KTcerberus Posted December 28, 2008 Report Share Posted December 28, 2008 Daytonagun has posted 2 videos of his upcoming M249 GBB drop in kit on you tube. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VLSX8CJ9TPE http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Yss6_ofsM0c Link to post Share on other sites
thatoneguy92088 Posted December 28, 2008 Report Share Posted December 28, 2008 Daytonagun has posted 2 videos of his upcoming M249 GBB drop in kit on you tube. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VLSX8CJ9TPE http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Yss6_ofsM0c Looks cool. Price will probably be very high and I hate external gas systems. I'll pass. Link to post Share on other sites
vbtb110 Posted December 28, 2008 Report Share Posted December 28, 2008 Only 6 months late to the GBB game Link to post Share on other sites
Billy Bob the Sniper Posted December 28, 2008 Report Share Posted December 28, 2008 ^ yeah but this will actually be good. Link to post Share on other sites
frogfish Posted December 28, 2008 Report Share Posted December 28, 2008 Only 6 months late to the GBB game Hahaha if only you knew Daytonagun. He's been the go-to guy for classics and Escort based systems since Escort dropped the ball, so in reality those WEs, WAs, and GHKs are quite a few years late in the GBB game. His work is beyond amazing and if you are willing to pay for it, it would last a beating and still preform in a manner that AEGs and other GBB systems could only dream of. Link to post Share on other sites
Gravy Fist Posted December 28, 2008 Report Share Posted December 28, 2008 Looks cool. Price will probably be very high and I hate external gas systems. I'll pass. $499 for drop in kit according to his post on CA.net. Not bad considering you can get a AnK for $250. $750 is what a CA saw used to cost anyway, and is still cheaper than a TOP or Ashai. Owning an AnK and having played around with a CA a bit I can tell you bodywise the AnK is just as good as the CA. Link to post Share on other sites
ertgunner Posted December 28, 2008 Report Share Posted December 28, 2008 humm its extremely nice , ... kinda especially the fact that the system will fit in a the m60 Link to post Share on other sites
RedScare Posted December 28, 2008 Report Share Posted December 28, 2008 hopefully the MG42 thats coming out uses a M249 gearbox.... Link to post Share on other sites
lin_pointer Posted December 28, 2008 Report Share Posted December 28, 2008 this looks like legit product< daytona should really start a company making these more affordable and available Link to post Share on other sites
Captain Darling Posted December 28, 2008 Report Share Posted December 28, 2008 Daytonagun has posted 2 videos of his upcoming M249 GBB drop in kit on you tube. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VLSX8CJ9TPE http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Yss6_ofsM0c Wow, looks interesting. Tedious, old school remote gas tank though? And the ROF looks to have gone south as well, which I suppose is OK as it makes it a little more realistic. Link to post Share on other sites
Xeno-Morpheus Posted December 28, 2008 Report Share Posted December 28, 2008 Seems very very cool and at a affordable price. Would be nice if it was possible to store the gastank in the stock... I would like to see more stand alone gas-gearboxes with the same change-on-the-spot type functionality. Very very cool indeed. Link to post Share on other sites
evansy Posted December 28, 2008 Report Share Posted December 28, 2008 Very nice but with the gas hose coming out of the back it looks to be a no go for para users. Link to post Share on other sites
Pulng Posted December 28, 2008 Report Share Posted December 28, 2008 That is one very cool 249. Oh man, when is someone going to make a GBB G36?!? Link to post Share on other sites
Hillslam Posted December 28, 2008 Report Share Posted December 28, 2008 $499 for drop in kit according to his post on CA.net. Not bad considering you can get a AnK for $250.Exctly what I was thinking. Owning an AnK and having played around with a CA a bit I can tell you bodywise the AnK is just as good as the CA.Actually no they're not. The AnK/Echo1 are significantly weaker. Still they're light and good enough. Link to post Share on other sites
Korppi Posted December 28, 2008 Report Share Posted December 28, 2008 Very nice but with the gas hose coming out of the back it looks to be a no go for para users. There is some space in the para stock top corners to cut a hole. As for using internal gas in stock; it's possible but the mk2 stock is a bit small for a regulator and tank combo also the shot count would probably be below 0.8-1K or less. One can of course build a more potent paintball style tank stock if no hose is a must.. And there is a topic already in the next page.. Link to post Share on other sites
frogfish Posted December 28, 2008 Report Share Posted December 28, 2008 In all honesty an external rig is no more difficult than a sling, yes you will have to learn to use one but it's very simple. In my personal opinion an external gas system far exceeds an internal system, 12 and 20oz CO2 bottles are cheap, they fit well in a GP pouch, and a gas hog like this needs more gas than an internal system can deliver. Efficiency is hard to get when you want something to slam into your shoulder. ROF has always been slower than AEGs in Escort like systems, it's because the travel of the piston is weighted and generates REAL recoil, not simulated. Look at the Escort M60 videos on youtube you'll see. If you want a GBB G36 or any other weapon Daytonagun makes customs, just ask. Also I would not buy an escort driven MG42 save your money and get your hands on a Shoie you'll be much happier. Link to post Share on other sites
