bankz5152 Posted July 12, 2012 Author Report Share Posted July 12, 2012 That is a nice rifle. It will most likely be at least a month if not 2 before I buy one anyhow. So with any luck parts will be released within this time! Also out of interest on the WOCs has anyone used the 'Hard Recoil Sets'. Just wondering if there would be worth installing or not, obviously without any negative effects. I know the RATech MP7 Hard Recoil set caused the bolt carrier to crack and damaged other internals. Though if the recoil can be increased with no bad side effects then im happy! http://shop.ehobbyasia.com/5ku-aluminum-buffer-hard-recoil-for-wa-m4-series.html http://shop.ehobbyasia.com/5ku-aluminum-buffer-spring-set-hard-recoil-for-wa-m4-gbb-series.html http://shop.ehobbyasia.com/ra-tech-super-recoil-buffer-set-version-3-for-wa-m4-gbb.html Either way does anyone know how it would work? Link to post Share on other sites
gijohn2 Posted July 13, 2012 Report Share Posted July 13, 2012 Id personally avoid using aluminium buffers as they made a mess of my insides by chipping away so i decided to go RS and got this http://www.midwayuk.com/epages/Midway_UK.sf/en_GB/?ObjectPath=/Shops/Midway_UK/Products/553144 Recoil is good enough for me Link to post Share on other sites
bankz5152 Posted July 13, 2012 Author Report Share Posted July 13, 2012 Cheers for that. To be honest I was just intrigued by the notion really. If it works and does not cause any adverse reactions then why not? Link to post Share on other sites
GlockworkOrange Posted July 14, 2012 Report Share Posted July 14, 2012 Hopefully if TM start expanding their GBBRs after the MP7 venture, we'll start to see some really reliable GBBRs, especially if they follow the great design of their newer pistols. Link to post Share on other sites
gijohn2 Posted July 14, 2012 Report Share Posted July 14, 2012 Hopefully if TM start expanding their GBBRs after the MP7 venture, we'll start to see some really reliable GBBRs, especially if they follow the great design of their newer pistols. Very true but i wonder what metal they will use on the parts that wear down? And i wonder if they will make a new gas system instead of the WE/WA system and VFC's version can sod off into a fire also you have a very witty forum name Link to post Share on other sites
dannyeprice23 Posted July 15, 2012 Report Share Posted July 15, 2012 Most reliable? Inokatsu surely? Link to post Share on other sites
gijohn2 Posted July 15, 2012 Report Share Posted July 15, 2012 Most reliable? Inokatsu surely? Steel bolt and aluminium loading nozzle set make it pretty shoddy for the UK's climate, Best combo is aluminium bolt or a lighter zinc alloy with a G&P polymer loading nozzle, super light and work really well in our weather Link to post Share on other sites
WhiteHawksan Posted July 15, 2012 Report Share Posted July 15, 2012 Most reliable? Inokatsu surely? I think one has clearly never owned an inokatsu.... I have, and used several others, you are buying materials and the fact that they did it first. Fit and function are usually a lot rubbish. Link to post Share on other sites
uscmCorps Posted July 15, 2012 Report Share Posted July 15, 2012 From my experience with Inokatsu's ... for as much as you spend on them is inversely proportional to what you get out of them. They are a poster child for "more money doesn't always equate a better product". Link to post Share on other sites
dannyeprice23 Posted July 15, 2012 Report Share Posted July 15, 2012 Aahh. Well I consider myself told Link to post Share on other sites
GlockworkOrange Posted July 15, 2012 Report Share Posted July 15, 2012 Very true but i wonder what metal they will use on the parts that wear down? And i wonder if they will make a new gas system instead of the WE/WA system and VFC's version can sod off into a fire also you have a very witty forum name Well hopefully something a bit tougher than their current GBB metal - after a year or so you can see quite a lot of wear. Haha thanks, just thought it was different to the usual xXimachavXx or snyperzzzzzxx etc. Link to post Share on other sites
