frogfish Posted September 1, 2009 Report Share Posted September 1, 2009 Link says all, don't know a thing about it. http://www.ebairsoft.com/steel-made-ak74-b...ion-p-2488.html Link to post Share on other sites
ST19AG_WGreymon Posted September 1, 2009 Report Share Posted September 1, 2009 Nooooo! Just about to post this! I'm buying one. Sadly, no fake piston. Link to post Share on other sites
jond36 Posted September 1, 2009 Report Share Posted September 1, 2009 nice Link to post Share on other sites
ST19AG_WGreymon Posted September 1, 2009 Report Share Posted September 1, 2009 How hard would it be to weld a piston on there? Link to post Share on other sites
Jumprefusal Posted September 1, 2009 Report Share Posted September 1, 2009 Doesn't the GHK only recoil about half that distance? Link to post Share on other sites
Pinkfloyd Posted September 1, 2009 Report Share Posted September 1, 2009 Doesn't the GHK only recoil about half that distance? Yeah but it's got a small plastic stop in it that really helps to cushion the moving parts. Mine is realllyy reliable, love that gun to death. I wouldnt buy a clone tho, I've seen how AGM M4's are and theyre total sh!t, tho I guess the WA's are too. GBBR's just really need TLC unless theyre a quality build, and so far the GHK has been great. Only concern is the hopup which is plastic and the bolt head, tho both of which seem to be made out of good quality ABS. Link to post Share on other sites
frogfish Posted September 1, 2009 Author Report Share Posted September 1, 2009 My GHK has about 2 inches to spare, but that has been taken by a big piece of rubber. Link to post Share on other sites
Pinkfloyd Posted September 1, 2009 Report Share Posted September 1, 2009 My GHK has about 2 inches to spare, but that has been taken by a big piece of rubber. Mines like a semi hard plastic. Is yours squishy? Link to post Share on other sites
frogfish Posted September 1, 2009 Author Report Share Posted September 1, 2009 Kinda sorta, I guess semi-hard plastic would more accurately describe it. It's hard, but has some give. Link to post Share on other sites
Cliffor Posted September 1, 2009 Report Share Posted September 1, 2009 Can't wait to hear if this is junk or not. I've always wanted a GBBR, so a drop kit this cheap would be amazing if it's of good quality. Link to post Share on other sites
DamnLion Posted September 1, 2009 Report Share Posted September 1, 2009 hmm, so with the purchase of a Dboys/Kalash AK for ~$150, thats a DIY GHK Kit for ~$300. not bad, and definitely tempting, but I think I'll wait for WE's solution, given their recent pricing scheme Link to post Share on other sites
MDK_Marshal Posted September 1, 2009 Report Share Posted September 1, 2009 Oh, for gods sake.... WHY DO I OWN A 47??? ;_; Link to post Share on other sites
The General Posted September 1, 2009 Report Share Posted September 1, 2009 Hmmmm extra mags are how much, bb capacity? Link to post Share on other sites
MDK_Marshal Posted September 1, 2009 Report Share Posted September 1, 2009 GHK mags are about £35 in the UK at the moment, so I'd expect the clone ones to be on par with a chineese hicap; IE, £15-£20 when shipped to the UK, dirt cheap when in china. Though, there's only so far you can drive the price down on something complex like a Gas mag. Link to post Share on other sites
Marlowe Posted September 1, 2009 Report Share Posted September 1, 2009 Given that a GHK needs most of the major internal components replacing with RA-Tech parts, I'm exceptionally wary about this as a 'cheap' alternative. Expect to budget another £100 or so on replacing the externals with quality reinforced components - presuming it's even compatible (can't view from work so I can't comment). Link to post Share on other sites
snorkelman Posted September 1, 2009 Report Share Posted September 1, 2009 thing is you're not having to spend 250 bucks on a GHK kit (thats a bugger to find now in kit form anyway) in order to throw 90 percent of it away now you get to spend 140 bucks or so, and if the fire control parts are steel then you actually have a fair few less bits to throw away buy a new DG or RAT bolt carrier, and a new RAT npas bolt you might even be able to buy an RAT or DG hop chamber as it looks like this kit is using the old style hop, so the bits you need to scrounge from supplied hop to complete those will have a good chance of fitting.. Link to post Share on other sites
ST19AG_WGreymon Posted September 1, 2009 Report Share Posted September 1, 2009 I hope the reviews are good. It's almost too good to be true. I wonder when the DBOYs GBB kit will come out, it has the gas piston. Link to post Share on other sites
