Pablo Posted August 13, 2007 Report Share Posted August 13, 2007 Looks pretty much like an early M249E1 to me... http://www.uwyo.edu/armyrotc/cadetresource.../fm225/appf.pdf I say an early model, as the heatshield was (as you say) adopted later on by the US - early versions didn't have it. They also had the tubular stock. CA call their version an M249MK1, though if you google that you just get loads of references to the CA gun . Any real experts out there who can confirm whether it should be called an M249 or not? Link to post Share on other sites
Korppi Posted August 13, 2007 Report Share Posted August 13, 2007 I stand corrected. Link to post Share on other sites
Pablo Posted August 13, 2007 Report Share Posted August 13, 2007 I stand corrected. <{POST_SNAPBACK}> I'd like another opinion or two though, I could be wrong. Link to post Share on other sites
Korppi Posted August 13, 2007 Report Share Posted August 13, 2007 You seem to be right, the sights are same in A&K and E1. Link to post Share on other sites
Tarnish Posted August 13, 2007 Report Share Posted August 13, 2007 The Minimi "Mk1" is externally the same as the version that originally entered service with the US armed forces in the mid to late 1980's. Looking through some of my pictorial books I have on the 1991 Gulf War all the US M249s are of the "Mk1" variety, the M249E1 as previously stated by Pablo. Post 1991 the modifications that make the M249 into the "Mk2" appearance were introduced by the US namely the solid stock, and the revised forward furniture and heat shield. The Minimi in the "Mk1" form was also used by UK special forces during Gulf War 1. The long and the short of it is yes it can be called an M249. It just means that if you're putting together period US uniform and gear to match it will need to be late 1980's to early 1990's vintage, the "Blackhawk Down" look for example. I'm in two minds about this A&K offering. I want to get at least one more AEG before the VCRB comes into force and I'm torn between and Minimi Mk1 or Para, an AGM MP40 or perhaps an L1A1 SLR if King Arms and Star ever get their acts together. Link to post Share on other sites
gafes Posted August 14, 2007 Report Share Posted August 14, 2007 The three version are on preorde at ASGI. $399 dlls. not too much but i expected a little bit less. M249 Para M249 MKII M249 MKI Link to post Share on other sites
bigking Posted August 14, 2007 Report Share Posted August 14, 2007 Can someone confirm which is full metal body or not... coz in Hong Kong the price which is like 120 GBP But... i believe that the next gun will GPMG Link to post Share on other sites
Tarnish Posted August 14, 2007 Report Share Posted August 14, 2007 Yes it would appear from the description on RSOV to have a metal body. Link to post Share on other sites
joeshred Posted August 14, 2007 Report Share Posted August 14, 2007 hate to spam, check my mini review http://www.arniesairsoft.co.uk/forums/inde...view=getnewpost Link to post Share on other sites
Laxplayer19x93 Posted August 14, 2007 Report Share Posted August 14, 2007 The three version are on preorde at ASGI. $399 dlls. not too much but i expected a little bit less. M249 Para M249 MKII M249 MKI <{POST_SNAPBACK}> I was expecting it to be a little less than $400.... Link to post Share on other sites
rsov Posted August 14, 2007 Author Report Share Posted August 14, 2007 I was expecting it to be a little less than $400.... <{POST_SNAPBACK}> so we are happy bunny !! Link to post Share on other sites
GI0VANNI Posted August 14, 2007 Report Share Posted August 14, 2007 I was expecting them tp be more numerous, not only two But really like the MK1 look, that is the stock I want for my babys, snifs Link to post Share on other sites
Destroyer 105 Posted August 16, 2007 Report Share Posted August 16, 2007 OMG do want! Link to post Share on other sites
gun griffin Posted August 16, 2007 Report Share Posted August 16, 2007 i dunno if any ones noticed but actionhobbys have the A&K M249 MK1 , MK2 , PARA on pre order for £200 each Action hobbys Link to post Share on other sites
evilliboba Posted August 17, 2007 Report Share Posted August 17, 2007 i dunno if any ones noticed but actionhobbys have the A&K M249 MK1 , MK2 , PARA on pre order for £200 each Action hobbys <{POST_SNAPBACK}> *Does the money math* That is actually a great price for you guys. Cheaper than HK with shipping and tax really. Link to post Share on other sites
gun griffin Posted August 17, 2007 Report Share Posted August 17, 2007 Actionhobbys p&p is about £8.99 and as trouser twitching a thought of a £208.98 M249 is i can see the waves of im amz t3h l33t SAW men coming A&K have made M249 Whoring affordable (Yayz!!) btw assuming you did'nt have to pay import duty on it it would probably work out cheaper to buy from RSOV £166.99 to be exact ... Link to post Share on other sites
