HC Airsoft Posted October 2, 2008 Report Share Posted October 2, 2008 Normally I consider my role on the field more of a DM, but this issue directly concerns all those who feel the need for more range from their airsoft. Heavyweight bbs are disappearing from the market. Straight's .36 and .43 are sold out everywhere that I have checked, as is the ammo of choice for my M14, the KSC .3 gram perfect. I was told about a month ago that KSC would resume production of these heavyweight bb's, but so far they have not. Am I the only one with a dwindling bag of heavy bb's who is concerned their favorite rifle may become nearly useless due to a complete lack of heavyweight ammo? Link to post Share on other sites
scar527 Posted October 2, 2008 Report Share Posted October 2, 2008 Magnum bb company is coming out with .36's in a trial run soon. No need to worry about .3s as they r everywhere. Link to post Share on other sites
HC Airsoft Posted October 2, 2008 Author Report Share Posted October 2, 2008 I apologize if I don't hail a completely unknown company's trial run as the solution to a major hole in the market. ksc .3's are available "everywhere"? if you could kindly point me in the direction of any online store currently stocking ksc .3's I'd be very appreciative. Link to post Share on other sites
scar527 Posted October 2, 2008 Report Share Posted October 2, 2008 Exscuse me for just pointing that out. Try poweredge usa for the ksc's. And when i said .3o's i never said ksc . There are many other brands that make good quality .30's. BTW you can alwayse ask in the bb discussion thread where to buy. And magnum bb isnt unkown here on arnies, although they are fairly new. I have talked to them and there bb's will be heviweight and the same quality or better as sgm's. I never insulted you at all so i would appreciate it if you would lay off . Link to post Share on other sites
RSM Posted October 2, 2008 Report Share Posted October 2, 2008 How's about you both calm down? Tis the internetz afterall. Anyway, the reason for heavy weight (.3+g) BBs drying up is that the manufacture of these BBs by Japanese manufacturers has been made redundant because of the 0.98J law in Japan whereas we would tend to use .36s in rifles firing at 2.12J with a .2. I imagine its perhaps a degree of Japanese culture for them to just discontinue the .36s and .43s than bother making smaller batches for international export. Straight .3 (non teflon) are out there from Hong Kong, not sure what availabilities like in the states though. Link to post Share on other sites
HC Airsoft Posted October 2, 2008 Author Report Share Posted October 2, 2008 Im sorry, I really wasnt trying to be venomous. I appreciate anything anyone has to say in response to my post. More than anything else Im upset that something I sort of took for granted has completely disappeared from the market. What other brand .3gram bbs do you recommend, and where can I buy them? Link to post Share on other sites
RSM Posted October 2, 2008 Report Share Posted October 2, 2008 Cobra Airsoft sell Straight .3s Begadi sell Xtreme .3s (very nice BBs) but not too sure if they ship to the US. Unless you have a reason not too use them, most people would reccomend the .29 SGM as an alternative. Link to post Share on other sites
scar527 Posted October 2, 2008 Report Share Posted October 2, 2008 No problem m8, i am just fed up with some people because of there rudness to people they have never met before in my life. So no worries, i apologize for being venomouse back. But asRSM daid the fps laws in japan have seveerly affected our heviweght bb's. But magnum bb is a us based company and if you talk to him he may let you trial his bb's! So send him a pm if you are interested. Link to post Share on other sites
HC Airsoft Posted October 3, 2008 Author Report Share Posted October 3, 2008 but to answer the question, do you recommend any other brands of .3? Ive tried straight's .3 and didnt like them. I've also tried the TSD .28 and they were just awful. and where might I be able to get some quality .3? or is there a store with ksc .3 left in stock? Link to post Share on other sites
scar527 Posted October 3, 2008 Report Share Posted October 3, 2008 I would say the maruzen SGM's as they are the best made bb's on the market. I personally LOVE THEM but they are a bit pricy at $20 for 500bb's Link to post Share on other sites
HC Airsoft Posted October 3, 2008 Author Report Share Posted October 3, 2008 theyre too expensive! I can accept that in the absence of ksc .3's I might have to spend more money, but that's several times more cost per shot. Is there an acceptable .3 that isn't so damned expensive? Link to post Share on other sites
