emp3ror86 Posted April 2, 2012 Report Share Posted April 2, 2012 It is just the start of my review. The replica arrived today and I only had time for a short test and inspection. More information will come as I have time to perform the tests, take photos and write about it. Sorry for my english and for the quality of the pictures. I am not a photographer. Here are the pictures: http://s900.photobucket.com/albums/ac209/emp3ror1986/Review%20pictures/KSC%20HK45%20pictures/?albumview=slideshow Main parts like barrel, slide and frame is plastic. Hopup is improved and it is great, shooting tests will follow. Shoots about 320 FPS on propane. What I like so far: Hopup HK45 Metal reinforcement within the frame. Inner structure Trademarks Outstanding quality Issues/not likes so far: Double feeding (hopup adjustment solves it) Extractor fell off after second shot Bolt catch does not engage Impression: It feels plastic, even for a japanese gun. Not cheap, plastic. The quality is great but the frame is nothing like a Glock frame. But it is comfortable. Unfortunately my hands are too small so even though it is a leftie compatible gun, my finger can not reach the magazine nor the slide release. Propane is not as strong as GG yet it delivers a serious kick, in airsoft terms of course. I definitely do not recommend the japanese version unless you can get weaker gas for it. It screams for a metal slide. Wait for the taiwan version. Feel free to ask! Quote Link to post Share on other sites
slu Posted April 2, 2012 Report Share Posted April 2, 2012 Impression: It feels plastic, even for a japanese gun. Not cheap, plastic. The quality is great but the frame is nothing like a Glock frame. And in comparison to a System 7 USP frame? Thanks for the review and photos. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
-l- Posted April 3, 2012 Report Share Posted April 3, 2012 (edited) The grip is so big that i have to use my trigger finger to engage the mag release. However after holding the HK45 I just realize how uncomfortable my marui glock is. I am looking forawrd for a decent metal slide. Edited April 3, 2012 by -l- Quote Link to post Share on other sites
emp3ror86 Posted April 3, 2012 Author Report Share Posted April 3, 2012 Unfortunately I do not have an USP to compare to. I will see if I can find someone this weekend with a KSC USP. Metal slide release: yeah, me too. And an XS grip panel... Quote Link to post Share on other sites
emp3ror86 Posted April 4, 2012 Author Report Share Posted April 4, 2012 I wanted to shoot a few mags today and tune the hopup for 0.28. Unfortunately the slide does not lock back, I need to figure out why. Another - and more serious - problem is that the outer barrel cracked. Small crack but it is going to break eventually. Had some double feed issues, too. So if you did not get this gun yet, be happy and wait for the ones with metal slide and outer barrel. I still use it only on propane. I'm really wondering what the japanese players experience with their HK45s. Can someone from Japan give us some information? Quote Link to post Share on other sites
-l- Posted April 5, 2012 Report Share Posted April 5, 2012 Accuracy is not bad though 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
intinerious Posted April 5, 2012 Report Share Posted April 5, 2012 Accuracy is not bad though Ha! Finally a coin size I can relate to Quote Link to post Share on other sites
emp3ror86 Posted April 5, 2012 Author Report Share Posted April 5, 2012 What BB do you use? Quote Link to post Share on other sites
intinerious Posted April 5, 2012 Report Share Posted April 5, 2012 What BB do you use? I read KSC 0.2g from his paper 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
-l- Posted April 5, 2012 Report Share Posted April 5, 2012 I read KSC 0.2g from his paper Yes KSC 0.2g and paper is A4 size (just in case anyone not familiar with that coin) 2 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
emp3ror86 Posted April 12, 2012 Author Report Share Posted April 12, 2012 I compared the HK45 to a KSC USP. The quality of the plastic frame is the same. This weekend I will have time for shooting more pictures so my review will be continued. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
1st Commando Posted April 12, 2012 Report Share Posted April 12, 2012 You do realise the propane is NOT weaker than green gas . Green gas is propane with oils added Quote Link to post Share on other sites
emp3ror86 Posted April 13, 2012 Author Report Share Posted April 13, 2012 I do. And chrono readings say otherwise... Quote Link to post Share on other sites
-l- Posted April 16, 2012 Report Share Posted April 16, 2012 The double feed and slide not locking back problem may cause by the magazine spring being too weak. Try to insert a 2-3cm spacer in the bottom of the mag spring to give it a "boost". Quote Link to post Share on other sites
kullwarrior Posted April 16, 2012 Report Share Posted April 16, 2012 I do. And chrono readings say otherwise... you have to realize propane is a mixture of gas, it's not pure propane thus the impurities affect the pressuire and fps. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
emp3ror86 Posted April 16, 2012 Author Report Share Posted April 16, 2012 As I did not have time for a takedown this weekend I thought I would at least give a shot to the fix at the magazine spring. Good news is that it seems to work. I wrote seems because I could not test it properly. The reason: Almost hit me in the face. The slide is just too narrow, the plastic is weak. By the way the nozzle has got USP45 markings: It survived the fall without problems. Slidestop started ruining the slide (not like I care about it atm). BTW the trigger is made of steel. I heard that USP triggers tend to brake, this one will not. Still what happened is not the fault of the gun. It was not used on the propellant it was designed for. I can not read the manual but I am sure it is stated in it what gas can be used with the gun. I hope the release of taiwan versions is close. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
emp3ror86 Posted April 16, 2012 Author Report Share Posted April 16, 2012 you have to realize propane is a mixture of gas, it's not pure propane thus the impurities affect the pressuire and fps. I do. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
elanaiba Posted April 16, 2012 Report Share Posted April 16, 2012 Is that nozzle assembly with the 2 springs something characteristic to System 7 USPs ? Because I remember seeing it in old 2006-2007 KSC Usp - the one before System 7. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
-l- Posted April 18, 2012 Report Share Posted April 18, 2012 Emperor, ouch on your slide... hopefully after market metal side is comming soon. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
volante Posted April 18, 2012 Report Share Posted April 18, 2012 I've been in this hobby over 10 years but never seen such horribly damaged slide. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
NonEx Posted April 18, 2012 Report Share Posted April 18, 2012 Check the WE 226 thread, it's a close call between the two Quote Link to post Share on other sites
volante Posted April 19, 2012 Report Share Posted April 19, 2012 Check the WE 226 thread, it's a close call between the two You're right.... But at least WE P226 did not threw 'projectile' to shooter's face Quote Link to post Share on other sites
emp3ror86 Posted April 21, 2012 Author Report Share Posted April 21, 2012 It was close, but not hit me. And I would like to emphasize that this gun was never intended nor designed to work on propane. According to KSC they have not encountered such a case like mine. If the metal slided one will try to hurt me, too, then we can speak about a serious design flaw. But now I am more eager to see Marui's HK45, their plastic is definitely stronger (I had a Night Warrior), I think I am going to get one and torture test it. Same plans with a metal slided KSC HK45. BTW at this weekend I will take apart the barrel, hopup part and show it to you guys here. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
emp3ror86 Posted April 22, 2012 Author Report Share Posted April 22, 2012 As I promised: Spring guide is made of steel, check the magnets on it. Outer barrel is made of plastic. It is cracked as you can see. I think this part is the same as in the USP45, see the markings on it. I do not have an USP so I can not be sure. New hopup mechanism. 2 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
-l- Posted April 23, 2012 Report Share Posted April 23, 2012 You're right.... But at least WE P226 did not threw 'projectile' to shooter's face But WE P226 slide is metal to start with Quote Link to post Share on other sites
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