Svack Posted February 19, 2009 Report Share Posted February 19, 2009 on a lighter note, I want both of the guns and a set of MBUS sights! Link to post Share on other sites
1st_shooter Posted February 19, 2009 Report Share Posted February 19, 2009 cant wait for the FMG that should be a top priority but considering i just spent £500 on 2 glock 18c's that shall be sick! from wgc i might have to start saving again. Link to post Share on other sites
junior Posted February 19, 2009 Report Share Posted February 19, 2009 As much as I like Magpul's products, I have to agree that I can't really get excited until the products hit the shelf. That FMG-9 is simply awesome. Its on the top of my long list of fantasy vaporware guns that were dangled in front of us that we may in fact never see. The #2 spot is held down by the Kriss we were supposed to be seeing from Madbull.. Those bastards! Link to post Share on other sites
NeoVeNoM Posted February 19, 2009 Report Share Posted February 19, 2009 IN my experience with Magpul PTS products, it's simple. It's worth the wait. BTW Magsz, nice speech. Besides, all those here who are craving for an ACR, If this AEG actually hits the shelves, I am wondering if you're actually going to buy it. I remember the A&K minimi flood. Everybody wanted one! To be honest, I haven't seen much of it in the field, ACM armalites, MP5s etc... yes alot of them. But the minimi? nope. Link to post Share on other sites
Magsz Posted February 19, 2009 Report Share Posted February 19, 2009 IN my experience with Magpul PTS products, it's simple. It's worth the wait. BTW Magsz, nice speech. Besides, all those here who are craving for an ACR, If this AEG actually hits the shelves, I am wondering if you're actually going to buy it. I remember the A&K minimi flood. Everybody wanted one! To be honest, I haven't seen much of it in the field, ACM armalites, MP5s etc... yes alot of them. But the minimi? nope. Well said. The internet is the largest window shopping paradigm in the world. Everyone wants everything until it comes down to actually clicking add to cart and then entering credit card information. Everyone is also far too ready to condemn and point fingers when products arent released according to their own PERSONAL time schedules. Sorry but thats not how the world works. I am excited about the idea of the ACR. If it never sees fruition it never sees fruition and i will be disappointed but i at least know that on some level Magpul PTS is doing their best to innovate and produce something we will all cherish. Link to post Share on other sites
alexishere2008 Posted February 20, 2009 Report Share Posted February 20, 2009 what's with all the UBR rage? lawl Link to post Share on other sites
Vercingetorix Posted February 20, 2009 Report Share Posted February 20, 2009 It looks cool and is from magpul, must be awesome and totally worth it /sarcasm But yeah, looks mainly. What I really want is that ACS stock, mainly because of the wiggle free friction lock thingy and sopmod style cheeckweld (I have an Real Vltor Emod EMOD but it wobbles on most AS buffers ). Link to post Share on other sites
cazboab Posted February 20, 2009 Report Share Posted February 20, 2009 As far as the ACR is concerned I can't see it being much better than the ACM masada with regards to anything but availability(overlooking the obvious difference between an ACR and the earlier version masada the ACM replicates), the lack of a price so far to me either indicates its too far from completion to hazards a guess, or if you have to ask you can't afford it. Magpul PTS are more than welcome to prove me wrong though. Link to post Share on other sites
Vercingetorix Posted February 20, 2009 Report Share Posted February 20, 2009 From looking at the name, I thought it would be a PTW. Lets hope not...... Isn't it the being called the PTSW or something? Link to post Share on other sites
uscmCorps Posted February 20, 2009 Report Share Posted February 20, 2009 It looks cool and is from magpul, must be awesome and totally worth it /sarcasm But yeah, looks mainly. What I really want is that ACS stock, mainly because of the wiggle free friction lock thingy and sopmod style cheeckweld (I have an Real Vltor Emod EMOD but it wobbles on most AS buffers ). The wiggle problem will most likely persist with the ACS Stock. The problem isn't because of the stock... it's because most AEG buffer tubes are slightly out of spec (slimmer than a Mil-Spec buffer tube). Magpul stocks come in two flavors, Mil-Spec and Commercial Spec. Mil-Spec is narrower than Commercial Spec. If you put a Mil-Spec stock on an AEG buffer tube it'll wiggle. If you put a Commercial Spec stock on an AEG buffer tube it'll wiggle a LOT. However, when I put my Magpul Mil-Spec CTR on my G&P GBB SR16's buffer tube, the friction lock was really solid and wiggle free. Conclusion: if you're using a standard AEG buffer tube, you'll get wiggle issues with pretty much all stocks including the ACS (most likely). Link to post Share on other sites
TANGO91 Posted February 20, 2009 Report Share Posted February 20, 2009 The wiggle problem will most likely persist with the ACS Stock. The problem isn't because of the stock... it's because most AEG buffer tubes are slightly out of spec (slimmer than a Mil-Spec buffer tube). Magpul stocks come in two flavors, Mil-Spec and Commercial Spec. Mil-Spec is narrower than Commercial Spec. If you put a Mil-Spec stock on an AEG buffer tube it'll wiggle. If you put a Commercial Spec stock on an AEG buffer tube it'll wiggle a LOT. However, when I put my Magpul Mil-Spec CTR on my G&P GBB SR16's buffer tube, the friction lock was really solid and wiggle free. Conclusion: if you're using a standard AEG buffer tube, you'll get wiggle issues with pretty much all stocks including the ACS (most likely). I thought the point of Magpul PTS was to develop Magpul products to airsoft specs, meaning that the PTS CTR stocks should fit with out wobble right? does anyone have more information on this? Link to post Share on other sites