MagnumBB Posted October 3, 2008 Report Share Posted October 3, 2008 Its all in the Cost of the material used to make the bb and each company's process. I'm not stating this as fact, but if you look at SMG's, the reason they are so great is because they have a 2 stage plastic process with a "heavy" core and a precision coating, which leads to a better than normal consistency. Extra work for 100,000 bb's costs allot. Now imagine that on a larger scale. In making Heavy weight bb's you have limited routes to hit the weight you want. You can shove more material in the small space or change the material used with a matching specific gravity. I went with the different material route because Its the only way I can reliably create my specs. Polystyrene or Polypropylene will only go so far, which is why .28's are common. Granted, SMG's are roughly 5.96mm on average. If you bump the material and increase the size to 5.98mm, your gonna hit the mark. I thought about starting with .30's first, But It seems people need more weight behind their bb's, so my .36's will be first, followed by .40g, .43g and .3g, (not in that order) What I would like to do is develope a Bio .3g, .36g, .40g and .43g line of bb's. But money is tight and I'd rather not be one of the 80% of businesses that fail in 4 years. Link to post Share on other sites
scar527 Posted October 3, 2008 Report Share Posted October 3, 2008 Well said magnum bb. Its your lucky day HC airsoft http://www.poweredgeusa.com/product.asp?Ca...114&ID=3783 Link to post Share on other sites
SniperSidd Posted October 3, 2008 Report Share Posted October 3, 2008 I was going to order two Mags of the KSC .3s from Poweredge but they wanted $20 to ship the BBs. I have two bags of Toyjet .29bbs on order from Ehobby so hopefully those don't suck to much. Other wise Madbull makes a good BB if you can find the .3s and I was also going to grabe a bag of the G&G .28s for a trail I will post my findings Link to post Share on other sites
HC Airsoft Posted October 3, 2008 Author Report Share Posted October 3, 2008 I ordered the remaining 7 bags that power edge had in stock. Lets pray it comes through. HUGE THANKS to Scar! Link to post Share on other sites
Bodgeups Posted October 3, 2008 Report Share Posted October 3, 2008 Alternatively, you can buy Xtreme BB's from Airsoft World (also known as Airsoft Scotland). Link to post Share on other sites
scar527 Posted October 3, 2008 Report Share Posted October 3, 2008 Yeah but shipping is WAY expensive to the u.s. Link to post Share on other sites
gisburn20 Posted October 3, 2008 Report Share Posted October 3, 2008 Have you tried Guarder's "0.28g High Precision Made" They come in 3500 round bags, and seem very good in my BAR-10, nearly as good as the 0.36 staights, but a heck of a lot cheaper! Jim Link to post Share on other sites
Senor Bear Posted October 3, 2008 Report Share Posted October 3, 2008 I used guarder .28s in my vsr for a while (350 fps with .2), but REALLY noticed the difference when moving to SGMs. If you don't want to spend the extra cash, so be it. Link to post Share on other sites
bjorn Posted October 3, 2008 Report Share Posted October 3, 2008 My vote goes to Xtreme Prcision 0.30g bb-s without a doubt. You just cant get any better price for that quality. Still waiting for Magnum BB-s to hit the market. I do not even want to take my sniper rifles out of the closet if I cant use decent quality heavyweight ammo with them. Bjorn Link to post Share on other sites
silent_soul Posted October 6, 2008 Report Share Posted October 6, 2008 it sounds like this has turned from what to do about heavy bbs going away, and more to whats a cheap fix. last i checked being a sniper was about the most expensive position, next to the geardo dmr guy on a team. so why opt for the cheap and or easy way out? 15-20s for 500 bbs is fine when those 500 are all great bbs and sgm's are about as good as it gets, i use them in my 600fps maruzen so heavier bbs arent a must but help in highwind situations. Link to post Share on other sites
bean Posted October 8, 2008 Report Share Posted October 8, 2008 A Canadian company is planning on making heavier weight bb's on a preorder basis. Link to post Share on other sites
Bodgeups Posted October 8, 2008 Report Share Posted October 8, 2008 A Canadian company is planning on making heavier weight bb's on a preorder basis. And this company would be...? Link to post Share on other sites
noodels Posted October 10, 2008 Report Share Posted October 10, 2008 .29 SGM are available from Xfire (PDI) for 15$. Link to post Share on other sites
TheBauer Posted October 10, 2008 Report Share Posted October 10, 2008 .29 SGM are available from Xfire (PDI) for 15$. the topic is heavy bb's Link to post Share on other sites
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