allizard Posted December 23, 2008 Report Share Posted December 23, 2008 KWA UPDATES THREE POPULAR MODELS WITH NS2 GAS DELIVERY SYSTEM City of Industry, CA – December 22, 2008 – KWA USA today announced updates to three popular handgun models; M93R, KP45, and KP8 Compact. All three models have been redesigned to incorporate the new KWA NS2 gas delivery system currently used in the Professional PTP series pistols. The NS2 internal gas delivery system is a KWA patented design and is found exclusively on KWA manufactured products. The new system utilizes an advanced lightweight composite gas piston with a two-stage internal expansion chamber that delivers the gas more efficiently than that of its predecessors. The NS2 design increases the weapon cycle rate and also provides for a crisp, realistic blow back action. Muzzle velocity is increased and shots are more consistent due to the new design and tighter tolerances. The magazines have also been redesigned to be an integral part of the NS2 gas system. The new magazines are now a one-piece construction milled from solid alloy billet. This new construction strengthens the magazine’s structural rigidity and increases pressure carrying capacity. The new KWA M93R, KP45, and KP8 Compact are available now at all KWA USA Authorized Resellers. Manufacture suggested retail price for the pistols are $269.95 for M93R, $219.95 for KP45, and $189.95 for the KP8 Compact. The actual retail price may vary. All KWA products include a 45 days warranty. About KWA USA KWA USA is the exclusive North America importer and master distributor for KWA products. Based in City of Industry, California, KWA USA is dedicated in providing high performance products and exceptional services to the North American airsoft industry. For information: http://www.kwausa.com Contact: sales<DON'T POST EMAIL ADDRESSES>kwausa.com Phone: 1-626-581-1777 ### Link to post Share on other sites
RedScare Posted December 23, 2008 Report Share Posted December 23, 2008 kinda want the KP8 Link to post Share on other sites
tosuzu Posted December 23, 2008 Report Share Posted December 23, 2008 Interesting. Want M93R Link to post Share on other sites
Lectric Posted December 23, 2008 Report Share Posted December 23, 2008 Want the M93. Link to post Share on other sites
crusader4x Posted December 23, 2008 Report Share Posted December 23, 2008 I'm now interested in a KP45 but am wondering if KWA has packaged the newer models differently so I can differentiate them from older store stock pistols. Link to post Share on other sites
pistonhead Posted December 23, 2008 Report Share Posted December 23, 2008 interesting... too bad they wont be updating any glocks grrr... Link to post Share on other sites
Azulsky Posted December 23, 2008 Report Share Posted December 23, 2008 Allizard, your pics, they died! Link to post Share on other sites
junior Posted December 23, 2008 Report Share Posted December 23, 2008 Even though it's a new gas system, I must admit that these new guns coming out are pretty boring. It's like seeing Western Arms come out with 1911 after 1911 and charging more and more for each one... Put this innovative new gas system in a M&P 40, H&K P2000, Taurus 24/7 or a SA XD. Something we haven't seen before in a GBB airsoft form, but has a high presence in the LEO and military scene.. ________ I'm also still curious as to why someone would want to buy this KWA version instead of the trademarked KSC version for roughly the same price (shipping accounted for)? Curious to hear some thoughts on this... Link to post Share on other sites
massoh2 Posted December 23, 2008 Report Share Posted December 23, 2008 I don't like how the retail prices are nearly doubled... At this price point, there are other options, not to mention the fact that these newest offerings aren't very special. It's not like they come with trades, KSC quality, improved accuracy or whatnot. If anything, I heard that this newer gas system, while giving more power, has worse cool down issues compared to the older models. I don't get the excitement. It's hardly warranted. Whoop-dee-doo. Link to post Share on other sites
Horsem4n Posted December 23, 2008 Report Share Posted December 23, 2008 it has LESS cool down. you can pop off a whole mag in that M93r from beginning to end without a drop in pitch and it will lock back. the downside to the system is the gas usage. they are the SUVs of the GBB world. Link to post Share on other sites
MCXL Posted December 23, 2008 Report Share Posted December 23, 2008 Nothing can use more gas, and have less cool down. That doesn't make sense. Link to post Share on other sites
Horsem4n Posted December 23, 2008 Report Share Posted December 23, 2008 well, it doesn't make sense, but that's the way the guns function believe it or not... Link to post Share on other sites
MCXL Posted December 23, 2008 Report Share Posted December 23, 2008 I doubt that, Maybe the gas chamber is smaller, so the mag acts as more of a heat sink. Thus making it seem like more of a gas hog. Link to post Share on other sites
