smokenghosts Posted June 22, 2009 Report Share Posted June 22, 2009 Before going off and buying a CIRAS I was curious what the major differences were since Marine Force Recon use the Land and Mar CIRAS. I'm sure many others are curious and seeing how there has never been a solid answer. 1. Which one is more easy to put on? 2. Which one is more prone to complications? ( I will be running this occasionally with plates but most of the time without. I'm a small guy so I want the most adjustable) 3. Which one has a tighter fit? 4. Which one is used by who and why? (Just curious) There has to be a major reason as to why Eagle Industries made two. I realize the the Land has more space, and the Mar only has 4 columns on the left and right and then has the elastic material before you can mount something on the rest of the webbing. I would really appreciate your help guy's/girl's. Eagle Industries Land CIRAS: Eagle Industries MAR CIRAS Thank you Link to post Share on other sites
Fire NL Posted June 22, 2009 Report Share Posted June 22, 2009 IIRC the maritime is made for use with flotation thingys (forgot how the called) for the rest... no idea Link to post Share on other sites
Sgt. Kinnaird Posted June 22, 2009 Report Share Posted June 22, 2009 1. I would prolly say the Maritime variant is easier to dawn. 2. Its probably easier to prone with the Maritime variant, because the cummerbund doesnt come around the front. 3. The Maritime is more adjustable. 4. Army SF uses the MarCIRAS mainly, however you certainly see some land variants being used by them. SEALs use the MarCIRAS, and Rangers use the land variant. Personally, I like the Maritime variant better than the land one. I would definatly take a RAV over the land version. Link to post Share on other sites
smokenghosts Posted June 23, 2009 Author Report Share Posted June 23, 2009 1. I would prolly say the Maritime variant is easier to dawn. 2. Its probably easier to prone with the Maritime variant, because the cummerbund doesnt come around the front. 3. The Maritime is more adjustable. 4. Army SF uses the MarCIRAS mainly, however you certainly see some land variants being used by them. SEALs use the MarCIRAS, and Rangers use the land variant. Personally, I like the Maritime variant better than the land one. I would definatly take a RAV over the land version. I have been looking into the MAR CIRAS more, it just seems like it wont be that much of a hassle. Although I don't want to regret a purchase of about $500 dollars so I'm really thinking this out. Thank you Link to post Share on other sites
RC-1138 Posted June 23, 2009 Report Share Posted June 23, 2009 I've been using both EI and Phantom CIRAS for about 4 years now, both in the land variant, and I have to say I love it. I have worn an EI MarCiras and of the two I found that the while the Mar was more adjustable, the Land type fit me better (I'm a big guy though, 5'10'' 185 and very broad chested/shouldered ei Linebacker lol) The Land type is definetly tighter around your abs and has less movement up and down while sprinting. Link to post Share on other sites
aznsk8s87 Posted June 23, 2009 Report Share Posted June 23, 2009 From what I've gathered here, most branches use both types, but they typically lean one way - for instance, USMC-FR (when using CIRAS) usually use the land variant but there are a few photos of them using the maritime version. Likewise, photos of Army SF usually feature them with the maritime version but I'm sure I've seen them use the land version as well... Link to post Share on other sites
RC-1138 Posted June 23, 2009 Report Share Posted June 23, 2009 The Ranger's that came up for Summer Training at the Academy all used (when wearing CIRAS) exclusively the Land Type, and they were, IIRC, Alpha Company of 1st Battalion. Link to post Share on other sites
smokenghosts Posted June 23, 2009 Author Report Share Posted June 23, 2009 I have heard that Ranger's did use the Land CIRAS particularly. I also heard that the FBI HRT squad and SWAT teams use the MAR CIRAS. I think it comes down to how much space you need I guess? Does anyone recommend a size too since the sizing is for the plates. I don't really have a specific plate type but like I said before I'm small at about 5 feet 7 inches. Link to post Share on other sites
RC-1138 Posted June 23, 2009 Report Share Posted June 23, 2009 height has little to do with it, it's chest size. An easier way to size would be by BDU size. Small Reg would be a small size, Medium Reg/Large Reg would would be a medium sized and everything larger would be the large or xl type. Link to post Share on other sites
