Mac GFT8 CO Posted October 22, 2009 Report Share Posted October 22, 2009 The ones that are in the second batch will probably tell us. So... Patience... Agreed. Link to post Share on other sites
fyurian Posted October 22, 2009 Report Share Posted October 22, 2009 patience is overrated it only gets u so far thats futuristic talk live in the present now seriously the promises they are giving are worth well....... nothing i wonder what the delay reason is this time?? Link to post Share on other sites
uscmCorps Posted October 22, 2009 Report Share Posted October 22, 2009 i wonder what the delay reason is this time?? The only thing holding up the shipment are the new magazine bumpers - due mid next week (original delivery date was this past Thursday) Link to post Share on other sites
Bishamon Tiger Posted October 22, 2009 Report Share Posted October 22, 2009 I think fyurian was wondering why we haven't heard anything new on the current delay - whether the buffers haven't arrived/aren't right/etc - given that we're past the middle of the week. I think it's a fair point. Edit: spelling. Link to post Share on other sites
uscmCorps Posted October 22, 2009 Report Share Posted October 22, 2009 Ahhh, understood. Link to post Share on other sites
fyurian Posted October 23, 2009 Report Share Posted October 23, 2009 yes srry im not always that clear Link to post Share on other sites
bknewcomb Posted October 23, 2009 Report Share Posted October 23, 2009 I wonder how in depth of a modification the bumper/buffer is? Considering the gun was done when the upgrade was requsted, you'd think that this would be a "drop-in" type mod. That should translate into a quick turn around. Hopefully some of us will have good news today. Link to post Share on other sites
Bishamon Tiger Posted October 23, 2009 Report Share Posted October 23, 2009 I'm just wondering how important these buffers are and whether we'll get the option to go without them if they haven't arrived/arrived but weren't up to standard/the glue has run out/etc etc etc. I think an update would be appreciated by all. Link to post Share on other sites
Sonny Posted October 23, 2009 Report Share Posted October 23, 2009 From their Facebook page: News update - the magazine buffers arrived yesterday, fitment is perfect! They will be assembled over the weekend, and the second batch will be shipping out Monday. Link to post Share on other sites
Bishamon Tiger Posted October 23, 2009 Report Share Posted October 23, 2009 That's great news Sonny - thanks for updating us It seems that Facebook has become the approved conduit of TSI news. Could this be the end of Arnies...and emails to stakeholders, for that matter? Link to post Share on other sites
bknewcomb Posted October 23, 2009 Report Share Posted October 23, 2009 Thank you! That's both great news, and slightly disappointing. That being said, I think next week may start off great! Link to post Share on other sites
DrKalinka Posted October 23, 2009 Report Share Posted October 23, 2009 Wish they were using twitter.. Then us anti FB people could see it without creating a profile... Link to post Share on other sites
The Reptile House Posted October 23, 2009 Report Share Posted October 23, 2009 Or maybe the people who bought could have been emailed? Link to post Share on other sites
uscmCorps Posted October 23, 2009 Report Share Posted October 23, 2009 I wonder how in depth of a modification the bumper/buffer is? Considering the gun was done when the upgrade was requsted, you'd think that this would be a "drop-in" type mod. That should translate into a quick turn around. Hopefully some of us will have good news today. That's kind of the issue you encounter when a company is forced to deal with outside vendors. There's only so much TSI can do in house, and sometimes to meet capacity or schedules small portions of a job may need to be outsourced. But outsourcing is a complicated process in of itself. Outside vendors tend to re-prioritize jobs according to their own perceived priorities on a company by company basis. Being promised a week turnaround time that later evolves to a 2 or 3 week process is frustratingly common especially when a bigger job comes in that guarantees more money. All of a sudden, your smaller jobs get bumped to the back of the queue. I've seen this in every service industry from machine shops to print shops. And it sucks for everyone, from the company waiting for the parts to the customer waiting for the finished product. And everyone in that equation are often equally in the dark. Link to post Share on other sites
Bishamon Tiger Posted October 23, 2009 Report Share Posted October 23, 2009 And everyone in that equation are often equally in the dark. Not so much if they're on facebook though, obviously. Link to post Share on other sites
