Pkekyo-Nor Posted October 15, 2009 Author Report Share Posted October 15, 2009 Is it an actual vest or a armor/plate carrier? If the former, meh, it's up to you. The latter: move it. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Robinio Posted October 15, 2009 Report Share Posted October 15, 2009 It's my weesatch:p Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Pkekyo-Nor Posted October 15, 2009 Author Report Share Posted October 15, 2009 Put it on the waiststrap, the leftmost part of the front, or preferably on your 1st line belt. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Robinio Posted October 15, 2009 Report Share Posted October 15, 2009 Yeah, I have it on my waiststrap Quote Link to post Share on other sites
thewallhitme Posted October 16, 2009 Report Share Posted October 16, 2009 on my plate carrier, mine is on the right hand side. seems most logical as i dont use that side for loading/ammo storage. only problem im having is that the elastic in my medic pouch has worn out a bit and it doesnt keep stuff as tight as it used to, so now by the end of a few hours running around, all my stuff has slipped out and is bundles in the bottom of my pouch. im going to stitch the elastic so that its more of a pocket rather than just a horizontal strap. incidently i almost needed to use my kit the other day because someone ran full pelt into a barbwire fence (around the perimiter of the site so that public dont enter). he didnt see it when he was sprinting. luckily he had thick clothing on and so he wasnt hurt (or didnt let on to be when i asked him). Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Azulsky Posted October 16, 2009 Report Share Posted October 16, 2009 (edited) For the purposes of airsoft if you need to get out medical stuff then you need to stop gameplay anyway so it doesnt matter. That said we always have a registered EMT and my medical pouch holds misc like inhaler, excedrin, that kind of boo boo stuff and it sides at my 3 o clock on most of my kits. As far as milsimz goes one school of thought says that your medical kit is there for someone else to treat you with, the other school of thought says you may need to fix yourself in the case of multiple casualties because the medic/corpsman is treating the most critically injured first Edited October 16, 2009 by Azulsky Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Murph Posted October 16, 2009 Report Share Posted October 16, 2009 Remember folks, the First Aid Gear & Discussion thread is here: http://www.arniesairsoft.co.uk/forums/inde...howtopic=172446 Pictures are here: This is my general/catch-all ouchie boo-boo kit. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
08kecarv Posted October 24, 2009 Report Share Posted October 24, 2009 I don't know if you should carry your epipen on the outside of your kit like that; thats one thing you for sure don't wanna lose. I mean I understand putting on the outside of your pack for accessibility but you don't want the cap to pop off or something. Just an idea, as i've needed to use an epipen before and me being first aid/cpr/aed certified, I see the need for it often. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Murph Posted October 24, 2009 Report Share Posted October 24, 2009 I don't know if you should carry your epipen on the outside of your kit like that; thats one thing you for sure don't wanna lose. I mean I understand putting on the outside of your pack for accessibility but you don't want the cap to pop off or something. Just an idea, as i've needed to use an epipen before and me being first aid/cpr/aed certified, I see the need for it often. Considering it's just a spray dispenser of hand sanitizer, I think I'll be okay. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
08kecarv Posted October 24, 2009 Report Share Posted October 24, 2009 OH haha, well in that case, by all means My bad Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Dangerous Posted November 4, 2009 Report Share Posted November 4, 2009 We are covered by similar legislation in the UK. No, we aren't covered by such legislation in the UK, and there is no such thing as a "Good Samaritan's Act" That said, as long as you act in the patient's best interests, respect their beliefs, gained appropriate consent AND acting within the realms of your training then you won't face procecution (this has been proven in law). So, if you are a trained first aider and decide to perform an emergency tracheostomy with a pen knife and a biro you can fall foul of the law. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Scuffer Posted November 4, 2009 Report Share Posted November 4, 2009 No, we aren't covered by such legislation in the UK, and there is no such thing as a "Good Samaritan's Act" That said, as long as you act in the patient's best interests, respect their beliefs, gained appropriate consent AND acting within the realms of your training then you won't face procecution (this has been proven in law). So, if you are a trained first aider and decide to perform an emergency tracheostomy with a pen knife and a biro you can fall foul of the law. Yup, you are very right there. Not covered by law but likelyhood of prosecution is low should you adhere to the things you've mentioned. Funnily enough, since posting that I've been on a comprehensive first aid course for work and am far more aware of the subject. Appologies for any mis-information! Quote Link to post Share on other sites
