fal Posted March 27, 2005 Report Share Posted March 27, 2005 unless you want the charging handle to be plastic, being fully metal will weigh quite a bit to cycle by gas. personaly I would go with full metal charging handle with slow cycle. Link to post Share on other sites
enzo100 Posted March 27, 2005 Report Share Posted March 27, 2005 How much is it running for? Link to post Share on other sites
Antagon Posted March 27, 2005 Report Share Posted March 27, 2005 I believe they said somewhere at or under 500usd? Link to post Share on other sites
Kommandant_Keen Posted April 4, 2005 Report Share Posted April 4, 2005 I don't think it uses a mag at all, I think the clip is real and used for show mainly, like the old TM Gas Mp5, where you could use the shells for show. <{POST_SNAPBACK}> Apparently a retailer from the other side of the world said they do have shells. Sweet gun i must say. I'm simply looking for a place in Vancouver, B.C. where I can buy it!! Link to post Share on other sites
Tarnish Posted June 3, 2005 Author Report Share Posted June 3, 2005 I notice that Marushin now has reference to the M1 on its website. The (bizarre!) Babelfish translation appears to indicate a release to retail at the end of July. Marushin M1 webpage Images from Sanken Link to post Share on other sites
EvilCookie Posted June 3, 2005 Report Share Posted June 3, 2005 Thanks for the pictures tarnish, much appreciated. I do hope this rifle holds a gas resevoir inside or else these "clips" are going to be mighty expensive. Link to post Share on other sites
Crazy_Harry Posted June 3, 2005 Report Share Posted June 3, 2005 it also seems to be blummin' pricey- $500 plus last time I converted the projected price in yen. It'd better be spectacular for that sort of cash. Link to post Share on other sites
Tarnish Posted June 3, 2005 Author Report Share Posted June 3, 2005 Thanks for the pictures tarnish, much appreciated. I do hope this rifle holds a gas resevoir inside or else these "clips" are going to be mighty expensive. <{POST_SNAPBACK}> There's been some discussion about the gas issue already. My guess would be that it will be in the butt with refill access through the butt trap door. I can't see how a clip would be able to have a large enough gas capacity to cycle the action in addition to firing the BB. Also looking at the picture of the clip it does appear to me that it is only designed to hold the BBs. Link to post Share on other sites
EvilCookie Posted June 3, 2005 Report Share Posted June 3, 2005 Sounds good. As long as purchasing extra clips doesn't cost as much as the rifle itself, its all cool. Any word on how many shots you can get out of eahc gas fill? Link to post Share on other sites
Tripod Posted June 4, 2005 Report Share Posted June 4, 2005 It only holds 8 BBs. How big does it need to be? Link to post Share on other sites
Tarnish Posted June 4, 2005 Author Report Share Posted June 4, 2005 It only holds 8 BBs. How big does it need to be? <{POST_SNAPBACK}> You've missed the point. Some people are under the impression that the clip will contain the gas resevoir not just the BBs. I feel that is not likely as I doubt a clip could be designed that would hold enough gas to operate a blowback mechanism. My guess is the resevoir will be located in the butt. Link to post Share on other sites
seth Posted June 4, 2005 Report Share Posted June 4, 2005 I would say, a good question would be if it's internals are sturdy enough to take green gas. .34 8mm BBs and 134A isn't what I want to take out into a field vs. sniper rifles and AEGs. Marushin has shown in the past by their revolvers that the internals leak/crack under the pressure of green gas, and if this is the case here, the low practicality of such a weapon and $500 USD price tag would overshadow the "cool factor." Link to post Share on other sites
EvilCookie Posted June 4, 2005 Report Share Posted June 4, 2005 Well if the rifle's quality is as good at the mossberg series or the M1 carbine, it should be able to take green gas just fine. You'll just have to disable the overflow valve if there is one. Link to post Share on other sites
Lance Jackass Posted June 4, 2005 Report Share Posted June 4, 2005 I wouldn't try and do anything that will void your warranty mate. Link to post Share on other sites
Tripod Posted June 5, 2005 Report Share Posted June 5, 2005 You've missed the point. Some people are under the impression that the clip will contain the gas resevoir not just the BBs. I feel that is not likely as I doubt a clip could be designed that would hold enough gas to operate a blowback mechanism. My guess is the resevoir will be located in the butt. <{POST_SNAPBACK}> The clip is at least 6.4cm high. Then it's at least 10mm wide. It looks to be about 2-3cm deep. The reservoir is probably going to be more than big enough to fire off 8 BBs and cycle a bolt. Hell, if I'm wrong then I'm wrong. They would have said something about a gas reservoir in a stock I think. less moves on this thing than a typical GBB. Link to post Share on other sites