Reborn Posted February 20, 2009 Report Share Posted February 20, 2009 Looks good. I'm starting to like their M4 accessories. I just might buy one of those new KA M4A1s and customize it with some PTS parts. Link to post Share on other sites
Vercingetorix Posted February 20, 2009 Report Share Posted February 20, 2009 The wiggle problem will most likely persist with the ACS Stock. The problem isn't because of the stock... it's because most AEG buffer tubes are slightly out of spec (slimmer than a Mil-Spec buffer tube). Magpul stocks come in two flavors, Mil-Spec and Commercial Spec. Mil-Spec is narrower than Commercial Spec. If you put a Mil-Spec stock on an AEG buffer tube it'll wiggle. If you put a Commercial Spec stock on an AEG buffer tube it'll wiggle a LOT. However, when I put my Magpul Mil-Spec CTR on my G&P GBB SR16's buffer tube, the friction lock was really solid and wiggle free. Conclusion: if you're using a standard AEG buffer tube, you'll get wiggle issues with pretty much all stocks including the ACS (most likely). I dunno, I have tried many buffer tubes and I'd say that TM is actually the tightest fit, almost no wobble. This at the price of only 4 positions But I have tried CTR stocks before and the friction lock thing eliminates nearly all the wobble on even my wobbliest buffer (King Arms). I wouldn't go for the PTS one though, not when they are likely to be the same price and be the exact same. American made= win! What excites me is an official picture of the ACS(which one would be hard pressed to find from real Magpul) . Link to post Share on other sites
K12azy13astard Posted February 20, 2009 Report Share Posted February 20, 2009 I call FMG9 Link to post Share on other sites
AnakChan Posted February 20, 2009 Report Share Posted February 20, 2009 As far as the ACR is concerned I can't see it being much better than the ACM masada with regards to anything but availability [snip] I dunno whether I can agree with you about that cazboab. I played with the A&K Masada here and if there was anything I'd nitpick would be the cheekrest which was finicky and pops right out. I sure hope that the PTS version is somewhat more sturdy. The other thing I didn't like on the A&K version is the hopup too - looks cheap. Still though the temptation to buy was there. Couldn't justify paying USD$300 equivalent for an ACM AEG though. Link to post Share on other sites
orca Posted February 20, 2009 Author Report Share Posted February 20, 2009 From looking at the name, I thought it would be a PTW. Lets hope not...... Isn't it the being called the PTSW or something? PTSW = PTS Weapon. Generic acronym for the Magpul PTS fully built gun line. No relation to Systema PTW. Link to post Share on other sites
cazboab Posted February 20, 2009 Report Share Posted February 20, 2009 I dunno whether I can agree with you about that cazboab. I played with the A&K Masada here and if there was anything I'd nitpick would be the cheekrest which was finicky and pops right out. I sure hope that the PTS version is somewhat more sturdy. The other thing I didn't like on the A&K version is the hopup too - looks cheap. The worst I can say of mine is that the stock has to be extended to raise or lower the cheek rest, which stems from the original design, so far the hop unit seems quite functional and sturdy, its got a v notch cut in the sleeve which should help a bit too... Link to post Share on other sites
Mirska Posted February 20, 2009 Report Share Posted February 20, 2009 PTSW = PTS Weapon. Generic acronym for the Magpul PTS fully built gun line. No relation to Systema PTW. On youtube the "MagpulPTS" account holder commented on a vid that there will be 2 versions. One with normal v2 (gearbox?) internals and other with PTW internals. Link to post Share on other sites
Jimmypie Posted February 20, 2009 Report Share Posted February 20, 2009 PTW or revolution gearbox? id hazard a guess and say the latter. Link to post Share on other sites
Mirska Posted February 20, 2009 Report Share Posted February 20, 2009 PTW one would allow them to use real dimensions so im betting my money on that. Link to post Share on other sites
orca Posted February 20, 2009 Author Report Share Posted February 20, 2009 On youtube the "MagpulPTS" account holder commented on a vid that there will be 2 versions. One with normal v2 (gearbox?) internals and other with PTW internals. You should post a link to this. The Official Magpul PTS Youtube account shows no videos stating this. While there was discussion of this at Shotshow 2008, this was focused towards the Magpul PTS MOE AEG, NOT the Masada. Link to post Share on other sites
Mirska Posted February 20, 2009 Report Share Posted February 20, 2009 Recalled account name wrong but: 2 page of comments: "Magpul PTS is in the process to make Ver II gear box MASADA. PTW project will launch later" Link to post Share on other sites
bart_dude Posted February 21, 2009 Report Share Posted February 21, 2009 i thought mag pul was gonna make the masada a gas blow back? Link to post Share on other sites
kodiak22 Posted February 21, 2009 Report Share Posted February 21, 2009 i thought mag pul was gonna make the masada a gas blow back? i believe Mags said in the ACm masada thread that they plan on making AEG, PTW, and GBB versions. Link to post Share on other sites
rws591 Posted February 22, 2009 Report Share Posted February 22, 2009 I want a PTW Masada so bad. I would give an arm and a leg for them, as long as they aren't mine. Link to post Share on other sites
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