uscmCorps Posted October 23, 2009 Report Share Posted October 23, 2009 Not so much if they're on facebook though, obviously. LOL. Being on Facebook doesn't imply they know what their vendors are doing if the vendors aren't keeping their own promises. Simply that they're doing their best to keep as many people informed through out the world (not just Arnies) with whatever pertinent updates that come up. If they're not updating people it's mostly because they're in the dark with their outsourced vendors who promised them one thing and not delivering on schedule. Delays at the head of a pipeline trickles down through the rest of the pipe like a ripple effect. It's not that TSI are dodging/avoiding their customers, simply that up until recently they had nothing new to report as some delays are out of their hands. Giving constant reports that some might interpret as excuses or passing the buck, can be just as damaging to their rep and frustrating to customers as rare/infrequent communications. It looks like they did the best that they can to get everything ready so that as soon as the parts came in they can get them all through final assembly and out to people, and only updated people when there was something worthwhile sharing. In a production pipeline things theoretically should go smoothly and quickly. It never works out that way though as there are too many unpredictable obstacles. I know Guy. He's not out to rip people off. He's simply doing the best that he can given the circumstances. Fortunately, it appears the vendor finally came through for him, so he can get things shipped out. I'd rather Guy get it done right and get a product out that he's proud of, than something he feels fell short of his intentions. Link to post Share on other sites
The Reptile House Posted October 23, 2009 Report Share Posted October 23, 2009 uscmCorps - you should be in PR It's worth sending a friend request to TSI Armories on FB - new pics are up. Link to post Share on other sites
bknewcomb Posted October 23, 2009 Report Share Posted October 23, 2009 This pre order hasn't met one deadline yet. Disappointing? Yes, but it's a pre order! By it's very definition you have to wait. The fact that TSI, for whatever reason, did not make it's stated deadlines tipped me off that should I choose to wait for the IDF upgrades, most likely it wouldn't happen in the seven day time frame TSI hoped for. I'm excited about the guns shipping on Monday. If it doesn't happen, then I will have expected it. If it does, great! USCMCORPS is right. There are to many variables to expect perfection in deadlines. Link to post Share on other sites
Hristo Posted October 23, 2009 Report Share Posted October 23, 2009 Once you receive the rifle and it turns out to be great, you'll forget about the wait. RS SVD is good example. One thing that bothers me is should I ask for the free rail and could this mean more waiting ? (Somehow I don't think additional rails are ready). Link to post Share on other sites
bknewcomb Posted October 23, 2009 Report Share Posted October 23, 2009 Well, they did say the rails would ship with the guns, and they said the guns are ready to ship, minus IDF upgrades, so i am thinking you're safe on that one. Link to post Share on other sites
bknewcomb Posted October 24, 2009 Report Share Posted October 24, 2009 Give this a try. From Facebook Link to post Share on other sites
Bishamon Tiger Posted October 24, 2009 Report Share Posted October 24, 2009 One thing that bothers me is should I ask for the free rail and could this mean more waiting ? (Somehow I don't think additional rails are ready). Well, they did say the rails would ship with the guns, and they said the guns are ready to ship, minus IDF upgrades, so i am thinking you're safe on that one. I agree with bknewcomb's analysis, but maybe when you shoot your request to Guy, you could ask him to confirm it won't introduce a delay? ...and then obviously tell us if it does - I can imagine loads of people won't want to wait for that free rail if it means a delay Link to post Share on other sites
Neno Posted October 26, 2009 Report Share Posted October 26, 2009 Any news from TSI armories? Link to post Share on other sites
bknewcomb Posted October 26, 2009 Report Share Posted October 26, 2009 Just that second shot should ship today. Too early still to know. It's only 8 am Link to post Share on other sites
The Reptile House Posted October 26, 2009 Report Share Posted October 26, 2009 Just spotted this on FB from about an hour ago: We are resuming shipping today, and will be steadily shipping units from now until the 2nd week of November. All sales in the US are still going directly through our site, with approx. 80 guns left of the first production batch. Link to post Share on other sites
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