FarEast Posted August 16, 2007 Report Share Posted August 16, 2007 ICS has sent us some exclusive images of the soon to be released ICS AK74-M and AK74-S which we covered on the news section back in March 2007. It looks like these will be available to customers either at the end of August to Mid-Septemer. Right now we don;t have any pricing or other features of the gun, but as the saying goes " A picture is worth a thousand words!" First off the ICS AK74-M Link to post Share on other sites
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FarEast Posted August 16, 2007 Author Report Share Posted August 16, 2007 And now for the ICS AK74-S Link to post Share on other sites
DarkLite Posted August 16, 2007 Report Share Posted August 16, 2007 I'd be more excited if the last two ICS AKs I had to work on weren't such utter bastards - and the cool bolt was really the only thing I really liked about the ICS design. So these don't really strike my fancy - plus I'd be willing to bet that they're still using that silly "plastic reciever with a 1mm thick covering of metal" thing. Still, if they've sorted the horrid shimming and piston/pistonhead/cylinderhead/nozzle/wiring quality issues, it might be worth a look. Link to post Share on other sites
Pariah_WP Posted August 16, 2007 Report Share Posted August 16, 2007 I want...daddy like... Link to post Share on other sites
tangman Posted August 16, 2007 Report Share Posted August 16, 2007 Hope theyre released when I go to airsoft alley ..... Now to decide which brand of Krinkov to get Link to post Share on other sites
Bob_Marley Posted August 16, 2007 Report Share Posted August 16, 2007 Hmmm... Was hoping for a proper AKS-74 rather than AKS-74U when I read AK74-S (that'll teach me to not visit the site for long periods, heh), but it still looks pretty cool. So do most of those AK-74-Ms. They definetly seem tempting. Link to post Share on other sites
Fin Posted August 16, 2007 Report Share Posted August 16, 2007 I'm quite happy with what I'm seeing a proper 74m (that actually has the folding stock) and as for the....74s i'd be happy with it after burning that wood, it looks terrible. Also have they put the battery connector in the worst possible place imaginable? Why put it there out of every where? Finally BURN THE RIS, BURN THE RIS! Link to post Share on other sites
Grumman Posted August 16, 2007 Report Share Posted August 16, 2007 That AK 74-S...mmmmm. Not sure if this is the place to ask but is there any chance of making one using parts already available? Is the gun already on the market under a different manufacturer? I've really started liking the gun since watching Goldeneye the other day Link to post Share on other sites
neoptolemus Posted August 16, 2007 Report Share Posted August 16, 2007 Hopefully the AK-74M parts will be available in kit form. I have sent many emails to ICS regarding their abandonment of the AK crowd and they have suggested that kits for their original "AK-74M" might become available... Link to post Share on other sites
Ibnghanzi Posted August 16, 2007 Report Share Posted August 16, 2007 ICS or VFC? im planning to skirmish with it so it wont be on my personal manikin. Link to post Share on other sites
vbtb110 Posted August 17, 2007 Report Share Posted August 17, 2007 Shame its an ICS. Link to post Share on other sites
The Gopher Posted August 17, 2007 Report Share Posted August 17, 2007 The ICS/A.E MP5 is not that bad of a replica, I would complain about the single stock securing screw the most. But I digress. Meh, AKs aren't my thing. But that little Krinkov would be sick with GBB and gobs of kick. Link to post Share on other sites
Pinkfloyd Posted August 17, 2007 Report Share Posted August 17, 2007 Where are ICS made? Taiwan? Link to post Share on other sites
lineman66 Posted August 17, 2007 Report Share Posted August 17, 2007 you are correct I'm with DarkLite, I owned an ICS AK74, it was a complete and utter disappointment, the metal wrapped around plastic receiver BS made me so angry and deceived as a consumer, internals were rubbish too. but I guess companies can change.... right? Link to post Share on other sites
Robot 2000 Posted August 17, 2007 Report Share Posted August 17, 2007 My ICS AK died after about 500 rounds because the motor burned out the switch assembly VFC > all Link to post Share on other sites
Rapier Posted August 17, 2007 Report Share Posted August 17, 2007 Now you just need to get one of those "AK74M"s take out the gearbox and hop up, bodge in a CA hop up and slap a CA gearbox in it and it'll make a great AK100! Link to post Share on other sites
Cliffor Posted August 18, 2007 Report Share Posted August 18, 2007 I'm just happy there will finally be a folding stock ak74 that I can actually afford Link to post Share on other sites
Robot 2000 Posted August 18, 2007 Report Share Posted August 18, 2007 I'm just happy there will finally be a folding stock ak74 that I can actually afford <{POST_SNAPBACK}> enjoy spending the extra cash you would have dropped on a VFC on "upgrading" the ICS to the point where it actually works Link to post Share on other sites
