TEKNO Posted April 27, 2010 Report Share Posted April 27, 2010 di you put the trigger back into place before the internals, so that it sits in such a way that the internals just slide in over the top, or put the internals in place then the trigger? I cant seem to get the back of the trigger in - grrrrr. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
kruck Posted April 27, 2010 Report Share Posted April 27, 2010 Put the whole chassis back in, then put in the fire selector or bolt release just to keep the chassis in place, then get the trigger in. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
TEKNO Posted April 27, 2010 Report Share Posted April 27, 2010 thats what ive done - wouldnt go in at all - ill try it again tomorrow with a freash head on Quote Link to post Share on other sites
greg Posted April 28, 2010 Report Share Posted April 28, 2010 thats what ive done - wouldnt go in at all - ill try it again tomorrow with a freash head on Like Kruck, I've done this a lot & it just seems to go in first time, every time. However, it was very fiddly the first few times. Â Don't panic! Â As Kruck says, the trigger goes in last. I sort of insert it, compressing the return spring by pushing the pivot point toward the muzzle. Â Shame you ain't closer to West London, you'd be welcome round the shed, it'd be done in a few minutes. Â Crimson will be happy to tell ya, how tricky it can be. We took it in shifts on one of his , sort of working on it until we got frustrated & swapping. Then, when I remembered the technique, it was in, within seconds. Â Â Greg. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
PanteraTigris Posted April 28, 2010 Report Share Posted April 28, 2010 Hmm, I personally don't have that many CQB fields, which is a downer. Though my biggest issue is the BB's madly curving left and right. Have most of you (Tigris/greg/kruck/crimson) done the Evil-Dan hopup mod? Â Tried it and it was good. About the trigger just follow Greg's instructions. Once you get the technique it is soooooo easy to install. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
TEKNO Posted April 28, 2010 Report Share Posted April 28, 2010 Finally got the trigger in - thank for the advice . I put the internal in so far, then pulled them back a a tad, just enough that they would lift up a few mills, just enough to get the trigger in, But its not sitting right and not engaging, and locked 'back' as if the trigger had been pulled - back to the drawing board. Â This is doing my head in, i may jump on a plane Greg, and take you up on that offer - stick the kettle on Quote Link to post Share on other sites
kruck Posted April 28, 2010 Report Share Posted April 28, 2010 Make sure the spring on the trigger hasn't bent a little bit. Happened to mine causing the problems you describe, just use a pair of plyers to pull it back into shape. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
TEKNO Posted April 28, 2010 Report Share Posted April 28, 2010 Waheeeeeey all sorted - just had to use a small screw driver to push the spring down in and then put the pin in place. Â New problem - slap in a mag, pull the cocking lever, and the unit sticks back as if you had just emptied the mag. Take out mag, 'recock' it, and it fires forward again *groan* Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Crimson Posted April 28, 2010 Report Share Posted April 28, 2010 The trigger is a *badgeress* i didnt want to install my npas because of that and then i realised i didnt need to touch it  Gonna install it today Quote Link to post Share on other sites
n1ch0 Posted April 30, 2010 Report Share Posted April 30, 2010 Just received the EDGI 6.00 and 6.03 200mm... will test them tonite and see the different on FPS.. would be abit difficult on testing range though ..anyway, will post what I find. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
galactica Posted April 30, 2010 Report Share Posted April 30, 2010 Iiiiiinteresting.....my V2 NPAS arrived today and it's significantly different to V1. V1 was a sort of slightly countersunk looking device - this one looks much thicker in the collar. Hope it stands up! Quote Link to post Share on other sites
kruck Posted May 3, 2010 Report Share Posted May 3, 2010 Turns out my NPAS is broken too. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
