The Reptile House Posted October 31, 2009 Report Share Posted October 31, 2009 BK - have you had a stab at taking the gearbox out? Appreciate you don't want to go inside it but I was wondering how easy the quick release function is to use? Link to post Share on other sites
zippenpipper Posted October 31, 2009 Report Share Posted October 31, 2009 When did this topic get moved to the Gen. Discussion? Link to post Share on other sites
bbstriker Posted October 31, 2009 Report Share Posted October 31, 2009 it'll be worth it! It really is a beautiful piece of work. Any issues at this point are minor, and some are just in the eye of the beholder. It was worth seven months. So how accurate does it shoot? What's the hop like? What FPS? What's the rate of fire like? What does it sound like- e.g can you hear the motor/ gearbox whine etc? Cheers Tony Link to post Share on other sites
bknewcomb Posted October 31, 2009 Report Share Posted October 31, 2009 I don't dare try that yet. Again, I'm kinda dumb with this stuff. I did take a look wit a flashlight and if I'm looking at what I think I'm looking at, then it's just a couple pins out and slide the gearbox out Link to post Share on other sites
The Reptile House Posted October 31, 2009 Report Share Posted October 31, 2009 That's good enough, mate. Thank you Link to post Share on other sites
The Reptile House Posted October 31, 2009 Report Share Posted October 31, 2009 So how accurate does it shoot? What's the hop like? What FPS? What's the rate of fire like? What does it sound like- e.g can you hear the motor/ gearbox whine etc? I think he's still waiting for a battery. Link to post Share on other sites
bknewcomb Posted October 31, 2009 Report Share Posted October 31, 2009 Found someone with an 8.4v if it has the right connector, I may be able to test tomorrow Link to post Share on other sites
zippenpipper Posted October 31, 2009 Report Share Posted October 31, 2009 is it a small or large connector that you need? Link to post Share on other sites
Bishamon Tiger Posted October 31, 2009 Report Share Posted October 31, 2009 When did this topic get moved to the Gen. Discussion? Good spot. Dunno, but since the AEG has now been released (technically) it seems appropriate. Link to post Share on other sites
Hristo Posted October 31, 2009 Report Share Posted October 31, 2009 Frankly, that Eotech is so out of place, it should be MARS, Mepro or ACOG , nothing else . Link to post Share on other sites
FallenGuard Posted October 31, 2009 Report Share Posted October 31, 2009 I think EO looks great on the Tavor, also the 20rnd Pmags. Make it look like a Scifi-Gun (OK, not everyone cup of tea I know). Can't wait even less to get mine now. Link to post Share on other sites
bknewcomb Posted October 31, 2009 Report Share Posted October 31, 2009 Well, the EOTech is nice, but I think the gun would be even more comfortable to shoulder with the higher sitting MARS. That and that's the "classic" look. Link to post Share on other sites
X459 Posted October 31, 2009 Report Share Posted October 31, 2009 So How did it come packaged? its own cardboard box like most manufacturers? Link to post Share on other sites
bbstriker Posted October 31, 2009 Report Share Posted October 31, 2009 I think he's still waiting for a battery. Ok so no one will really know whether it was worth waiting seven months or not until the gun is tested unless of course its a wall adornment. I'm not impressed with the mag issues after all the delays based on quality control. Factory acceptance testing and user acceptance testing seems to have been missed out unless Bknewcomb has a turkey. Link to post Share on other sites
Bishamon Tiger Posted October 31, 2009 Report Share Posted October 31, 2009 I'm not impressed with the mag issues after all the delays based on quality control. Factory acceptance testing and user acceptance testing seems to have been missed out unless Bknewcomb has a turkey. It's a fair point, but I also think that if I'd bought an Ares Tavor I'd want this to end badly too. I think it's far too early to tell. Link to post Share on other sites
DrKalinka Posted October 31, 2009 Report Share Posted October 31, 2009 And also. Not every gun is compatible with every magazine. If the TSI tavor isnt compatible with the CA mag, it probably is compatible with another type. We dont know before someone gets to test it. Link to post Share on other sites
bbstriker Posted November 1, 2009 Report Share Posted November 1, 2009 It's a fair point, but I also think that if I'd bought an Ares Tavor I'd want this to end badly too. I think it's far too early to tell. I certainly do not want this to end badly as I want to buy one! I want the confidence that the TSI version is superior. I got an Ares version because I was not happy about TSI lack of pictures, poor commitment to delivery and failure to deliver on promises. I want to play with a TAVOR and have have had that fun in the last seven months More than once my mouse pointer hovered over the TSI Armouries buy button even though I has my Ares TAVOR next to me. Mag compatibility is something they should have tested thoroughly and made a statement about. Link to post Share on other sites
Bishamon Tiger Posted November 1, 2009 Report Share Posted November 1, 2009 I can't find any other reviews anywhere. Anyone else have any luck? Surely BK can't be the only TSI Tavor owner who is kind enough to offer first impressions to those of us waiting impatiently? Edit: bbstriker - go on, just buy one Link to post Share on other sites
bknewcomb Posted November 1, 2009 Report Share Posted November 1, 2009 I was told by tsi that each gun is tested with MAG mags and others. They told me they have gone back and tested other guns again and seems mine may have been an exception. Please don't take my issues as a typical common problem Link to post Share on other sites
bknewcomb Posted November 1, 2009 Report Share Posted November 1, 2009 Update: Borrowed av 8.4v today. Everything worked and sounded great. Couldn't test the FPS because I had no chrono, but it tore the heck out of a stack of pizza boxes. Also couldn't really test hopup due to us shooting indoors. The range we needed wasn't there. Looks like the only functionality problem with mine was a probably faulty mag catch which I suspect isn't a cronic problem. Link to post Share on other sites
