M821A1s Galore!

[Pendra]

~when you do get it into a decent embedded position to 'snipe' then the guys toting the infinitely lighter/svelter VSRs and L98s have you zeroed AND outranged

Not true with the VSR mod...

 

 

~what you have is little more than a normal AK/M4/G3 with 20 extra needless pounds bolted to the outside, meaning your even slower in a firefight and owned twice before you drag the muzzle up to point.

Not entirely true. While it is not more than an AK/M4/G3 with extra weight you just need to find a good supported firing position. You will be able to aim without problem. However forget unsupported aiming with any decent accuracy, unless you are Arnold Swarchenegger. The gun is heavy AND poorly balanced. It is extremely nose heavy, unless you put 5kg extra weight to the stock (there is space to do so).

 

As for sales, never underestimate the FUN, the HOO HAA and the NOONE HAS THAT AROUND factor.

[L4byr1nth]

Also, when this comes out, I'm dreading another step back from the realism aspect of airsoft...

 

How often in real steel do you see guys with Barret .50 Cal's acting as support gunners?

 

But, with a hicap/boxmag and an internal overhaul, I bet we'll see a few of these on skirmish fields with ACOG's and 30 rounds per second.

 

Ben.

 

EDIT: I've got to say, also, that at least the clone manufacturers are making something we want for a change, instead of more M4's and G36's.

[masakarijoe]

i think that an m82, while cool and very useful in reality, wouldnt mesh well in airsoft. however, an M95 bolt gun would be useful, and much lighter.

i say someone make that

pendra: really cool design. i like how it will accelt a VSR, thats pretty nifty.

-Joe

[Shinden]

The M82 market should focus more on long range and accurate shots while combining that with realistic features as :

 

-Gas Charged Shells with BB round on tip. Fires one round with CO2 cartridge and eject spent shell, blowback and load next round.

-Gas Charged gun to power recoil of outer barrel for added realism and recoil shock

-Allows dissasembly for easy maintenance.

 

Otherwise a regular AEG type M82A1 will be only for an aesthetic value and nothing worthy of the large gun. It can be tuned to become a full auto fire AEG with high FPS, but with all the large parts used on the M82A1, it is not interesting now especially with the consumers wanting a more realisitc operating rifle like the new blowback rifles.

 

I prefer to actually have SOCOM GEAR tread slowly in this new direction and start thinking about making the M82 more distinct to thier company rather than making it an AEG (like how HURRICANE used to make a conversion kit)

 

It should be reliable to the point where it makes sense to the user unlike Smokey's Barret model (manual reload and had couple problems) and have more realisitc action and features unlike VFC's ( it had non blowback, but used 8mm).

 

Somehow a hybrid of a shell gas charged Barret with both recoil, blowback, and long range accuracy (power as well) will make the SOCOM GEAR Barret a worthy product to own. It's a niche gun in airsoft, so it has to be even more special and distinct to sell something like this.

[Armourpiercing]

...That none of you will ever buy.

 

You'll all troll the forums, drooling over the pictures, discussing what loadouts to use with it, etc.

 

The manufacturer will release the internal specs and final prototype pictures, and you'll all be debating the proposed effective range, what weights of BB to use with it, how you're going to paint/camo it, what brand of ammo to get and where to buy it etc.

 

Then, the manufacturer will release the final price, and you'll all go;

 

"I'll wait for somebody to clone it for cheaper".

 

Then, when a clone of this design finally comes out, it'll be a rushed, unfinished, useless product, requiring much work to get it to shoot in a straight line. None of you will buy that either, and pretty soon, this will be discontinued, like all the good stuff on WGC Shop and other places.

 

That's how it normally goes, isn't it?

 

Ben.

 

+1

I'm guilty of that every time.

AP.

[magaz]

I think the biggest problem everyone i overlooking... is getting it into your car for the trip to your site I know for sure it's not going in my Seicento...

[Pablo]

I dunno, drop the seats and open the glove box....

