Souske Posted April 26, 2007 Report Share Posted April 26, 2007 (edited) Yep, it's a UMP, as its receiver is much more angular than the MP5. Ah, this is my kind of thread. I happened to have a bunch of random US army SF pictures around. The guy to the right (in the blue) was Earl Filmore. People who has read Bowden's BHD should know who this is. CAG operators providing PSD for 'Stormin Norman' in Desert Storm. One of my favorites... A still shot taken from a video. CAG operators practicing raiding a building....while wearing blue jeans. And a funny picture...Green Beret operator testing out AA a couple years back while still operating in A-stan. Edited April 26, 2007 by Souske Link to post Share on other sites
HeuteGegangen Posted April 26, 2007 Report Share Posted April 26, 2007 Are those guys in the third pic rangers? Link to post Share on other sites
Souske Posted April 26, 2007 Report Share Posted April 26, 2007 There's no way to know for sure, as there was no specifics about the picture. They could be ODA or Rangers. Link to post Share on other sites
BARsrule2 Posted April 26, 2007 Report Share Posted April 26, 2007 (edited) Is that a MICH 2002? Where does one find a replica? <{POST_SNAPBACK}> Carter I think that is a standard MICH 2000, but if you still want the 2002 airsoftextreme.com carries them. You can get the 2000's there as well. Edited April 26, 2007 by BARsrule2 Link to post Share on other sites
trfo2o Posted April 26, 2007 Report Share Posted April 26, 2007 this thread is awesome. Keep it up guys. Earl Filmore is using an OPS CAN!! awesome Link to post Share on other sites
HeuteGegangen Posted April 26, 2007 Report Share Posted April 26, 2007 Some green direct action training stuff: Link to post Share on other sites
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dolla billz Posted April 26, 2007 Report Share Posted April 26, 2007 If theyre wearing RLCS gear and 5point norotos mounts theyre Rangers. Link to post Share on other sites
HeuteGegangen Posted April 26, 2007 Report Share Posted April 26, 2007 I like that teched out SAW the dude with the norotos is rocking, guess those M4 stocks are getting popular. Wonder when we'll see an airsoft replica? Link to post Share on other sites
tinkle60 Posted April 26, 2007 Report Share Posted April 26, 2007 Just a couple pics I had hosted already. A bunch of us at Beltring: and TA2 Did a photoshoot recently, so should have some more for you guys soon. Link to post Share on other sites
HeuteGegangen Posted April 27, 2007 Report Share Posted April 27, 2007 I love these older woodland photos, impressions based off them are just so much more practical. Link to post Share on other sites
HeuteGegangen Posted April 27, 2007 Report Share Posted April 27, 2007 SF use a lot of personally obtained equipment, but what are (or were) they issued? Special Operations Forces Equipment Advanced Requirements (SPEAR) Overview: Special Operations Forces Equipment Advanced Requirements (SPEAR) is the United States Special Operations Command’s (USSOCOM) modernization effort for the joint (Army, Navy, and Air Force) Special Operations Forces (SOF) operator. SPEAR will focus on four areas of improvement in personal equipment from 1996 - 2005 including body armor and load carriage. SPEAR’s Body Armor/Load Carriage System (BALCS) consists of body armor, an equipment load carrying subsystem, and a backpack subsystem. Description: The BALCS maximizes ballistic protection, buoyancy compensation, and load carrying capacity, while minimizing the burdens of weight, bulk and heat stress. The BALCS components are: Body Armor: Provides protection against fragmentation, handgun, and rifle threats. The armor system contains a soft armor vest; front and back inteinterchangeable upgrade plates, and modular neck and groin protection. The neutrally buoyant soft vest is available in four sizes (S-XL); plates are sized with the vest. Approximate weight of a Medium vest is 6.5 lbs.; the Medium plates are approximately 6 lbs. each. Equipment Load Carrying Subsystem (ELCS): The modular pocketing and harness system (H-Harness or Vest) allows mission tailoring of load and system configuration. The ELCS is compatible with the SPEAR Body Armor and Backpack Subsystem, and provides optimum compatibility with individual equipment and weapons. The positive buoyant ELCS comes in one size, and features easy adjustments for shoulder, waist, and chest. Backpack Subsystem: The modified commercial Backpack Subsystem contains a backpack, patrol pack, and butt pack. The backpack’s state-of-the-art internal frame affords a stable platform sufficient to carry 120 lbs. effectively. The backpack transfers load efficiently from the shoulders to the waist and provides adjustments to fit the 5th - 95th percentile male SOF operator. The butt pack attaches to ELCS or the backpack; the patrol pack attaches to the backpack, and is compatible with the other SPEAR BALCS components. The one size subsystem weighs 17 lbs. Load capacity are as follows: * Backpack: 120 lbs. * Patrol pack 50 lbs. * Butt pack: 13 lbs. M4A1 SOPMOD (Special Operations Peculiar Modification to M4 Carbine) * Knight's Armament Company (KAC) Rail Interface System (RIS) forearm * KAC's vertical foregrip * KAC's backup iron sight (BUIS) * Trijicon's Model TA01NSN 4x32mm Advanced Combat Optical Gunsight (ACOG) * Improved combat sling which allows for secure cross body/patrol carry. * Insight Technology's AN/PEQ-2 Infrared Target Pointer/Illuminator/Aiming Laser (ITPIAL) * Insight Technology's Visible Light Illuminator (VLI) * Trijicon's Model RX01M4A1 reflex sight * KAC's quick-detach sound suppressor (QDSS) * KAC's quick-attach M203 grenade launcher mount * Quick-attach sight for use with the M203 * M203 with a 9-inch barrel * Insight Technology's AN/PEQ-5 visible laser * Carrying/storage case for kit accessories SFLCS (Special Forces Load Cary Equipment?) I know a lot less about this one, though it seems to be a big grab bag of Eagle Industries kit in Khaki. Some key points of interest are: * Low vis armor is made by Safariland and not Paca * Plate Carriers seem to have sewn in soft IIIA armor which cannot be removed from the carrier without modification. That means you're less likely to see RRV and Back Plate Carrier combos, as well as Plate Carrier and Low Vis Armor combos which were commonly used by SEALs as well as Force Recon Batalions * CIRAS issued is Maritime version, not Land. Link to post Share on other sites