Night_raven Posted August 17, 2007 Report Share Posted August 17, 2007 Actionhobbys p&p is about £8.99 and as trouser twitching a thought of a £208.98 M249 is i can see the waves of im amz t3h l33t SAW men coming A&K have made M249 Whoring affordable (Yayz!!) btw assuming you did'nt have to pay import duty on it it would probably work out cheaper to buy from RSOV £166.99 to be exact ... <{POST_SNAPBACK}> Not to ###### on your fire or anything but: Isn't that ... Elitism? *only men with lots of money can buy SAW weapons* A&K have made a clone M249,.. so what? It means, those who want to have a go at the support role, can do so, without spending £300 odd on a Star Support weapon. Link to post Share on other sites
Rapier Posted August 17, 2007 Report Share Posted August 17, 2007 Difference is they will have one that works with an A&K! And it's not elitism, it's wanting to avoid having half th people on the field using a support weapon. I don't care if you payed $400 or $4000 for your saw, I realy don't want anymore than one per squad on the field or it just gets silly and realy not a lot of fun. "Ok, I want the SAW squad to go to the intersection at grid 345 678 and lock it down. Anyone respawning on red team will have to come threw there, so if you get there and lay down fire we'll have this game in the bag." Would you want to be red team? Link to post Share on other sites
Dat1Guyx342 Posted August 18, 2007 Report Share Posted August 18, 2007 This worry about a flooding with SAW's was talked about months ago, its quite funny that it's being brought up again. Link to post Share on other sites
Brother Decimus Posted August 18, 2007 Report Share Posted August 18, 2007 its ridiculous if you ask me. I have yet to see it be a problem. The tokyo marui m14 is a great out of the box weapon. It has now become very affordable, especially for a TM weapon. Have more people bought m14s? Yes. Has it become a problem? No. Any gun can put out a great rate of fire. What it looks like makes no difference. Link to post Share on other sites
sekiryu Posted August 18, 2007 Report Share Posted August 18, 2007 Isn't that ... Elitism? *only men with lots of money can buy SAW weapons* Seconded. I find that true of alot of real steel owners and their thoughts of airsoft too. I would love to see these cheap SAWs everywhere, just to laugh when the kid can't lug it around, and we flank his *albatross*. Link to post Share on other sites
davecymru Posted August 18, 2007 Report Share Posted August 18, 2007 The argument against having a lot of SAWs on the field is irrelevant as far as airsoft goes (in my opinion and not knocking anyone else!) What "benefits" does an airsoft SAW have? It's the same power as most AEGs, it has the same rate of fire as any upgraded AEG and it's got the same accuracy as an AEG. That just leaves it with a larger magazine capacity, and the probability that the gearbox is going to last longer when going a little bit postal during a skirmish. Personally, I'm more worried about the cheepo cloned box mags rather than the cloned SAWs! Now we can get all the spray-n-pray kiddies replacing a loadout bristling with hi-caps with a loadout carrying a FEW box mags. Now that is unfair! So rather than limit it to one SAW per team, limit it to one box mag weapon per team as i know a few people with upgraded AEGs who occasionally use a box mag on them and work quite effectively in a support role! Also, if you take into account that these latest clones are full steel as well, any "kiddie" who buys one to just run around with is soon going to learn that the extra weight and lack of manouverability is a bit of a biggie! I was more concerned with the Star SAWs due to those being light(er)weight plastic which removed one of the traditional support gunner obstacles of weight. And while, yes, there are more support guns on the field than there used to be, I don't see that as a massive issue, after all aren't we ALL there for (how did miniman phrase it?) "a suspension of reality"? You strap a large capacity battery to your MP7, or upgrade your rate of fire to 1million BBs per second, i'll dual wield SAWs! Link to post Share on other sites
Rapier Posted August 18, 2007 Report Share Posted August 18, 2007 Ya, that's the way the people out here feel. We don't even allow box/drum mags unless you are using an honest to got support weapon. And I should have made a statement that I realy don't see a $400 Saw as an issue. It's still pricey enough that it will keep people away. Link to post Share on other sites
Pablo Posted August 18, 2007 Report Share Posted August 18, 2007 My wife's offered to buy me one as a christmas/birthday present. Happy days! Now which one to get... Link to post Share on other sites
ollie_ty Posted August 18, 2007 Report Share Posted August 18, 2007 Got to be the MK II ! On that subject, anyone know when RSOV will get it in? Link to post Share on other sites
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