Hauk Posted April 2, 2007 Report Share Posted April 2, 2007 Anyone fancy throwing some input on my little price list? Cheers, Hauk Quote Link to post Share on other sites
alpha54 Posted April 2, 2007 Report Share Posted April 2, 2007 Its a thing of personal preference really - your list looks nice, but I'd personally prefer a retractable stock and an ACOG or red dot... Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Hauk Posted April 2, 2007 Report Share Posted April 2, 2007 Hmm. I was going to go for the Hurricane retractable stock, but then I decided I liked the look of a designated marksman rifle. Any thoughts on the internals, as opposed to the externals Cheers, Hauk Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Headhunter3 Posted April 2, 2007 Report Share Posted April 2, 2007 personally i think the stock and scope look funky on the HK. but if you like it thats all that matters. internals are good. the switch assembly is going to be the most important part to get. if youve got the money i would think about the systema magnum motor. insane ROF. list looks good though Quote Link to post Share on other sites
HKG36 Posted April 2, 2007 Report Share Posted April 2, 2007 Alright guys I'am looking a new stock and I saw the King Arms Crane stock on airsoftgi but it doesn't include the buffer tube so I want to know will the stock fit on the VFC buffer tube?Please note this not where my battery is going. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
AirRage Posted April 2, 2007 Report Share Posted April 2, 2007 (edited) Alright guys I'am looking a new stock and I saw the King Arms Crane stock on airsoftgi but it doesn't include the buffer tube so I want to know will the stock fit on the VFC buffer tube?Please note this not where my battery is going. <{POST_SNAPBACK}> I used the Star Crane stock on the stock buffer tube and fit absolutely perfect! Nice and snug, no wobble and moves smoothly from notch to notch. Only thing my battery is too big to fit down stock buffer tube but thats fine by me since i like it fully retracted and nice big fat 9.6v 3300 Mah battery in it. Edited April 2, 2007 by AirRage Quote Link to post Share on other sites
pingpong Posted April 2, 2007 Author Report Share Posted April 2, 2007 It was strange - when I removed my switch, I saw tell-tale signs that someone had attempted to file it down to be a better fit - just like had been discussed as a possible fix earlier in this thread. <{POST_SNAPBACK}> i have to agree well.. most of it. no the gun wasnt returned so that the switch assembly can fit. i believe all VFC came like that. if you go back to the first page i mentioned that the black block looked like poop.. also i was basicly one of the first people to get the gun so i dont think anyone would return a nice hk416 under a day... so yea. VFC took the super short cut on that one i guess. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
n00bTard Posted April 3, 2007 Report Share Posted April 3, 2007 Yeah, it was clearly filed - almost like they knew about the problem, and tried to fix it by filing the switch block down. It uh.. yeah.. obviously didn't work. My faith in VFC is shaken, as everything else about the gun is soooooo nice, but because of a 50 cent piece of plastic being too big, the whole thing was made unuseable out of the box, making us sink $15+ on a new switch and making us open up the gearbox. However, its just so beautiful and nice to hold, that I just can't stay mad at her for very long Quote Link to post Share on other sites
-[K!LLA]- Posted April 3, 2007 Report Share Posted April 3, 2007 Ah, its alright mang. I wanted the LEstock on. thanks though <{POST_SNAPBACK}> Actually, I decided to keep the VFC HK416 anyways...I just don't think I can let it go...Thanks for the reply though Quote Link to post Share on other sites
alpha54 Posted April 3, 2007 Report Share Posted April 3, 2007 Hmm. I was going to go for the Hurricane retractable stock, but then I decided I liked the look of a designated marksman rifle. Any thoughts on the internals, as opposed to the externals Cheers, Hauk The Hurricane stock is the HK417 stock, which is for a DMR. If I wanted a HK416/417-type DMR, which I sorta do , I'd do the following: Replace the solid stock you suggested with a Hurricane HK417 stock Keep the scope you had listed, looks good to me Instead of the G&P scope rings, get quick-detach scope rings so that you can quickly dismount the scope for CQB-type situations Look into getting a 16-inch steel outer barrel - the DX kit comes with 10-inch and 14.5-inch outer barrels, but for that awesome DMR look you really need a 16-inch one Get a Magpul enhanced trigger guard - its such a small, no-nonsense item but it really makes the trigger easier to operate when wearing gloves Internally, the Systema low-resistance switch assembly is really the most important bit - with that, the gun will work great. The standard VFC hop-up bucking is also kinda ######, so I'd definitely get a Prometheus or Guarder hop bucking as well (I got a Guarder, but only because Prometheus were out of stock). I've got a number of internal upgrades in my gun to make it even better (I've told you these before but w/e, doesn't hurt to list em again), which are: Prometheus AEG Spring MS120 Systema Silicone Piston Head with Bearing (ZS-04-32) Prometheus Spring Guide with Bearing V2 G&P High Pressure Polyacetal Piston Prometheus 6.03mm Tightbore Barrel The Prometheus spring boosts the gun's power quite a bit over forum limits, but of course you wouldn't need it if you are not looking to up the power of your gun. I'm guessing the rest of the parts gave me about a 15 FPS or so extra increase, and as you are building a DMR, I'd definitely recommend you to get a Prometheus tightbore barrel - they're great, and the difference in accurate is very noticable. Hope that helps mate, can't wait to see you at Berget next year with that rifle! Quote Link to post Share on other sites
alpha54 Posted April 3, 2007 Report Share Posted April 3, 2007 Ok, so I just got my Magpul MIAD grip and its great, except for that fact that now I've installed it, my gun does not work anymore. When I pull the trigger, I get this horrible metal-on-metal sound, as if the motor is grinding against something. Any ideas? Quote Link to post Share on other sites