felix4536 Posted December 23, 2008 Report Share Posted December 23, 2008 whats the difference between this and the new system 7 ??? is there going to be a final system?? or are they going to keep changing the mags and make better versions?? Link to post Share on other sites
junior Posted December 23, 2008 Report Share Posted December 23, 2008 whats the difference between this and the new system 7 ??? is there going to be a final system?? or are they going to keep changing the mags and make better versions?? NS2 is to KWA, like System 7 is to KSC... I believe. Mags should work and be the same between the 2 brands. Link to post Share on other sites
whosloosin92 Posted December 23, 2008 Report Share Posted December 23, 2008 Nothing can use more gas, and have less cool down. That doesn't make sense. Ever heard of a GHK Ak74? The gas reservoir is huge compared to WA/WE M4s and therefore can get a full 50 rounds of before stuttering. It's very possible that these guns not necessarily use more gas per shot but hold a lot of gas. Instead of making the mags from soft zinc they are now made from solid billet which could mean it now has thinner walls and a bigger reservoir. Link to post Share on other sites
RedScare Posted December 23, 2008 Report Share Posted December 23, 2008 I get all 50 rounds and a few seconds more on my GHK AK. Pretty awesome. If i try to empty a mag as quickly as I can on my M9 PTP, sometimes the slide wont lock back. It might be due to the fact I dont know when the mag is full of gas... Link to post Share on other sites
chris u'5 Posted December 23, 2008 Report Share Posted December 23, 2008 Even though it's a new gas system, I must admit that these new guns coming out are pretty boring. It's like seeing Western Arms come out with 1911 after 1911 and charging more and more for each one... Put this innovative new gas system in a M&P 40, H&K P2000, Taurus 24/7 or a SA XD. Something we haven't seen before in a GBB airsoft form, but has a high presence in the LEO and military scene.. ________ I'm also still curious as to why someone would want to buy this KWA version instead of the trademarked KSC version for roughly the same price (shipping accounted for)? Curious to hear some thoughts on this... I really agree with this. I'd love to see an improved variety of models available, I feel things are becoming quite stale as far as the GBB pistol market is concerned. Yeah it's a new gas system but it doesn't really seem groundbreaking does it? As many before have commented the prices have taken a pretty big increase. On a purely selfish note and with the current exchange rates, these price hikes are making it harder and harder as a UK based airsofter for me to justify buying new GBBs. If I felt something special was being done then sure I would happily cough up but this really doesn't excite me much at all. Link to post Share on other sites
sherony Posted December 23, 2008 Report Share Posted December 23, 2008 Why wont anyone make a Makarov? This is getting ridiculous. More 1911's, Glocks, USP's, and M92's. Where is my Makarov? Link to post Share on other sites
thartwig Posted December 24, 2008 Report Share Posted December 24, 2008 There hasnt been a NEW glock in ages lol... well except for the for that shell ejecting g21, but it hardly has a market as it is. I'd rather just wait for a new TM pistol. Link to post Share on other sites
Horsem4n Posted December 24, 2008 Report Share Posted December 24, 2008 TM still has that 5.7 coming. Link to post Share on other sites
TooBigToFit Posted December 24, 2008 Report Share Posted December 24, 2008 Even though it's a new gas system, I must admit that these new guns coming out are pretty boring. It's like seeing Western Arms come out with 1911 after 1911 and charging more and more for each one... Put this innovative new gas system in a M&P 40, H&K P2000, Taurus 24/7 or a SA XD. Something we haven't seen before in a GBB airsoft form, but has a high presence in the LEO and military scene.. ________ I'm also still curious as to why someone would want to buy this KWA version instead of the trademarked KSC version for roughly the same price (shipping accounted for)? Curious to hear some thoughts on this... For those that don't care about trademarks, the metal slide of the KWA is worth it. I'm into the trades though. Link to post Share on other sites
junior Posted December 24, 2008 Report Share Posted December 24, 2008 There hasnt been a NEW glock in ages lol... well except for the for that shell ejecting g21, but it hardly has a market as it is. I'd rather just wait for a new TM pistol. What do you mean by new? As in new company replicating Glocks? Or new models? KSC released a few new Glock models this year to add to the lineup... Link to post Share on other sites
thartwig Posted December 24, 2008 Report Share Posted December 24, 2008 What do you mean by new? As in new company replicating Glocks? Or new models? KSC released a few new Glock models this year to add to the lineup... They did? What model of glock were they???? Link to post Share on other sites
Horsem4n Posted December 24, 2008 Report Share Posted December 24, 2008 it was those gold medal glock 34s. Link to post Share on other sites
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