tinkle60 Posted April 27, 2007 Report Share Posted April 27, 2007 Forgot to mention that the backpack system sucked *albatross* and soon after SPEAR was issued the UM-21s were all over ebay. If you look closely the SFLCS also contains some coyote brown gear. Also, according to the owner of the gear in those pictures not all of it is from Eagle. The kit is also updated from time to time with smaller revision packs. Link to post Share on other sites
HeuteGegangen Posted April 27, 2007 Report Share Posted April 27, 2007 Backpack did indeed suck *albatross*, a lot of rucks got switched out with modded ALICE packs. That's a whole other ballgame though, there are so many mods, straps, and replacement frames to talk about. Here's mine: Pocket Mods were done at General Jackson's, outside of Fort Bragg. Frame is a cut down civvy plastic frame, which saw much use by SF teams a few years back. Not sure what the hell the padding's from. Where did you get the info about there being CB gear in there? I've handled Eagle's CB up close and it doesn't look anything like what's in that bag. Link to post Share on other sites
tinkle60 Posted April 27, 2007 Report Share Posted April 27, 2007 (edited) From the guy who took those photos and to whom the kit was issued, on the lightfighter forum. If you look at the photos then you'll see that the shingles, leg panels and the MAP are coyote brown. Edit: M4Guru is his username and here's the list for SFLCS: Modular assault pack MBSS pouch w/ light holder MBSS pouch w/o light holder x2 war belt suspenders sub belt holster adapter x2 horizontal pouch adapter x2 squad casualty bag 19 round shotgun pouch SR-25 mag pouch x4 3 mag shingle x6 barrett pouch x2 drop leg panel MBITR pouch x2 breachers tool carrier with covers Maritime CIRAS Concealable BALCS carrier neck collar, yoke, cock plate plate carrier with cummerbund/sewn in soft armor inserts Rhodesian Recon vest Ranger H-harness SFLCS deployment bag...bigger than 5 NATO bags Hydration carrier 4X canteen/Nalgene pouches FB 9mm single mag pouches x10 rigid NVG PVS-15 pouch 2x med pouch BOK x2 weapons catch x2 shock tube pouch charge pouch frag pouch x4 detatchable lid 200rd SAW pouch x2 100rd SAW pouch X1 M4 Double(4) magpouch x12 M4 single(2) magpouch x12 signal pouch pop flare upright pop flare inverted gas mask pouch single point leg panel MLCS medical utility pouch shotgun pouch 24rd padded MOLLE belt To confirm that you said about the plate carriers and the colour, I quote: It has no armor in the cummerbund. The soft armor in the vest is cut to fit the Eagle PC profile, not just a plate backer, and sewn directly to the vest i.e. non-removable. All of it is in Coyote Brown except the CIRAS is in MJK. Never trust the colours from a camera, especially when taken indoors under flash. Edited April 27, 2007 by tinkle60 Link to post Share on other sites
HeuteGegangen Posted April 27, 2007 Report Share Posted April 27, 2007 Well, a few M4 Pouches in that pile have my name on them now. I'll confirm the colors when I get 'em. Link to post Share on other sites
tinkle60 Posted April 27, 2007 Report Share Posted April 27, 2007 You mean from the exact pile? how d'u manage that? Link to post Share on other sites
HeuteGegangen Posted April 27, 2007 Report Share Posted April 27, 2007 I'm just cool like that . The Guru only caters to the most high speed posers, didn't you know? Link to post Share on other sites
tinkle60 Posted April 27, 2007 Report Share Posted April 27, 2007 Ah I see, my motto is low speed high drag. Link to post Share on other sites
scooberoo Posted April 27, 2007 Report Share Posted April 27, 2007 http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v446/tin.../Picture018.jpg Did a photoshoot recently, so should have some more for you guys soon. <{POST_SNAPBACK}> That Olka MBSS patrol pack matches the signature Ranger Green vests of the Rangers. Slick! Too bad they are now out of stock. Link to post Share on other sites
CaRaBuS Posted April 27, 2007 Report Share Posted April 27, 2007 Perhaps a stoopid question. I see some photos of operators in Woodland uniforms are these old phots or do they still use Woodland for green areas over the ACU???? ACU seems to work in Iraq, I don't want to start a debate over which is best, just interested if Woodland is still used/prefered for "Green" areas? Thanks in advance Carabus Link to post Share on other sites
Catch22 Posted April 27, 2007 Author Report Share Posted April 27, 2007 Alot of the photos of SF in woodland on the first page are recent. Link to post Share on other sites
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tinkle60 Posted April 27, 2007 Report Share Posted April 27, 2007 (edited) That Olka MBSS patrol pack matches the signature Ranger Green vests of the Rangers. Slick! Too bad they are now out of stock. <{POST_SNAPBACK}> Are Olka rebranded Luckyfish too? I got mine direct from the manufacturer who definitely wasn't Olka. Maybe it's trick of the light, because I've had it right up next to ranger green and it's definitely a darker shade of green. Edited April 27, 2007 by tinkle60 Link to post Share on other sites
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