HKG36 Posted April 3, 2007 Report Share Posted April 3, 2007 The motor height might need to be adjusted. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Benson Posted April 5, 2007 Report Share Posted April 5, 2007 I'm planning on getting a 1pt sling for my new 416, and I was wondering if this sling mount will work with the stock retractable...stock. http://www.uncompany.com/pageproductdetails.asp?prodid=9657 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
alpha54 Posted April 5, 2007 Report Share Posted April 5, 2007 The motor height might need to be adjusted. <{POST_SNAPBACK}> Well, I've not put my old grip back on and I still get that horrible screeching noise, sounds like gears grinding against each other. Gotta open up the gear box, but I'm starting to suspect I may have stripped my gears... Quote Link to post Share on other sites
ezgil Posted April 5, 2007 Report Share Posted April 5, 2007 if it's a high pitched WRYYYYYYYY (yes THE WORLD-ish sound) then you're motor is most likely too low and not touching the gears or your gears have stripped, but this usually takes a while to happen. So, as the other guy mentioned, adjust your motor height. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
alpha54 Posted April 5, 2007 Report Share Posted April 5, 2007 Its not high pitched as if the motor isnt reaching, its more of a low pitch sound as if the gears are grinding against each other. Im opening my gun up now so we'll shortly see. Ill let you know Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Benj CH Posted April 6, 2007 Report Share Posted April 6, 2007 I dont know if the question was answered before but is it possible to install a normal Ver. 2 GB and if so would the bolt lock still work? Is it possible to change the outer barrel and still use the Ras? I ask this because I want to make a HK 416 with 6.8 SPC (installing the VFC conversion kit (expect the flip up)) Regards Benj Quote Link to post Share on other sites
dliberty Posted April 9, 2007 Report Share Posted April 9, 2007 well after reading 14 pages of this discussion im skeptical to say the least about buying this gun. the gun reminds me a a nicely wraped gift box with not much inside. yes some things inside are nice but the crucial parts arnt working. another thing that draws me off the gu is that peq batery. to fix these 2 problems i would take my gearbox from my broken china clone m4 and use the poly carb piston from the 416 put my old CA gears in it and do a nice job shimming and lubbing. that should eliminate their shity trigger assembly problem....i think, as long as it fits ofcourse for the batery i would get a full stock and put the battery inside, im not sure how well thatl go either. like i said im skeptical...450$ and a list of odd work to do on the gun when i havnt even got it yet. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Homewrecker Posted April 10, 2007 Report Share Posted April 10, 2007 I've got a switch & selector plate from an ICS ver 2 MP5 mechbox lying around. Anyone have any idea if this will fit and solve the problem or am I relegated to having to buy a Systema Switch & Selector Plate assy. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
pingpong Posted April 10, 2007 Author Report Share Posted April 10, 2007 I'm planning on getting a 1pt sling for my new 416, and I was wondering if this sling mount will work with the stock retractable...stock. http://www.uncompany.com/pageproductdetails.asp?prodid=9657 <{POST_SNAPBACK}> i got a 1 point lsing on mine. im using a 1 poing Bungee from G&P.. its perdy nice. easy to use. but i still like the 3 point feel because u can swing it on your back while climbing trees and stuff. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Angus_ITA Posted April 12, 2007 Report Share Posted April 12, 2007 (edited) Hi There!! I'm a new member of the forum. I'would like to suggest a solution to the full-auto problem on the VFC 416... I solve the problem by change the original cut off with a Marui (or Guarder)... Look at the pics... On the left there is the VFC original Cut-off - On the right there is the Marui... for the battery, I use Intellect 2000@9,6... feets good in the an-peq and it's fantastic... Edited April 12, 2007 by Angus_ITA Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Ilupis Posted April 12, 2007 Report Share Posted April 12, 2007 When I installed my systema switch assembly, I noticed that the VFC cut-off lever indeed differs from the rest. This however, appeared as a malfunction of the semi-auto but not as the jamming on full auto. The head on the VFC cut-off lever just wasn't long enough to catch the plastic balk inside the switch assembly, thus causing the gun to fire full auto only. I replaced mine with systema and the semi-auto now works great. I dont see why changing the cut-off lever only wouldn't work, especially if it works for you. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
pingpong Posted April 12, 2007 Author Report Share Posted April 12, 2007 hmm. maybe thats why my i can shoot full auto, burst and semi on my semi auto mode.. hah.. maybe i should fix it.. but a temp fix is.. well when your on semi and you want to shoot 1 bb at a time just pull the trigger hard. if u want to shoot a burst.. just have a steady trigger pull and at the end squeeze hard to stop the gun from shooting. and so on. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
n00bTard Posted April 12, 2007 Report Share Posted April 12, 2007 Holy ######, you guys are right - my semi-auto shoots full auto. I didn't even notice until just the other day. So, I log on here, and sure enough, here's a fix. I'm going to order up a new cutoff lever right away. Thanks again guys. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Zune Posted April 13, 2007 Report Share Posted April 13, 2007 If i understand correctly replacing the cut-off lever solves the sticky trigger problem and there is no need for Systema switch assembly? Cheers! Zune Quote Link to post Share on other sites
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