what they do. As many british people as the university allow are doing medicine and for every person that does get to do it there are about 10 people who got rejected as there isnt the space on the courses

[doc_newstead]

I'd take the oppurtunity to exploit my Scandanavian roots

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You want an acidic soil, with plenty of gravel or sand. Water sparingly.

[Skarra]

Yeah, and if that weren't the case, the hospitals would have to pay a decent wage, thus ensuring more British doctors would work in them, and maybe more British people would go into medicine, helping with unemployment.

 

50% of all the extra money Labour has given the NHS has gone into pay. Furthermore, how high should wages go simply to encourage home grown doctors? I'm not saying they arn't worth it, i am saying if we can get value for money from a Polish doctor, why should an extra ammount be paid to a British doctor, with no extra output?

 

Note the "voluntary." Does it say "we're kicking out everyone of a non-British origin?" No. It says you will have the option to leave. Personally, I'd take the oppurtunity to exploit my Scandanavian roots and get out of this *beep* hole. Sounds like a policy I could go for.

 

So you really think the BNP would simply say, 'Excuse me Sir, would you like to go back?' And upon hearing the answer, 'No thanks, if i do that i'm dead' they would simple settle for that. The BNP are fundementaly violent, just look at the BNP higher-ups. Many have convictions for their violent actions...

Furthermore, Nick Griffin has used the term "secure a future for white children"... Does not the term SECURE seem to suggest they wont take 'no, i won't go' as an answer?

Plus, in previous years, the BNP was a massive supporter of supportive of the South African Apartheid system.

 

If people can do the job, why will any employer discriminate against them? This sounds like a good idea, as it would get rid of ludicrous situations like Royal Mail hiring a postman who can't read numbers.

 

The Disability Rights Commission believes that discrimination is not just not choosing a disabled person for a job, but mainly when:

- "a disabled person is treated less favourably than someone else"

- "the treatment is for a reason relating to the persons disability", and most importantly:

- "the treatment cannot be justified"

Of course, nobody advocates things such as, a bed ridden person being hired to operate a forklift truck, but instances where a person is not offered a job, not because their disability would stop them doing that job, but simple because they have a disability. I don't see a problem with legislation to stop that.

 

Again, a good policy. If more women remain at home, jobs are freed up, lowering unemployment. Also, the present state of the nation's chavvy children might be improved if they actually had a parent at home looking after them.

 

Valid point, but why would not the same incentives be offered for men to stay at home?

And the chav stuff, thats an ironic argument, considering many chav's parents are branded 'benefit scroungers' who just 'dos' at home all day.

 

And Labour aren't going that way? A ban on guns, ID cards... aren't these good, solid Nazi concepts?

 

lol, fair point, but Labour have yet to go as far in their influence as the BNP seem to want to go.

 

I apologise again for hijacking the thread a bit. If anybody would prefer us to stop, just say.

[Sledge]

The problem with the BNP is what they don't say. Quoting their policies is kind of a bad idea, because many of them will seem like (hell, probably are) a good idea. It's imperative to put the BNP down not because of their policies, but because they're racist scum.

 

And I would argue that Labour left unchecked will ultimately take a great many freedoms away, they're just doing it slowly so people don't complain. Kinda like boiling a lobster by dropping it in tepid water and turning the heat up slowly.

 

[Lance Jackass]

I don't feel like dying for this country anymore.

 

*Puts down bottle of bleach*

[Desolation mkII]

How many immigrant doctors and nurses helped you? A couple of years a go i had reconstructive surgery on my face, 9 of the 10 doctors i saw were of non-British origin.

 

I'm sorry but I have been to an NHS hospital 3 times in two years I was probably treated by 15-20 doctors and Nurses. One was black the rest were white. The black person was British (or could cover her accent exeptionaly well). This is in Leeds which has a very high immigrant population.

 

Or indeed I could turn your arguement on its head. You say that because 9/10 doctors that treated you were foreign they should be allowed to stay in well I could counter that I have been mugged three times. Every time it was a black person. Does this mean we should throw all black people out? Does it hell but that is what your arguement infers a policy along those lines through stereotyping.

 

 

Edit: I'm not accusing you of being a racist there I am just pointing out how racists use exactly the same arguement that you are using but replace the words 'doctors' and 'helped' with 'thugs' and 'mugged'.

