LtDeathSauce Posted August 23, 2006 Author Report Share Posted August 23, 2006 that magazine makes me sick. kinda cool gun though. Link to post Share on other sites
zreaper Posted August 23, 2006 Report Share Posted August 23, 2006 the magazine was the only thing in that pic that didnt make me sick Link to post Share on other sites
The Waco Kid Posted August 23, 2006 Report Share Posted August 23, 2006 That AK looks rather like a Ork/Chaos type bolter. It's interesting to note that the original bolt rifles from GW way back when had a flared/spoon flashhider and a much longer barrel assembly. Anyway if you are going for the "feel" of a bolter then the important thing to get right is the scale. A bolt pistol is more the size of the original Uzi smg. It only looks small because the Marines and Orks who favour it are much bigger than a base line human. The standard bolter would probably work out the size of a FN Minimi Para. They are also very wide guns. A heavy bolter would be twice the width of an M60 at least. On the gas tube/laser emitter side I'd say they could be both. There are modern laser kits that replace the recoil spring guide on Glock & other pistols and fulfill both functions without increasing the external dimensions of the weapon. This idea could be extended to a Rifle. Link to post Share on other sites
LtDeathSauce Posted August 24, 2006 Author Report Share Posted August 24, 2006 Anyway if you are going for the "feel" of a bolter then the important thing to get right is the scale... ... laser kits... <{POST_SNAPBACK}> Yeah, this project, since 40k is something I love, will probably be pretty cool. Now all I need is 2 G3 SAS to get started with... <sarcasm>anyone got a spare high end AEG lying around?</sarcasm> lol. anyway, since this is going to be a stormbolter, the scale should be okay... Please though, if anyone can think of an inherent problem, let me know, because I will probably forget something important. Link to post Share on other sites
LtDeathSauce Posted August 26, 2006 Author Report Share Posted August 26, 2006 Need I say more? EDIT: stupid internet. Link to post Share on other sites
LtDeathSauce Posted October 21, 2006 Author Report Share Posted October 21, 2006 Since I am in the market right now for a new AEG, Just thought i'd post here. Anyone think a Sar Offizer would be to long? I think it probably would... but idk... opinions? Link to post Share on other sites
Mike_West Posted October 21, 2006 Report Share Posted October 21, 2006 Well R8 (UTG G3 Commando)? So you won't feel sorry for chopping it up? Link to post Share on other sites
LtDeathSauce Posted October 21, 2006 Author Report Share Posted October 21, 2006 Actually, I wont be doing any chopping. Mainly because the G3 SAS has plenty of places to mount stuff. I can attach a bolter shell to the side rail mounts and through the stock pin holes. Link to post Share on other sites
ED-SKaR Posted October 21, 2006 Report Share Posted October 21, 2006 my AK to bolter conversion http://www.btinternet.com/~joppa/ED-SKaR/DSC_0001.JPG some of you will remember the thread a whyle ago about "who got the most broken gun" and i put the same pic up in that. it hasent changed scince, so this project may take a whyle.....lol Link to post Share on other sites
Justin! Posted October 22, 2006 Report Share Posted October 22, 2006 If you complete this project, i will boil my testicles. Link to post Share on other sites
ED-SKaR Posted October 22, 2006 Report Share Posted October 22, 2006 If you complete this project, i will boil my testicles. <{POST_SNAPBACK}> by the time i finish this project, your testicles may not exist anymore anyway. Link to post Share on other sites
Inventor Posted October 22, 2006 Report Share Posted October 22, 2006 Why doesn't anyone have sugested to make two moulds and then encasing an AEG inside?...wouldn't be it much easier? (and stronger?) Link to post Share on other sites
LtDeathSauce Posted October 22, 2006 Author Report Share Posted October 22, 2006 Uhm, that's what I'm doing... and btw Justin!, Ill keep the water ready. Link to post Share on other sites
Oliver Twist Posted October 22, 2006 Report Share Posted October 22, 2006 So I've been posting on this forum for a while now, with my terminator sig, and I thought I was pretty much alone in the world of shared interest between 40K and airsoft. Guess not. Anyway,I think you would have much better luck basing this off of a new Terminator storm bolter. Cant find any good pictures online, but I imagine you must know what they look like. I think you will find these to be some of your biggest problems: With a bolter, there is semi decent space to have an inner barrel, but the Storm Bolter only fuctions in "real 40k life with physics" by using rocket propulsion instead of gunpowder, because the length on storm bolter barrels is only a few inches. That said, the magazines will be mounted so close to the muzzel that accuracy becomes a real question, so, needless to say, you will need to have some short tightbores and some nice internals if you want any semblence to accuracy. That said, this is a great project, and if you use a newer version of the storm bolter, you will have alot of flat spaces to mount rails and a lot of internal space in which