Guinness Posted August 18, 2007 Report Share Posted August 18, 2007 I've never owned an ICS so I'm asking purely for educational purposes, but I hear folks running them down all over and I hear people that 'invest'(?) mucho dinero into them and love them. Although I believe they are a Taiwan product, wouldn't they be equivalent roughly to any brand of chicom "clone" product that folks are raving about for the past year or so? meaning they likely require the same care and upgrade to gearbox, etc to make them as 'reliable' as their Japanese counterpart? ....and would also make them analogous to G&G, CA, so on and so forth? Slainte! -G Link to post Share on other sites
DarkLite Posted August 18, 2007 Report Share Posted August 18, 2007 Although I believe they are a Taiwan product, wouldn't they be equivalent roughly to any brand of chicom "clone" product that folks are raving about for the past year or so? meaning they likely require the same care and upgrade to gearbox, etc to make them as 'reliable' as their Japanese counterpart? <{POST_SNAPBACK}> Except ICS's prices are much higher than CYMA's. Link to post Share on other sites
Rapier Posted August 18, 2007 Report Share Posted August 18, 2007 I've never owned an ICS so I'm asking purely for educational purposes, but I hear folks running them down all over and I hear people that 'invest'(?) mucho dinero into them and love them. Although I believe they are a Taiwan product, wouldn't they be equivalent roughly to any brand of chicom "clone" product that folks are raving about for the past year or so? meaning they likely require the same care and upgrade to gearbox, etc to make them as 'reliable' as their Japanese counterpart? ....and would also make them analogous to G&G, CA, so on and so forth? Slainte! -G <{POST_SNAPBACK}> You kinda hit it on the head. QC of the ChiCom clones, but the externals and price of a CA. Not to mention that ICS REALLY doesn't like to make their internals compatable with TM/CA/anyone. ICS just doesn't understand the basic principals of building a gearbox. Hence my statment about yanking out the gearbox and hop and replacing with CA ones. Link to post Share on other sites
iloveics Posted August 18, 2007 Report Share Posted August 18, 2007 You kinda hit it on the head. QC of the ChiCom clones, but the externals and price of a CA. Not to mention that ICS REALLY doesn't like to make their internals compatable with TM/CA/anyone. ICS just doesn't understand the basic principals of building a gearbox. Hence my statment about yanking out the gearbox and hop and replacing with CA ones. <{POST_SNAPBACK}> Lots and lots of people absolutly love ICS invation, ie split gearbox. The gearbox on my ICS mp5 was pretty nice. Don't see how they "don't understand basic pricipals of building a gearbox". Link to post Share on other sites
neoptolemus Posted August 18, 2007 Report Share Posted August 18, 2007 It's not fair everyone is so eager to bash ICS. Now I admit their beginning as an airsoft manufacturer was less than stellar, but they were the first to produce modernized AK's for mass consumption. Even if their original "AK-74M" was in actuality a late model AK-74N, they worked hard on accurately reproducing the rifle as well as giving it good shooting characteristics. Why would you compare this to a TM? TM was responsible for the awful Beta Spetsnaz, which in my opinion is a far greater crime than anything committed by ICS. I would loved to have seen a full metal receiver and was indeed surprised when I took my gun apart to see a plastic frame, but I still would rather have had my ICS than an awful looking CA SLR or the incorrect G&G "RK-103". This thread is about the new ICS AK series, not about how you don't like their MP-5's or how you want people to buy a VFC. And thanks FarEast for providing pictures; I am sure they will interest some budget minded Russian arms enthusiasts... Link to post Share on other sites
FarEast Posted August 18, 2007 Author Report Share Posted August 18, 2007 You kinda hit it on the head. QC of the ChiCom clones, but the externals and price of a CA. Not to mention that ICS REALLY doesn't like to make their internals compatable with TM/CA/anyone. ICS just doesn't understand the basic principals of building a gearbox. Hence my statment about yanking out the gearbox and hop and replacing with CA ones. <{POST_SNAPBACK}> Erm you ever heard of copyright infringment, if ICS want to sell thier guns in Japan there are certain things that they cannot copy from the TM weapon, the selector Mech is one, hopup is another. If you want a STAR or CA here in Japan they come without hop unit and selector switch and you have to put them in yourself due to the law. The split gearbox design is excellent and is a huge improvement on the TM style gear box, the forward assist is a great innovation and its actually great to see a company that is pushing forward new ideas rather than copying a design that is now about 20 years old. Link to post Share on other sites
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