BakaBox Posted June 5, 2005 Report Share Posted June 5, 2005 The clip is at least 6.4cm high. Then it's at least 10mm wide. It looks to be about 2-3cm deep. The reservoir is probably going to be more than big enough to fire off 8 BBs and cycle a bolt. Hell, if I'm wrong then I'm wrong. They would have said something about a gas reservoir in a stock I think. less moves on this thing than a typical GBB. <{POST_SNAPBACK}> But storing gas in something that is going to be thrown out and hit the ground isn't a good idea. The magasine will be heavier with a small tank, resulting in more damage on impact. The reservoir itself might withstand it, but the valves can start to leak. Link to post Share on other sites
EvilCookie Posted June 5, 2005 Report Share Posted June 5, 2005 I wouldn't try and do anything that will void your warranty mate. <{POST_SNAPBACK}> Well good advice if you order it locally. Though since it is likely that I will have to order overseas, I doubt I'd be willing to send it back and spend the money for shipping if anything should go wrong. Link to post Share on other sites
Tarnish Posted June 5, 2005 Author Report Share Posted June 5, 2005 The clip is at least 6.4cm high. Then it's at least 10mm wide. It looks to be about 2-3cm deep. The reservoir is probably going to be more than big enough to fire off 8 BBs and cycle a bolt. Hell, if I'm wrong then I'm wrong. They would have said something about a gas reservoir in a stock I think. less moves on this thing than a typical GBB. <{POST_SNAPBACK}> Well there's nothing in the picture of the clip I potsed that indicates to me that there is a gas resevoir in it. All I can see is the bare metal BB stowage and forward of that it is empty space. Still like you say "if I'm wrong then I'm wrong", we'll both find out for sure when they release this little beauty! I don't want to wish the weeks away but.... Link to post Share on other sites
Lance Jackass Posted June 5, 2005 Report Share Posted June 5, 2005 Ah point taken evilcookie lol. Link to post Share on other sites
LordShigeru Posted June 5, 2005 Report Share Posted June 5, 2005 the 8 bb capacity was a realy let down for me. it really doestn seem like this gun could be used as anything other then a sniper rifle now, and even that is assuming it can take green gas. i think marushin was foolish to make it realistic over useful. Link to post Share on other sites
Catchv22 Posted June 5, 2005 Report Share Posted June 5, 2005 I think this is more of a collector's item. I can't even skirmish with 8mm bbs (non-'biodegradable'), so this has no practical use for me. However, as a collector's item, I think it should shine as it has the actual en bloc clip to fly out after you pump out 8 rounds. If I were to skirmish with a Garand, I'd prefer an AEG anyway for ease of maintenance. Link to post Share on other sites
LordShigeru Posted June 6, 2005 Report Share Posted June 6, 2005 the reason for skirmishing for it opposed to using an aeg is that it makes the perfect markmen type rifle for woods. the heavy .46 bbs shouldnt have much problem getting through thin brush, something not so easily accomplised by .25 Link to post Share on other sites
Tarnish Posted June 6, 2005 Author Report Share Posted June 6, 2005 I think this is more of a collector's item. I can't even skirmish with 8mm bbs (non-'biodegradable'), so this has no practical use for me. <{POST_SNAPBACK}> Marushin are releasing 8mm bio BBs later this year perhaps around the same time as the M1. Link to post Share on other sites
Crazy_Harry Posted June 6, 2005 Report Share Posted June 6, 2005 marushin have always produced stuff that is more "collectible" than "practical" - look at the t2 shotgun, or the kar98k, or even their revolver line-up. They occasionally get it spot on, such as with their m500 range, or the m1 carbine. the garand seems to be somewhere in the middle- for the price, I would expect (nay, demand) it to be as near-as-dammit accurate and powerful as a tanaka m700, otherwise, whats the point? it's an expensive luxury. saying that, whens that ever stopped people from buying airsoft stuff? never Link to post Share on other sites
EvilCookie Posted June 6, 2005 Report Share Posted June 6, 2005 Heh you got that right Harry. I'm interested in getting one and skirmishing with it against AEG totting baddies. Just hope when it hits the Hk streets the price is right. BTW is it confirmed that the "clip" only holds 8 bbs? I could have sworn I read somewhere that it was going to be 12. Link to post Share on other sites
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