Habakure Posted April 8, 2014 Report Share Posted April 8, 2014 I wanna know when is G&P releasing that torch grip for the TM M870. Not to fussed about the new stock, but if it works better than the Marui stock then I'd be tempted. Link to post Share on other sites
Trap Posted May 1, 2014 Report Share Posted May 1, 2014 Angry Gun are going for a simpler design. https://www.facebook.com/pages/AngryGun/284616511579592?ref=ts&fref=ts Link to post Share on other sites
bankz5152 Posted May 1, 2014 Report Share Posted May 1, 2014 The Angry Gun version looks better imo. Link to post Share on other sites
PureSilver Posted May 1, 2014 Report Share Posted May 1, 2014 Hah, now Blobface is going to be p***ed off. The Angry Gun one resolves my major issue with the G&P (being hideous); that's much better. [EDIT]It also resolves another thing I don't like about the G&P - the 'catridge' system. If you look at this photo carefully, you can see a fill port ahead of the buffer tube's foremost position cavity: So you just fill the buffer tube. Much, much cleverer than the overly-complicated and leaky-looking G&P.[EDIT] Link to post Share on other sites
Trap Posted May 1, 2014 Report Share Posted May 1, 2014 Looks like it will probably hold more gas to, as the buffer tube wall should be thinner than G&Ps gas tube in buffer tube system. Link to post Share on other sites
Habakure Posted May 1, 2014 Report Share Posted May 1, 2014 Maybe G&P really liked the idea of a tube in a tube, type tube. This does look less fiddely but time will tell which is better. Link to post Share on other sites
DeltaZero Posted May 1, 2014 Report Share Posted May 1, 2014 My trouble with the Angry Gun version over the G&P is the stock alignment to the barrel and sights.. I think it'll be hard to shoulder and rest your cheek whilst looking down the sights properly. Granted it looks slightly better but I'm not 100% about it. Will probably pick one up to have a look! Link to post Share on other sites
sacairsoftsn00py Posted May 1, 2014 Report Share Posted May 1, 2014 I wonder if these designs allow for efficient gas utilization (I.e. no cloud of gas every shot) Sent from my SGH-M919 using Tapatalk Link to post Share on other sites
Philbucknall Posted May 1, 2014 Report Share Posted May 1, 2014 I like the angry gun one too and I want a torch grip that'll fit also! On that note - are there any out there that will fit already? Link to post Share on other sites
DeltaZero Posted May 1, 2014 Report Share Posted May 1, 2014 I've heard the torch grip for a G&P will fit but takes a lot of modification! Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk 2 Link to post Share on other sites
Philbucknall Posted May 1, 2014 Report Share Posted May 1, 2014 Oh, I'll wait then I think. I don't mind some mods but a lot isn't what I need ATM. Link to post Share on other sites
TheFull9 Posted May 1, 2014 Author Report Share Posted May 1, 2014 If RS MOE forends fit with some mods, those same mods should work on other RS lighted systems, right? Link to post Share on other sites
DeltaZero Posted May 1, 2014 Report Share Posted May 1, 2014 Yeah that's very true! I don't know how extensive the mods to RS were mind you! Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk 2 Link to post Share on other sites
FTZ-WildeCard Posted May 1, 2014 Report Share Posted May 1, 2014 Angry Gun or G&P.. more choice is never a bad thing. I actually prefer the G&P look for the way it aligns of the rest of the body. No idea about which one is better gas wise.. I guess ultimately that is what I value more! Time will tell... Link to post Share on other sites
Habakure Posted May 1, 2014 Report Share Posted May 1, 2014 Regarding the grip. In Spetznazdave's review he talks about how the Marui grip's dimensions are off. It's on YouTube. I think he mentions it in this vid:- There are two parts to the review (the second is a kind of report of modifications and skirmish results). Link to post Share on other sites
chas Posted May 26, 2014 Report Share Posted May 26, 2014 Coming soon - http://www.wgcshop.com/wgc2008/main/product_detail1.php?item=GP-ACC-MSP010 244$ Im sorry, but thats not worth it. Sub 100$ would have been fair and I would have paid 150$, but this? I have no doubt whatever chinese company is making the Marui 870 clone will make a whole gun with this as a default for less than just the kit. Link to post Share on other sites
DeltaZero Posted May 26, 2014 Report Share Posted May 26, 2014 Bloody hell! That's outrageous! Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk 2 Link to post Share on other sites
blablabla Posted May 26, 2014 Report Share Posted May 26, 2014 In all honesty I don't think it's that overpriced... Or maybe I'm missing something... ? Seems a lot of machining work went into it, the furniture that comes with it, design of the tank, seals,.... and all the rest... Seen a lot more stuff way way more overpriced... Seem pricey at first sight... But after giving it some thought... Seems not so bad... Link to post Share on other sites
PureSilver Posted May 26, 2014 Report Share Posted May 26, 2014 Yeah, like blablabla says, it's expensive, but then it's a pretty expensive-looking item. That central block looks to have been machined from billet, not cast; it has those cylinder 'magazines' and it comes with all the furniture. If you don't like the price, the Angry Gun one is substantially cheaper. Link to post Share on other sites
Norotor Posted May 26, 2014 Report Share Posted May 26, 2014 Maybe for that price it will come with an extra cylindrical gas reservoir. Link to post Share on other sites
Habakure Posted May 26, 2014 Report Share Posted May 26, 2014 I must be having a a acid flash back, but that price hasn't put me off. Unless it doesn't work then am out. Link to post Share on other sites
TheFull9 Posted May 26, 2014 Author Report Share Posted May 26, 2014 Proprietary, niche-appeal, low-production-volume new airsoft product turns out to cost more than $100.. gotta be honest, I do not find that surprising in the slightest bit. For some reason I had it in my mind that Angry Gun were quite a high level brand, whereas G&P are very middle of the road/average. Are there any more details on the AG version out there because all I've seen is one small picture so far? Maybe I'm just being dense again... Link to post Share on other sites
Wingmann Posted May 26, 2014 Report Share Posted May 26, 2014 100 quid vs. $244 and taking into account that the AG product doesn't come with grip or stock... Pretty much the same thing. Link to post Share on other sites
chas Posted May 27, 2014 Report Share Posted May 27, 2014 144$ for a stock and a grip? Not even by G&P. I just realized the version WGC is showing doesnt have a top rail. Can we expext anothet 30$ for that? Link to post Share on other sites
Habakure Posted May 27, 2014 Report Share Posted May 27, 2014 I think people meant £100 for the angry gun version, which is about $160. So that would lave $84 for a stock and grip (plus postage and import duty), so yeah, the price isn't that much different. Regarding the rail; have G&P said that their stock adaptor, once installed, mean you'll require a new rail (on the Tokyo Marui M870)? Link to post Share on other sites
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