snorkelman Posted September 1, 2009 Report Share Posted September 1, 2009 not sure if the dboys has the gas piston or not Only photo of it thus far was an external shot where cant actually tell one way or the other.. Also bear in mind the gas piston will also require a slightly different bolt carrier from standard GHK ones - if dboys bolt carrier is pot metal or cast steel and you want a decent CNC'd one to replace it, then Im not sure if the RAT steel carrier is available to buy in 'can attach gas piston' version as a standalone part? Link to post Share on other sites
WhiteHawksan Posted September 1, 2009 Report Share Posted September 1, 2009 This is pretty interesting as it says steel made I'm going to presume that its all steel, in which case theres a good chance that you can save most of the parts. Will be interesting to see some reviews of this. Link to post Share on other sites
ST19AG_WGreymon Posted September 1, 2009 Report Share Posted September 1, 2009 not sure if the dboys has the gas piston or not Only photo of it thus far was an external shot where cant actually tell one way or the other.. Also bear in mind the gas piston will also require a slightly different bolt carrier from standard GHK ones - if dboys bolt carrier is pot metal or cast steel and you want a decent CNC'd one to replace it, then Im not sure if the RAT steel carrier is available to buy in 'can attach gas piston' version as a standalone part? I'm talking about this thing: http://www.arms-cool.net/forum/thread-40618-1-1.html From this thread: http://www.arniesairsoft.co.uk/forums/inde...howtopic=171851 They didn't say who makes this one. I thought it was DBOYs, guess not. Supposedly it's cheap, $120-ish. Link to post Share on other sites
azsworst Posted September 2, 2009 Report Share Posted September 2, 2009 Snorkal man, any parts you recommend replaceing besides the bolt? Can these take AEG barrels? Forgive my ignorance... Link to post Share on other sites
1st Commando Posted September 2, 2009 Report Share Posted September 2, 2009 I was about to buy one of these last night until we realised they are not in stock yet Link to post Share on other sites
frogfish Posted September 2, 2009 Author Report Share Posted September 2, 2009 I've seen many of the parts break over on the threads on www.gasguns.info. I would replace the hammer, valve knocker, and there is another piece that prevents the gun from firing without the bolt in it, can't remember what it's called. Not to mention the springs break, but can be replaced with ones made of piano wire. I ended up getting the whole daytonagun kit ($300), hopefully it all holds together, I'm still not so sure about a plastic hop-up and steel/aluminum bolt group. Link to post Share on other sites
1st Commando Posted September 2, 2009 Report Share Posted September 2, 2009 The missus just ordered one for my birthday so I guess that's me doing a review Link to post Share on other sites
snorkelman Posted September 2, 2009 Report Share Posted September 2, 2009 reason those break is they're usually made of some of the cheapest naffest pot metal known to man and quite inconsistently too (so you end up with ###### grain structure air pockets etc on some of them and those give out in no time) If the hammer etc on this one are steel (even roughly cast) then those should hold up OK as they arent under a lot of stress - just more than the roughest of the original pot metal ones could handle main two parts Id wait n see on are the bolt and the bolt carrier theres soooo little metal supporting the screws that limit the bolts travel within the carrier that a carrier ran off from anything short of cnc'd billet is just asking for probs - and this one has a bolt carrier that looks like its been pretty roughly cast. Time will tell wether it holds up or not (ie I wouldnt run out and buy one at same time as the kit but Id certainly budget for the need to go out and buy a decent carrier in worst case scenario) Main issue with the original style plastic hop unit is actually the tab underneath next to the BB feed that trips the BB release on the mags rather than contact with the nozzle. Cause of the angle the mags get inserted at and way it was originally designed its a wee bit more prone to snapping the tab than it could be, and a snapped one would prevent the mag from releasing BBs into the feed. Link to post Share on other sites
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