my_plague_666 Posted December 28, 2008 Report Share Posted December 28, 2008 Wow, looks interesting. Tedious, old school remote gas tank though? And the ROF looks to have gone south as well, which I suppose is OK as it makes it a little more realistic. ROF would be variable depending on the return spring installed, these are custom made so if you wanted a higher ROF justin could probably sort that out. Link to post Share on other sites
kken Posted December 28, 2008 Report Share Posted December 28, 2008 you could probably route the gas tube thru the trigger handle as well. with an external gas rig and quick disconnect hose system, you don't even notice the external rig. guys these days wear so much gear with so many pouches that an additional 4 lbs on your back is not going to make a difference. the whole point of this drop in system is to readily replace your gear box for a gas blowback, continue using your existing box mags/magazines AND use readily available paintball gas systems out there instead of customized tanks and gas systems of questionable reliability. i don't disagree that there are some drawbacks to a gas system but the maintenance is LEAGUES easier than an AEG. Link to post Share on other sites
TwinTurboCH Posted December 28, 2008 Report Share Posted December 28, 2008 Gotta get me one of these Discounts on multiple purchases, anyone want to team up to save money? Link to post Share on other sites
SGCDude Posted December 28, 2008 Report Share Posted December 28, 2008 Another vote of confidence here for Daytona... The stuff I've had him make for my Sun Prject GBB has been higher quality than any other airsoft stuff I've ever laid eyes on. Link to post Share on other sites
thatoneguy92088 Posted December 28, 2008 Report Share Posted December 28, 2008 you could probably route the gas tube thru the trigger handle as well. with an external gas rig and quick disconnect hose system, you don't even notice the external rig. guys these days wear so much gear with so many pouches that an additional 4 lbs on your back is not going to make a difference. the whole point of this drop in system is to readily replace your gear box for a gas blowback, continue using your existing box mags/magazines AND use readily available paintball gas systems out there instead of customized tanks and gas systems of questionable reliability. i don't disagree that there are some drawbacks to a gas system but the maintenance is LEAGUES easier than an AEG. In the end you're just trading one realism for another. Either you have a big hose coming out and a little movement back and forth or no hose and no movement. Either way they sound nothing like a real gun so it's a lose on both of those. Electricity is much easier to get than gas so that is another hassle. Add in the price tag and only some hardcore gas users are going to want this, which is just to who he's marketing to. How is a gas gun have less maintenance than an AEG? I don;t really have an maintenance on my AEG. AEGs have been top dog for over 10 years for a reason. Link to post Share on other sites
my_plague_666 Posted December 28, 2008 Report Share Posted December 28, 2008 he said it's easier. classics dont have too many moving parts to worry about. maintaining a classic is far easier than opening a mechbox and fiddling around with all the little springs etc. it sounds a lot more like real gun than the sewing machine-esque AEGs and they have quite a kick to them. the hoses are very unobtrusive too. Link to post Share on other sites
D.O.C. Posted December 28, 2008 Report Share Posted December 28, 2008 Looks cool. Price will probably be very high and I hate external gas systems. I'll pass. Very nice but with the gas hose coming out of the back it looks to be a no go for para users. ...In the end you're just trading one realism for another. Either you have a big hose coming out and a little movement back and forth or no hose and no movement. Either way they sound nothing like a real gun so it's a lose on both of those. ...ever shoot, heared or felt a Escort driven, externaly powered GBB gun? I guess not... It´s really funny to see, how the hose etc. starts to get "invisible" for all surrounding persons, once I pull the trigger on my INO/ESC Mk43 since people ALWAYS start to complain about it first when I bring my beast to a game. First, they see the ext. hose and say somthing like: "Nice M60 but that hose... pahh, nothing for me." and then, after a few shoots down the range, they can´t believe it and forgett all their prejudices... everytime the same D.O.C. Link to post Share on other sites
thatoneguy92088 Posted December 28, 2008 Report Share Posted December 28, 2008 ...ever shoot, heared or felt a Escort driven, externaly powered GBB gun? I guess not... It´s really funny to see, how the hose etc. starts to get "invisible" for all surrounding persons, once I pull the trigger on my INO/ESC Mk43 since people ALWAYS start to complain about it first when I bring my beast to a game. First, they see the ext. hose and say somthing like: "Nice M60 but that hose... pahh, nothing for me." and then, after a few shoots down the range, they can´t believe it and forgett all their prejudices... everytime the same D.O.C. Why are people complaining about your gun? I wouldn't care if someones gun shakes while they shoot unless they are pushing out tons of FPS. I have seen an escort m60 in person it was cool, but not worth it for me. As I said the hardcore gas loves will gobble this up. I on the other hand prefer AEGs. Link to post Share on other sites
frogfish Posted December 28, 2008 Report Share Posted December 28, 2008 Also I would not buy an escort driven MG42 save your money and get your hands on a Shoie you'll be much happier. Sorry about that meant drop in mechbox, not Escort. Link to post Share on other sites
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