08kecarv Posted November 4, 2009 Report Share Posted November 4, 2009 I think the thing that most people don't realize about First Aid is that there ARE laws when it comes to helping people. Even if you're doing it in their best interest and you *fruitcage* up, you're the one to blame. I guess thats why I get all flustered when people try to provide care beyond the knowledge of their abilities. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Dangerous Posted November 4, 2009 Report Share Posted November 4, 2009 Problem is 08kecarv is different laws apply in different parts of the world... in Europe for instance you can receive a fine for failure to give aid to the victim of an accident (the paparrazi who took photos of Princess Diana were fined 1 euro each for not delivering first aid under that law), yet we don't have such a law in the UK - nobody is legally obliged to provide first aid... even first aiders! However, professional medical staff who are registered with a governing body may fall foul of their code of conduct (such as paramedics). So, it may not be law that a paramedic has to render aid whilst off duty they can face being struck off the professional register (and thus lose their livelyhood) if reported... Thankfully there isn't a huge amount that can go wrong when delivering first aid, so as long as the first aider provides care in line with the principles of first aid, within their level of training, and respects beliefs and gains appropriate consent they should be OK Don't worry about it Scuffer - I know these things (I teach first aid... ) Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Murph Posted November 4, 2009 Report Share Posted November 4, 2009 Seriously, I've run out of pictures to post... The DISCUSSION thead is here: http://www.arniesairsoft.co.uk/forums/inde...howtopic=172446 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
England Wonder Posted November 4, 2009 Report Share Posted November 4, 2009 Seriously, I've run out of pictures to post... Allow me This is a first aid kit I put togeather for outdoor activities, camping, walking etc. The idea was that it contained the stuff to deal with most first aid situations until help arrived. If many people had the same kit you could grab any and know what you have It fit's into a waterproof bag (aloksak) and will go in a jacket pocket. Here it is packed next to a bushcraft knife This would seem ok for an airsoft player to have. The kit had hydrogel for burns triangular bandage gloves alcohol cleaning spray non alco cleaning wipes plasters dressing gauze crepe bandage CPR mask plasters I have similar content in my maxpedition proteus back pocket. I use it for cycling as well and like to have the basics, mostly for me. I also have clinical waste bag, space blanket and personal meds. Since I use the same bag for airsofting it seems fair enough to keep it there. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
England Wonder Posted November 4, 2009 Report Share Posted November 4, 2009 This kit is a bit bigger (ok a lot bigger, that's a 40L pack) opened up it has a whole load of pockets Sometimes a blanket (the bit in the top right is a pocket with my hi vis coat in) As you can see, much of the stuff is the same but in bulk However there is still a small belt pouch FAK that isn't very different in content from the first kit. There is also a pouch with scissors and pens in as I tend to have a lot of paperwork to do when using this kit This kit has bulk numbers of items. A site may have (I think should) cover most of the items in this somewhere. I'd stock a kit with gloves plasters range of dressings (though not that many as they would just go out of date before they get used) cleaning wipes eye wash tape scissors tweezers triangular bandages couple of supplort bandages couple of ice packs vomit bag clinical waste bag it would also be handy to have a blanket to keep an injured person warm. blanket Quote Link to post Share on other sites
survivalist31 Posted November 16, 2009 Report Share Posted November 16, 2009 Dear god that kit is amazing. I wish i had the time and money to put a kit that size together but alas i do not. survivalist31 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
mattyw Posted January 7, 2010 Report Share Posted January 7, 2010 England Wonder how much stuff do you need and were are the st john forms mate (I guest you were a member by the pens) Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Pkekyo-Nor Posted April 28, 2010 Author Report Share Posted April 28, 2010 Thread revival! Vinyl gloves, EMT shears on a lanyard, combat bandages, gauss, SOFTT tourniquet, chemlights, compresses and some other bits and pieces. Oh, and the ingenious Combatkit Rip-Off panel! <3 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Soba Posted June 8, 2010 Report Share Posted June 8, 2010 A few IFAKs of mine. Starting on the left we have a Molle Medical Pouch w/ 2 Israeli Bandages, 1 CAT Tourniquet and, Surgical Shears. In the Middle is a Drop Leg Medical Pouch w/ 2 Israeli Bandages, 1 CAT Tourniquet, Surgical Shears and Medical Tape. And the last one is an issue IFAK with / 1 Israeli Bandage, 1 CAT Tourniquet, Compressed Gauze, 1 Nasopharyngeal, Medical Tape, Latex Gloves Quote Link to post Share on other sites
thirteen/autumns Posted June 9, 2010 Report Share Posted June 9, 2010 you should try that NPA!!! Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Soba Posted June 9, 2010 Report Share Posted June 9, 2010 Oh I've had one before. You're sinuses feel super clear after it comes out . Quote Link to post Share on other sites
08kecarv Posted June 16, 2010 Report Share Posted June 16, 2010 you should try that NPA!!! No ways!!! Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Gentner91 Posted June 17, 2010 Report Share Posted June 17, 2010 @Soba: Ive been looking at picking up one of those drop leg medical rigs and I was wondering if you could telll me if the black hawk model can hold more then just the 1 ETD per loop. It seems like the NA RESCUE model can hold 2 per loop, but Im not sure of the quality of their products. Thanks in advance. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
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