1kenny1kenny1 Posted June 26, 2017 Report Share Posted June 26, 2017 IIRC the LCT front sight inner diameter is slightly wider than the outer diameter of WE's barrel So you might have to make some steel epoxy magic there. yeah buddy, the diameter of LCT hole is 15mm, the diameter of Well outer barrel is 14mm. We will see when the WE outer barrel will arrive, I will start the mod, will surely post here how I fixed it Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Batmause Posted June 26, 2017 Report Share Posted June 26, 2017 Can anybody confirm that there is any size difference between AK74UN and AK PMC gaspiston size? We found few fitting issues with the newest version of WE AK74UN and the WELL G74As havent this size issues - the gaspiston is to long to our conversion kit. I started to be affraid about WE changed the original design somewhere because we don't need to cut down/shorter the gas piston on G74As to let the bolt close properly. I have WE and WELL gas-piston in my hand, they are totally same size so I'm a bit confused... I will be happy if I got any confirmation from you, with a picture with the two parts, I will be more happier. Thanks guys! Quote Link to post Share on other sites
DarkLite Posted June 26, 2017 Report Share Posted June 26, 2017 PMC gas piston is longer, like the real steel. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Batmause Posted June 26, 2017 Report Share Posted June 26, 2017 WE outer barrel is the same size as I know. I got this pics from my japanese customer, today. 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Batmause Posted June 26, 2017 Report Share Posted June 26, 2017 PMC gas piston is longer, like the real steel. Great. Do you know the piston sizes? Quote Link to post Share on other sites
renegadecow Posted June 27, 2017 Report Share Posted June 27, 2017 PMC gas piston is longer, like the real steel. Definitely longer, but not quite like real steel. It's about an inch shorter so the piston doest actually go into the gas block. I was a bit peeved by this on my 105 build so fabricated a longer piston that does. 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
1kenny1kenny1 Posted June 27, 2017 Report Share Posted June 27, 2017 WE outer barrel is the same size as I know. I got this pics from my japanese customer, today. Please, if you have option to weight, How much is the WE steel outer barrel heavier compared to the WELL aluminium ? Quote Link to post Share on other sites
NonEx Posted June 27, 2017 Report Share Posted June 27, 2017 (edited) Having had my WE steel barrel out of my rifle I can tell you it is hefty. No idea how it compares to the WELL alu one though Lookie what I just got in my mailbox MAGPUL AK74 MOE PMAGs now shipping! Two years after announcement (or more) and I have an order for 2 of these with Brownells from April 2016! Hounded MAGPUL 3 times this year on release date because they kept pushing it. https://www.magpul.com/products/pmag-30-ak74-moe These mofos better fit the WE AK74UN internals and work in my MAGPUL build Edited June 27, 2017 by NonEx 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
1kenny1kenny1 Posted June 27, 2017 Report Share Posted June 27, 2017 I love steel for mine mags are waiting Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Dimitri MdP Posted June 28, 2017 Report Share Posted June 28, 2017 I love steel for mine mags are waiting If you're hoping to use WE magazine internals on real magazine shells, you'll be disappointed... Quote Link to post Share on other sites
1kenny1kenny1 Posted June 28, 2017 Report Share Posted June 28, 2017 If you're hoping to use WE magazine internals on real magazine shells, you'll be disappointed... I will use WELL CO2 magazines, they are a bit different (and cheaper only 20 EURO / pcs) I know that it will require a lof of modifying, I am ready to that. Did mine Tula mags back for AEG. It will not be easy, but will try one Did somebody here tried already ? Quote Link to post Share on other sites
NonEx Posted June 28, 2017 Report Share Posted June 28, 2017 (edited) I tried fitting a WE Ak47 magazine in a MAGPUL MOE AK47 PMAG and it kinda worked but I messed up the install and had to file down a lot of the upper inside walls of the mag to fit but hoping the 74 mags are better because they have a more smooth outside surface. Should have kept the locking tab on the PMAG and not the magazine body. Was just a proof of concept test installation anyways and I really want the 74 mags instead. Hope I can make it work. Edited June 28, 2017 by NonEx 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