[HaVoC]

I must say, despite being utter b*stards, the BNP are becoming more attractive by the minute.

 

An end to all this PC horsecrap is the main factor to me - under Labour, 'equality' has gone past, well, 'equality' and into 'treating minorities better'. Soon, white people (sorry!) will be in the minority, but then again, by this time the 'equality' policies will have gone so we'll (sorry!) just decline further.

 

When 'equality' programs are making minority groups 'more equal', what's the frickin' point? If you come into our country as an immigrant, make your own bloody way. Plenty of Mexicans manage it in the US, with no 'equality' programs to speak of there.

[Linzoy]

There are equality programs here. Affirmative action makes it so minorites can get jobs easier than equally qualified white people can in every state except california. By the way california still meets its minority quota even without affirmitive action. More minorities are also accepted into colleges. A lot of mexicans are also paid less than minimum wage, which is illegal but it makes it easier for them to get jobs because americans aren't willing to do the same work for the amount of money they're willing to do it for. A lot of mexicans don't even speak english. Once I asked for a bagel with butter and I got peanut butter, but the cashier called it walnut butter. Once I handed a guy at dunkin donuts money and he got really confused and starting talking with another employee about pesos. It took a few minutes for me to get my change. They would never hire an american who can't count.

 

In school I had to watch a video where a teacher preforms a creul experiment on her third grade class by telling them blue eyed kids are superior to brown eyed kids. She didn't tell the parents about this or anything. The blue eyed kids are allowed to be jerks to the brown eyes and are encouraged to think they're stupider and meaner. The worst part is all the kids in the class where brought back when they where adults to see the video of themselves having this experiment done on them and they seem really happy about it. They say it kept them from growing up to be a rasict. I never had any experiments preformed on me and I'm not rasict. Same thing with a lot of other people I know. Everyone else in the class liked the video too.

[nobody]

I must say, despite being utter b*stards, the BNP are becoming more attractive by the minute.

 

An end to all this PC horsecrap is the main factor to me - under Labour, 'equality' has gone past, well, 'equality' and into 'treating minorities better'. Soon, white people (sorry!) will be in the minority, but then again, by this time the 'equality' policies will have gone so we'll (sorry!) just decline further.

 

When 'equality' programs are making minority groups 'more equal', what's the frickin' point? If you come into our country as an immigrant, make your own bloody way. Plenty of Mexicans manage it in the US, with no 'equality' programs to speak of there.

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Soon white people will be in the minority? are you taking the ######? ethnic minorities make up about 9% of the population so there would have to be something apoclyptic to make the white population go below 50%

 

As for mexicans making it in the US some of them make it yes, but alot of them have trouble progressing up the social ladder and live in poverty. Im also pretty sure the US does have policies against racial discrimination so i dont know why you think there are no equality programs.

 

Stop reading red tops

[Thechom]

Right then, time for me to wade in with my hotch-potch of beliefs from all sorts of very bad sources.

 

1) The medical situation. The nursing/ doctor schools may indeed be full, however a good third of students drop out in the first year. This cost the NHS, and thus you and me, billions of pounds a year. Money that has to be found from our taxes.

 

2) Proper family units. My mum works in a school, she says all the kids with learning difficulties come from broken homes. Its not hard to see the correllation there, and this is a trickle effect. The next generation will then do exactly the same thing, and so in about 10 years, the country may very well have the least capable population in the world.

 

3)Immigration. Vast numbers of immigrants come over to this country, to specifically rape the benefits system, and until it is sorted out, and you can get nearly as much money from benefits as from working, they wont stop. Then there is the way they refuse to even try to integrate, most folk, when moving to a foreign country will attempt to become part of the community. However, there are parts of towns and cities where you can go and be the only white man there, the term ghetto springs to mind.

 

4) Political correctness. This is a very important point We're not all the same, we shouldn't be treated as such. A fine example is the dyslexic postman, if you cannot read numbers, how are you meant to even start posting letters. And thats not being anti-disabilities, you are not capable of doing a job. Its just the way the wooly-thinking of this government has infected the rest of the nation.

 

We need either a proper socialist government, one that has the stones to say, "We know whats best, you don't have a say" or a real democracy, one that actually listens to people, and does what they want.

 

Thanks for listening to my rant, and if you think this is bad, you should hear me when I'm drinking!

 

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