Neno Posted November 1, 2009 Report Share Posted November 1, 2009 Just tell us how big is the space for the batteries? Link to post Share on other sites
Hristo Posted November 1, 2009 Report Share Posted November 1, 2009 I’ve compiled a cronological list of TSI announcements made on this forum, email or Facebook: TSI on Aug 19th The production samples have come in, and in good shape. A small fire has been lit under the vendor's bum to expedite production. TSI on Sep 16th Gentleman, Our guns will start shipping in a few days. The guns will ship out in three batches: the first batch will go out on the 19th, the second batch on the 31st, and the third batch will ship on October 9th. The guns will ship in the same order they were purchased, and each one of you will be getting an email with a tracking number once your order has shipped out. Please refrain from sending us emails asking what order number yours is, as we are all working around the clock assembling and testing products, and there are not enough hours in a day to respond to individual emails... As always, we appreciate you patience and support. Best regards, Guy Ayal TSI Armories LLC TSI on Sep 23rd Thank you Amoki, I couldn't have said it better myself. All I can add to that is that each and every gun is inspected so carefully, that even scratched parts are rejected, even at the cost of disassembling and reassembling the gun. We are as eager to get these out to you as much as you are eager to get your hands on...and are doing everything in our power to make it happen sooner then later. Your orders are going out BEFORE a large order is going out to the IDF...just to show you how much we value your faith and business TSI on Oct 9th Gents, As some of you may know, our C.T.A.R was chosen by the IDF as there new training platform. In the process of evaluating the gun, a few test units were sent to the IDF with a simple request - try and break them. We have received their feedback last week (hence my limited availability) and a few requests (a polite way of saying "demands") were made - 1. A different, flatter finish on the top metal parts (parts were sand blasted and re-anodized to mil spec standards) 2. Better water-proofing for the electronics 3. A "buffer" in front of the magwell to facilitate faster, smoother magazine changes and reloads. All three items were implemented immediately. Why am I telling you this? Well, if your order is part of the second batch, your gun is ready to ship. We would like to offer you the same upgrades at no additional cost, just because we want you to have the best product we can deliver. You are looking at about a 7 days delay in the shipping time should you choose to upgrade. The third batch will not be effected and will ship as planned at the end of the month, upgrades included. If you DO NOT want to have the above mentioned upgrades in your order, please respond with a simple "no thank" to this email and your order will ship immediately. Please note the upgrades must be done in the assembly stage, and will not be offered as an aftermarket upgrade. Best regards, Guy Ayal TSI Armories LLC TSI on Oct 17th The only thing holding up the shipment are the new magazine bumpers - due mid next week (original delivery date was this past Thursday) TSI on Oct 17th We are expecting an update from the optics manufacturer on Monday. The magazine bumper (or buffer) was designed to compensate for the size difference in the magazine well between real steel (magazine well) and airsoft (magazine), and to facilitate smoother, faster mag changes. It was one of the changes requested bu the IDF. TSI on Oct 20th yes, first batch is out, second will be out within the week third will ship out late next week or the beggining of the following TSI on Oct 23rd News update - the magazine buffers arrived yesterday, fitment is perfect! They will be assembled over the weekend, and the second batch will be shipping out Monday. TSI on Oct 26th We are resuming shipping today, and will be steadily shipping units from now until the 2nd week of November. All sales in the US are still going directly through our site, with approx. 80 guns left of the first production batch. TSI on Oct 27th Another quick update - the orders are shipped in the order they were received. We have the side rails and the rear optic mounts in stock, and for those of you who were promissed a free accessory - they are shipping with the guns. TSI on Oct 27th yes - all of the pre-orders are shipping with extra outer barrels as promised. If you have a MARS replica on order, it will not hold up the shipment of the gun. Link to post Share on other sites
Hristo Posted November 1, 2009 Report Share Posted November 1, 2009 So my question is, who received the first batch ? (TSI on Oct 20th) IDF ? That would contradict what TSI said on Sep 23rd. Preorders ? Anyone got a preorder before Oct 20th ? Link to post Share on other sites
The Reptile House Posted November 1, 2009 Report Share Posted November 1, 2009 I share your exasperation and would really like to know where we stand with this. Link to post Share on other sites
Amoki Posted November 2, 2009 Report Share Posted November 2, 2009 So my question is, who received the first batch ? (TSI on Oct 20th) IDF ? That would contradict what TSI said on Sep 23rd. Preorders ? Anyone got a preorder before Oct 20th ? Not necessarily. The impression I (I can't emphasis this is my impression and mine alone) got: Pre-production run: IDF samples for large quantity order (this order was made waaaay before pre-ordering started in May) First ,Second and Third Batch: Order 1-80 (I think it was said somewhere there were 80 pre-orders) So that makes roughly ~30 guns per batch, and roughly ~3 guns shipped out per day) Fourth Batch: Large IDF production Fifth Batch: commerical made-to-demand/ limited & final run? (similar to TSI Galil)? Link to post Share on other sites
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