Finbarqs Posted July 16, 2012 Report Share Posted July 16, 2012 I have 2 Inokatsu's. True more money you throw doesn't equal a better gun. I've gotten a few thousand rounds before my symptoms started showing: e-clip will jump out. Then I ripped my hop up bucking on accident when I decided to change my thread adaptor. However, if you want a realistic functioning gun, Inokatsu is the way to go. Sure, company is on the brink of closure, but they use great receiver bodies (forged aluminum 7075 - proven) and their internals aren't too bad. My hop up problem was user error, but my eclip jumping out is not. Anyways, I'm getting all the internals reworked, including a newly designed bolt stop to engage on the nozzle bb loader instead of the carrier. The best thing about this is that my internals will be made out of carbon steel heat treated. Nothing will destroy these internals! I bet you it can even handle real live rounds too! Anyways, I also purchased a custom built solid steel buffer to go along with my real DPMS buffer spring that's really really stiff! Combine that with the most realistic bodies shy of an actual colt (which I'm using a real 6920 m4 upper receiver), it'll be the best, most reliable gbbr! (probably not the most efficient, it'll run on co2 of course to get my new BCG to maintain its high rod and 330 fps) Link to post Share on other sites
Utty Posted July 17, 2012 Report Share Posted July 17, 2012 Nothing will destroy these internals! I bet you it can even handle real live rounds too! Dude, don't go there. Link to post Share on other sites
Finbarqs Posted July 17, 2012 Report Share Posted July 17, 2012 Of course it can't Link to post Share on other sites
uscmCorps Posted July 17, 2012 Report Share Posted July 17, 2012 It's just best not to joke about it. In this political climate, especially in the US, you don't even want to have something like that on a forum or the internet in general as such a statement (even an untrue one made in jest) can be used against the hobby. Link to post Share on other sites
Voodoo1 Posted July 17, 2012 Report Share Posted July 17, 2012 Just picked up a G&G combat machine for testing and evaluation. Will be putting it through its paces this saturday so review to follow Link to post Share on other sites
uscmCorps Posted July 17, 2012 Report Share Posted July 17, 2012 Just picked up a G&G combat machine for testing and evaluation. Will be putting it through its paces this saturday so review to follow Curious what that has to do with GBBR's and their reliability. Is G&G making GBBR's now? Did I miss something? Link to post Share on other sites
GlockworkOrange Posted July 17, 2012 Report Share Posted July 17, 2012 Curious what that has to do with GBBR's and their reliability. Is G&G making GBBR's now? Did I miss something? Haha just what I was thinking. I'm pretty sure G&G don't make GBBrs. Link to post Share on other sites
WhiteHawksan Posted July 17, 2012 Report Share Posted July 17, 2012 I'm think they do now, I vaguely remember something about G&G GBBR's Link to post Share on other sites
hwagan Posted July 17, 2012 Report Share Posted July 17, 2012 It's the same concept as the GHK, it contains a very similar looking gearbox. Only seen a brief video on it, but could potentially be compatible? This is all just based on one thing I saw one time on Youtube, but they've definitely made one. Link to post Share on other sites
blingblip Posted July 17, 2012 Report Share Posted July 17, 2012 http://www.google.co.uk/url?sa=t&rct=j&q=&esrc=s&source=web&cd=1&ved=0CEQQtwIwAA&url=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.youtube.com%2Fwatch%3Fv%3D4XO7Fw-mBGA&ei=kbIFUNvqPIOm0QXOkuzZBw&usg=AFQjCNFSWKUGOhEY1C1kZa4Mo2nrsmqG8w Link to post Share on other sites
Voodoo1 Posted July 17, 2012 Report Share Posted July 17, 2012 yes its a new GBBR range. Basically take a G&G AEG and swap gear box for gas mech. So same body and barrel/hop. Initial impressions are mixed - firstly those that care about externals wont like the combat machine version - plastic and G&G markings rather than trades. Personally I dont and plastic bodied are RRP at £150. Blowback is crisp and i rattled two mags on full auto with no noticable cooldown. However there's no bolt catch system so while bolt locks on last round you just swap mags and continue. Personally I like that but thats cos I hate M4 bolt releases. I dont know much about other GBBR systems to compare there. Not had any opportunity for accuracy tests but the AEG combat machines are pretty good and its similar hop/barrel system. Link to post Share on other sites
uscmCorps Posted July 17, 2012 Report Share Posted July 17, 2012 Very interesting! Link to post Share on other sites
ollie_ty Posted July 18, 2012 Report Share Posted July 18, 2012 This is way more interesting than an internally 'accurate' GBB M4 to me. I might have to look into those. Link to post Share on other sites
roguesqd Posted July 18, 2012 Report Share Posted July 18, 2012 Now, if G&G just made it where you stored the green gas in the stock...have the fill valve for the gas on the back of the stock and you could have a fairly decent sized resorvoir. Depending on the stock size, I would think that you could get about 300 rounds or so. Then you could utilize standard AEG mags. Link to post Share on other sites
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