smokenghosts Posted June 23, 2009 Author Report Share Posted June 23, 2009 I see. I'll have to really look into it. I'm so eager to get it but I know that I have to make the right decision or I'll be in trouble. I have had bad experience with vests in the past but then again none of them were of such quality as these. Thank you again. Link to post Share on other sites
RC-1138 Posted June 23, 2009 Report Share Posted June 23, 2009 Your getting an actual EI or a repo? One thing to keep in mind with EI is that the color of their OD (if you go that route) is a bit... off. A little "greener" than other OD's. That may have changed in the past few years but that's definitely the case with my EI CIRAS. Link to post Share on other sites
FaRKle Posted June 23, 2009 Report Share Posted June 23, 2009 Need to haul a lot of stuff? Go Land. Don't need to haul a ton of stuff? Go Maritime. I use a MAR-CIRAS. Plenty of real-estate for my needs. Link to post Share on other sites
smokenghosts Posted June 23, 2009 Author Report Share Posted June 23, 2009 I will be going EI, deciding between a few colors. I will definitely remember that while choosing. I heard the CB was good and the RG. Link to post Share on other sites
Hispeed1 Posted June 23, 2009 Report Share Posted June 23, 2009 I will be going EI, deciding between a few colors. I will definitely remember that while choosing. I heard the CB was good and the RG. Try khaki-it would work with more style of load outs: SF, SOF, SEALs, etc. Khaki gear works with Multicam also. For CB-you'd be limited to USMC/FR or SEALs and for RG it would be Rangers/SWCC. But its up to you in the end. Good luck! Link to post Share on other sites
-Angel- Posted June 23, 2009 Report Share Posted June 23, 2009 For CB-you'd be limited to USMC/FR or SEALs SEALs use MJK, not CB. Link to post Share on other sites
smokenghosts Posted June 23, 2009 Author Report Share Posted June 23, 2009 Understood, my main concern is picking out a Land or MAR then I will pick color to base it off that. Link to post Share on other sites
-Angel- Posted June 23, 2009 Report Share Posted June 23, 2009 Well the pros and cons are there. Land for real estate, Mar for lower profile. Your call. Link to post Share on other sites
smokenghosts Posted June 23, 2009 Author Report Share Posted June 23, 2009 Well the pros and cons are there. Land for real estate, Mar for lower profile. Your call. If that's all there really is to it I guess I'll count up my pouches. Thank you Link to post Share on other sites
boomheadshot (infidel) Posted June 23, 2009 Report Share Posted June 23, 2009 buy a RICAS by warrior its top notch basicaly the same design but with a few improvements also do a very wide verity of pouches and i also belive they are cheaper ive had mine sine september last year and i have broken absolutley nothing not a single loop or thread Link to post Share on other sites
-Angel- Posted June 23, 2009 Report Share Posted June 23, 2009 As a US resident he won't have to cock about with importing with the CIRAS and Eagle has a lifetime guarantee. No contest. Link to post Share on other sites
rws591 Posted June 23, 2009 Report Share Posted June 23, 2009 Are you dead set on a CIRAS? I would suggest getting its replacement, the BAE Eclipse RBAV. I just got mine and it is unreal how light it is. http://www.eclipsegearonline.com//Default....mp;ProductId=91 http://www.atstacticalgear.com/cgi/commerc...amp;key=ST-4513 http://www.m4carbine.net/showthread.php?t=15210 Link to post Share on other sites
smokenghosts Posted June 25, 2009 Author Report Share Posted June 25, 2009 I would suggest getting its replacement, the BAE Eclipse RBAV. I just got mine and it is unreal how light it How does it hold up? It's 500D instead of 1000D like the CIRAS correct? It's a lot more affordable too in my opinion. Link to post Share on other sites
Jolly15 Posted June 25, 2009 Report Share Posted June 25, 2009 500d is lighter and only slightly less strong. Link to post Share on other sites
-Angel- Posted June 25, 2009 Report Share Posted June 25, 2009 I'm interested to see how much of a difference this gimmick makes. The design is nothing new, just the fact they have used lighter materials to construct it. Once you're kevlar'd and ceramic'd up, I doubt the few grams you're saving will be noticable, but the reduction in life-span might be. Link to post Share on other sites
smokenghosts Posted June 26, 2009 Author Report Share Posted June 26, 2009 I personally agree with Angel, the CIRAS isn't really meant to be light, every time I have seen one every inch of molle space has been used. With plates and soft armor there is just no point to trade a couple pounds for durability. Still a cheaper vest that is interesting though. Link to post Share on other sites
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