Mobius Strip

I got mine from Boomarms in HK about 2 years ago.

I typed that really early this morning and it is a touch lacking in detail, please allow me to elaborate: I am pretty sure that the 17L kit was set up with the G34 as a donor (102mm inner barrel with a reduced diameter at the end). Boomarms currently just say G17 series. If you want to take advantage of the 17L length outer barrel and put a longer length inner in then you need more clearance otherwise it will bind slightly part way along the inner preventing the outer from dropping properly. From the chamber end if you want to fit a longer inner, then for my example which is around 115mm you ultimately need to go 10mm deeper with a 10mm diameter drill (I went 9, 9.5, 10). This will allow the longer inner barrel to be fitted without the risk of the inside of the outer barrel binding on it as it tilts during cycling. It is still stabilized it at the muzzle end of the inner as you do not drill down anywhere near that far. My inner is around 115mm so there is still more room for a longer one but you may need to mod the outer more to accomodate it. I think that length was fitted due to availability. I have found no issues with the weight causing a problem with the frame but then all my Glocks have Guarder frames if that is what you meant? If you meant the inner, then no issue there either. I have found both the Gen 3 and later Gen 2 style frames to be very strong. I did also fit a Guns Modify lightweight blowback housing to mine to reduce mass.

Yes, I bought one. Very nicely made but the outer barrel needs to be opened up inside very slightly if you want to fit a longer inner barrel. 10mm diameter and 10mm more depth will do it I also put in a Guns Modify lightweight blowback chamber to bring the moving mass weight back down a touch.

I will be honest, it has been a long time since I owned the TM version. The Creation kit had an absolutely fantastic finish and it was CNC which explained the price. The externals of that kit were better finished than WE (not that I class the WE as bad). As RC says above, the extra travel definitely makes a difference and despite the odd example of broken ones turning up, I chose this over TM. I had considered the Robin Hood Tactical DE kit for TM but chose WE instead. When I spoke to KY about the silver version and asked which they offered, (on the Armorer Works website they still showed both types), they told me that they only now offer the painted one as it was more durable. "Refer to your questions: Silver ,we do not stock chrome : the coating not last long as the silver one." When my order arrived I am pretty sure it was plated as I saw what I think was traces of a flash copper plating inside which would be used as a base to chrome!? It was sold as the silver Cerakote fitted that need. I have seen pics of a plated one for sale where it appeared the plating was chipped where the front of the slide meets the barrel but I cannot be 100%. For me black is the classic but I do have a fondness for silver too. The coating on the factory black one seemed more uniform than the silver. I certainly was not disappointed at all with my purchase(s).

No, they have been fine so far using RWA green gas. I did try Guarder Black gas initially but the FPS was a touch high.

Desert Eagle. I think the release of their Desert Eagle re-peaked my interest in WE. Before this I had also owned TM Desert Eagles with Creation and Guarder kits. The full length travel of the WE version pushed me into purchasing. Out of the box it is not a bad performer but I knew it could be better. Internals: Aside from a strip and lube with minor tweaks, I replaced the HOP rubber with TM and the inner barrel with a 6.02mm tightbore. This has given me more range than the standard set up. I also cut the recoil springs down to make it less sluggish and improve efficiency (I am using green gas). Externals: On occasion, I felt minor straightening of some lines was necessary (I am super fussy and was getting them Cerakoted anyway). Initially I wasn't that keen on the matt black finish as it almost made the markings look feint but with a wipe and buff using Superlube oil it looks much better in my opinion. I do still have one with a standard black finish. The fit and finish is generally good. Tolerances are fine and on the whole the design seems sound. Better materials and quality control is always preferable but that comes at a price. Yes, sure; it is an impractical, big old clunker and the same can be done in a smaller, more efficient package but I just don't care because I like them. How much? 🤣

Hey, no worries. The WA imports I was talking about were personal ones, admittedly given the quantity and frequency you could be forgiven for thinking I was a business 😹 Any other WA questions, just shout.

Hi, no problem and happy to help. I am absolutely positive about the material. Also it says that the slide and frame are made from HW resin in the description. Why do you think it is all metal? Western Arms currently have a MKIV Series 70 they called real steel finish in their line up and that is resin! WA guns costs shot up in the last few years and the last ones I imported were around the $500 mark. Definitely resin slides and frames as they were promptly swapped out I think that you are getting muddled between two brands. WA is Western Arms and WE is Wei Tech. Wei Tech guns will be all metal. The metal Western Arms guns you see are most likely are ones with aftermarket metal slides and frames. I got the page by doing a cached search of that page.

Very nice to see interest in Western Arms. WA do some very nice finishes but this beauty is not all metal. The slide and frame are plastic/resin. I have bought many Western Arms but currently have no idea where to get them new other than Yahoo Auctions via a proxy bidding service or friendly shops in Japan like the one you listed. You could try Impulse101. Best of luck 👍🏻

Great investigation work and thank you for taking the time to write it up. Many years ago I took the HOP unit and complete Blowback unit from an early KJ P14 Para Ordnance (the TM/WA Hybrid type) and put them in a friends WA Magna Para Ord. It needed this whole set up to work in that the KJ nozzle needed to mate with the KJ HOP chamber. It certainly gave more range than the standard Magna HOP set up but power was down a little due I guess to the different floating valve arrangement. I did repeat it once again but it was so long ago I cannot remember any specific mods, probably as they were so minor (if any).

SIG P226 two tone PGC/Pro Win metal kit, slide refinished. Shooters Design stainless take down lever Guarder chrome slide release and slide catch, blasted satin to match take down lever. Real SIG early grips. Guarder steel guide rod. Guarder nozzle and valve blocker. Nine ball 6.03mm barrel RCC hammer and recoil springs.

Beretta 92FS Inox with walnut grips Nova Beretta 92FS Inox kit Marui M9A1 donor Beretta walnut grips. 4 Nova kits, from left to right: 92FS Inox with Walnut grips 92FS with US markings 92FS Inox with Farrar rubber grips M9 with refinished Resident Evil grips

Harrington & Richardson T223 (early HK33) as used by SEALs on a limited basis in Vietnam. Classic Army CA33 base gun.

Ah, most interesting. I had my eye on a similar two tone kit under the PGC banner on RW simply for the slide (as it was for the pre E2 guns). Having just checked, the kit I was watching is now sold out and this Pro-Win branded (same folks of course) new kit is in, and as you say a weird combo Elite slide and no beavertail? I suppose anything is possible in a custom gun Curious that it is built for the pre E2 series 226R when I was under the impression they were currently just doing kits for the E2 types. Mind you it shouldn't take *too* much effort to adjust it/part swap to suit. Thank you again for the find Squad, it's being considered