1kenny1kenny1 Posted June 28, 2017 Report Share Posted June 28, 2017 Yeah it is hit or miss for the first run, it is easier for WELL as they are cheaper, so it does not hurt that much here someone did GHK similarly 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Dimitri MdP Posted June 28, 2017 Report Share Posted June 28, 2017 WE's AK-74 magazines are longer than the real deal. I know many that have tried and failed. Don't really see Well's being all that different. Yeah it is hit or miss for the first run, it is easier for WELL as they are cheaper, so it does not hurt that much It's not the costs of the airsoft magazines that I'm worried about, but the cost of the real mags. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
1kenny1kenny1 Posted June 28, 2017 Report Share Posted June 28, 2017 WE's AK-74 magazines are longer than the real deal. I know many that have tried and failed. Don't really see Well's being all that different. It's not the costs of the airsoft magazines that I'm worried about, but the cost of the real mags. in the WELL is too much space not needed and that is why I don't like the gas magazines looks to long and weird., so the WELL should fit, atleast the CO2 regarding the costs, I bought the TULA mags last year for 12 Euro each and now the Izhmash 20 Euro each. all in zib-militaria.de Quote Link to post Share on other sites
DarkLite Posted June 28, 2017 Report Share Posted June 28, 2017 The WELL Co2 magazines might be able to fit real shells as you should be able to remove more material from the bottom of the magazine without affecting the co2 capsule. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Bada Bing Posted June 28, 2017 Report Share Posted June 28, 2017 Should have kept the locking tab on the PMAG and not the magazine body. Haha. Good effort though, mate. Yeah you could have kept the Magpul locking tab, lol. Taken a shallower cut. I didn't really have a choice with my GHK magazine. Hey ho. It's all part of the fun, right? Quote Link to post Share on other sites
NonEx Posted June 28, 2017 Report Share Posted June 28, 2017 (edited) My WE AK47 mag sits pretty much flush with the bottom of the PMAG on that install I posted pics of above so I can't use the OEM locking plate and spring but should be able to make it work somehow. We shall see soon enough. I emailed Brownells Sweden and asked them to put my order as top priority Ah wait you said 74 mags are longer than real ones. Hrmmm. oh wells. Edited June 28, 2017 by NonEx Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Brigg Posted June 29, 2017 Report Share Posted June 29, 2017 Looks like they copied the buffer out of the ghk ak's. Probably not a bad idea. I imagine it saves the pot metal parts from shattering. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
1kenny1kenny1 Posted June 29, 2017 Report Share Posted June 29, 2017 My WE AK47 mag sits pretty much flush with the bottom of the PMAG on that install I posted pics of above so I can't use the OEM locking plate and spring but should be able to make it work somehow. We shall see soon enough. I emailed Brownells Sweden and asked them to put my order as top priority Ah wait you said 74 mags are longer than real ones. Hrmmm. oh wells. Longer are only the shells, they have some kind of strange bottom , copied from GHK. Or simply the strange bottom makes it look strange. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Batmause Posted June 29, 2017 Report Share Posted June 29, 2017 Please, if you have option to weight, How much is the WE steel outer barrel heavier compared to the WELL aluminium ? Extremely light, between 40-80g. I will take appart mine and I can measure the weight if you want - I can accept some good choclate for this. 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Panocek Posted June 29, 2017 Report Share Posted June 29, 2017 I'm not familiar how WELL/WE AKs disassembly, so how doable would be replacing gas block and lower handguard band/mount in G74B (AK74m from WELL)? I'm asking as WELL went... creative there - AKM style gas block and band is missing sling loop. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Batmause Posted July 4, 2017 Report Share Posted July 4, 2017 Extremely light, between 40-80g. 68 gramms. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
NonEx Posted July 4, 2017 Report Share Posted July 4, 2017 Wow That's like... almost like a pistol aluminum barrel If I were to guess I would say the AK74UN steel barrel is at least 10x that. But it's always hard to judge just by holding something. But it is hefty. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
renegadecow Posted July 4, 2017 Report Share Posted July 4, 2017 Steel is only about 3x the density of aluminum so you're looking at around 200g. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
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