[brianhess]

any news or updates on these m82a1s?

 

the nice thing about a gun like this, it would definitely complete a collection. i'm looking to fill my armory with all US army guns.

[Weirdguy]

Soon, every airsoft field will look like this

 

[m98man]

Soon, every airsoft field will look like this

http://img526.imageshack.us/img526/6851/50calre2.jpg

 

 

 

And all of them will be filled with "That Guy"s like the one making the "Derrr" expression in the middle.

 

 

And all of them will be whining about how heavy the damn thing is.

 

 

Believe me, I'm all for an M82 being made... Just not an AEG one. That's heresy, if you ask me.

[brianhess]

if its a v2 gearbox, replace it with a gbb one--or a co2 if they're still around.

 

there isn't any companies currently running a line of m82s?

[Kristoffer]

1: make a reliable, long range (200-300 meters) laser-tag system with sensors that can be mounted on cars, radar-installations, helicopters, airplanes, any high priority target that you would want to destroy with a .50 from long range. Extra sensors should be readily available, relatively afordable. Add some kind of noice-making device on sensors and gun, a little recoil mech and you'll have lots of fun.

 

2: Mount in M82, and any other portable device that can be used as a weapon designated to take out said targets at bigger games. I think this would make for a really enjoyable role at bigger scenario games. Berget etc. Also, people who like this kind of play are usually not the average "want cheaper clone" or "Omg I can't possibly carry this beast all day", they are people who don't mind paying for something that would enhance the game.

 

I honestly think that this kind of gun would sell more, and see more use than a 9-12kg, 1.4 meter long 6mm bb sniperrifle ever would, no matter what its performance was.

 

And yes, I have owned one of VFC's M82's, and they are totally useless, not so much because they suck at the shooting bit, but because they are big, heavy beasts. I skirmish with shoei MG3, Escort M60E3 Long, Asahi minimi, so heavy guns are rather familiar to me. But none of these guns are as useless as the M82 when it comes to airsofting.

[Pendra]

Laser tag marker, interesting idea! How about an rifle grenade style self contained add-in system?

Imagine a flashlight with 25mm diameter lens with 2,5x magnification and a high power, very low half angle IR diode. Push it into the muzzle from the front, and lock it with a pin. It will be fired by big padded switch at the end cap by actually firing BBs at it. It should make the 200m. The high FPS BBs will probably crack at such close hits, but it would not make any damage to the internals since the outer barrel tube is big, hollow, and has plenty of space for debris.

This way you can have a simple laser tag marker installed over the standard airsoft internals in like 10 secs. You retain every aspect of the airsoft gun except it will shoot IR beams instead of BBs. The BBs disintegrate inside the barrel to fire the beam. You will have the normal reload, the further amplified airsoft gun sound, normal AS internals. And after the removal of the IR flashlight, the gun will behave like your regular AS gun again.

Meanwhile I decided to experiment with a simple AEG to CO2 gas conversion and a mechanical blowback to have the absolutely frickin ultimate M82 system. What do you think about this feature list:

- AEG internals:

V3 gearbox with AK grip (done)

MP40 gearbox with M4 grip (tested OK)

AK, M4, G3, MP40 hopup (done)

blowback based on this idea:

(experimental)

- Springer internals:

VSR with M4 grip (done)

Special hopup chamber that spins the BB on the directional axis instead of the backward, to emulate the effects of a rifled barrel. (design done)

- Gas internals:

VSR gas bolt with this CO2 regulator: http://www.arniesairsoft.co.uk/forums/inde...howtopic=154418 (3rd party)

A rock simple Gearbox to CO2 drop in conversion (design done)

- Laser tag addon:

Slide in, BB switched, "flashlight" IR transmitter for "Long range scenario objective" shooting

 

All that can be and will be installed (except maybe the rifling emulator) at one point. Anything else this Barrett should have and I missed?

 

 

 

[BigAl]

Nah, this is the one they should make.