you can mount some huge batteries (all the better for larger ROF, which, when combined with two barrels equals my new lawn mower) My last question is: have you considered using gas for this? I know you prefer to use AEGs, but it seems to me that using gas gives you two pluses: 1) You could modify the gas gun internals to include a fuctioning blow back bolt on the exterior, with, for instance, a "modern" storm bolter drum magazine, you could fabricate a huge gas reserve and a large amount of ammo too. If it were me, I would probably go about building an alluminum frame around two KSC Glock 18Cs with long inner barrels and the slide modified so a lightweight bolt on the outside actually functioned. To fit the glocks in housing, I'd remove their hand grips so the magazines fed into the bolt directly. Assuming your a flipping genious, I'd set the storm bolter magazines up with what remains of the two original glock magazines sticking out of the top. These would go into the pistols in the storm bolter. This is where it gets complicated: The two stick magazines would have to be cut off, and you would have to engineer a large gas resovoir that would occupy the rear half of the drum or box magazine (dangerous project it seems) but this resovoir would be connected to the tops of the two original magazines by either a tube or whatever. It gets trickiest when you figure out how to feed two GBB magazines from a high cap simultaniously. If it were me, i would get the internals from to M16 High caps and but them in the storm bolter magazien so the winds were at the bottom and they faced upwards and into the remainder of the glock magazines... if you get what I mean. Perhaps I was wrong about that beign the trickiest part. You would have to work out a trigger and a hand guard that would pull the triggers on both the glocks at the same time, which, I suppose could be pretty simple. After that, you just pop your magazines in, *ohh! fun part here* cock you storm bolter with the bolts on the outside, and pull the trigger: ahem: dakkadakkadakka. Link to post Share on other sites
LtDeathSauce Posted October 23, 2006 Author Report Share Posted October 23, 2006 Gas... ugh. the problem i have with gas is that if something breaks... you HAVE to get a new part. with an AEG, you can usually just repair the wires or something. Link to post Share on other sites
ED-SKaR Posted October 23, 2006 Report Share Posted October 23, 2006 a gas stom bolter is to die for....... and unless you have serious tools, and a hell load of experience in such matters, not to be attemted. as for the short barrel lenght, use G3 higcaps and put them in backwards!!! instant 2 inches more for the barrel Link to post Share on other sites
LtDeathSauce Posted October 23, 2006 Author Report Share Posted October 23, 2006 that is quite smart... and the gas thing is really true... SAS is on the way! *shivers with excitement* Link to post Share on other sites
Oliver Twist Posted October 24, 2006 Report Share Posted October 24, 2006 Well, I guess I got shot down ! I'll live though. Anyway, didnt think about reversing the mags, thats a great idea! Link to post Share on other sites
HardCoil Posted October 25, 2006 Report Share Posted October 25, 2006 I played around with a SAS and an AK mag the other day. If you can mod the SAS to take AK mags you are really goddamn close. Also adding that full length top rail to it might be worth looking into. Link to post Share on other sites
LtDeathSauce Posted October 25, 2006 Author Report Share Posted October 25, 2006 Now that is an ingenious idea. I even have spare AK mags! Hardcoil strikes again! And oliver, it is a good idea... just not a practical one. Link to post Share on other sites
L4byr1nth Posted October 25, 2006 Report Share Posted October 25, 2006 Get the layax rail sleeve that mounts to the top of G3 SAS (thus removing the ironsights). You're pretty damn close with that. Link to post Share on other sites
Cyber Soldier Posted October 25, 2006 Report Share Posted October 25, 2006 I saw a storm bolter conversion made from 2 Maruzen MP5KA4s once. I can't imagine a real storm bolter making more noise than than the airsoft one. Link to post Share on other sites
LtDeathSauce Posted October 26, 2006 Author Report Share Posted October 26, 2006 Yeah, but that is the infinite arguement of Fluff vs Everything. The tabletop game isn't fluffy, and almost everyone animates bolters firing out shells, even if they are supposed to be miny rockets. Link to post Share on other sites
Cyber Soldier Posted October 27, 2006 Report Share Posted October 27, 2006 They do spit shells. The brass case contains the propellant to get the round out of the barrel. Then once it has left the integral rocket fires and the round speeds away towards the target. Similar to the way an AT4 fires. Link to post Share on other sites
LtDeathSauce Posted October 28, 2006 Author Report Share Posted October 28, 2006 I know I know, but in some of the fluff they are actually caseless rockets. I know they shoot shells out most of the time, but my point is that the fluff conflicts with the fluff. For now, I just follow whats on the Wiki. Imperium Equipment Link to post Share on other sites
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