galactica Posted May 4, 2010 Report Share Posted May 4, 2010 Sorry to hear that Kruck - but at least RA Tech are good enough to replace them, as they have in my case. Of course, Greg's will still be going strong like his KSC nozzle did....and then break about three months after everyone else's Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Crimson Posted May 4, 2010 Report Share Posted May 4, 2010 (edited) I installed my npas today  Right now mine is doing 430 stock, once i installed the npas on its highest fps setting its 280fps and its lowest setting is 230fps before the gun fails to fire  before i even installed it the gun the screw it sits on fell off ! i cant belive the poor build quality  i used a hammer and some glue to wack the bit back on it works fine now  But whats with the fps issue and valve ?  Sould i bring it back to ESC ? Edited May 4, 2010 by Crimson Quote Link to post Share on other sites
greg Posted May 4, 2010 Report Share Posted May 4, 2010 Sorry to hear that Kruck - but at least RA Tech are good enough to replace them, as they have in my case. Of course, Greg's will still be going strong like his KSC nozzle did....and then break about three months after everyone else's You're dead right! Â As yet, no probs but having seen yours, I don't hold up hope for mine. Â I think mine may be lasting longer because I very rarely use auto. Who knows. Â One thing's for sure; having now written this, I guarantee it will go bang, the next time I use it. Â Â Greg. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
kruck Posted May 4, 2010 Report Share Posted May 4, 2010 Anyone have any idea what a stock (now) KWA MP7 with the rocket valve spring from the NPAS set installed will do FPS wise? I believe someone mentioned that this spring lowered FPS, but I may be imagining things. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Crimson Posted May 4, 2010 Report Share Posted May 4, 2010 In gregs his was stock fps and lower, mine was 420 fps down to 330 fps and lower after npas unit  So i thought what if i filed down the npas unit (ie to let more space for air to come in ?) for every mmm i shaved i lost 3 fps on the max setting  It appears i now need to order a new npas version 2  when i get home from work i am going to mess around with the valve even more Quote Link to post Share on other sites
n1ch0 Posted May 4, 2010 Report Share Posted May 4, 2010 Guys... heads up.. PDI just come out with the barrel for KSC MP7A1... it said std length but with the language barrier I've yet to find out the exact mm yet... http://www.x-fire.org/etop/01_h.html  i Guess no time to test the EDGI... just post them for sale and place an order for 1 PDI ones ahahahaha... Quote Link to post Share on other sites
galactica Posted May 4, 2010 Report Share Posted May 4, 2010 Heh - but I am also a semi-junkie, so I don't think it's that  Crimson - you used the spring that came with the NPAS didn't you? Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Crimson Posted May 5, 2010 Report Share Posted May 5, 2010 n1cho- its 6.01  Inner Diameter:6,01mm Outer Diameter: 8mm made of SUS304  yeah tested it with both springs  npas is blocking half the chamber i can see it myself  I may now make a whole thread in technical because i dont get the conecpt i think i need someone with more technical exp Quote Link to post Share on other sites
n1ch0 Posted May 5, 2010 Report Share Posted May 5, 2010 Crimson.. I meant the length ... dunno whether its 160mm/165mm or perhaps longer? Quote Link to post Share on other sites
galactica Posted May 5, 2010 Report Share Posted May 5, 2010 it's the RA-Tech spring! it's too strong! don't file down the NPAS or anything...crimson, you probably already have a V2 NPAS. I have mentioned in the NPAS thread about how the spring that comes with it is way too strong. Use the one that came with your gun. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
galactica Posted May 5, 2010 Report Share Posted May 5, 2010 Anyone have any idea what a stock (now) KWA MP7 with the rocket valve spring from the NPAS set installed will do FPS wise? I believe someone mentioned that this spring lowered FPS, but I may be imagining things. Â When Greg & I did this on my KWA, that RA Tech spring lowered the upper FPS to something terrible like 300 down from 400. My stock KWA (US) spring was much weaker in strength than the RA-Tech one, and also weaker than the KSC Japan one that greg had. The different results we got were fairly clear - weaker spring, higher FPS. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Crimson Posted May 5, 2010 Report Share Posted May 5, 2010 i have tried it with both springs the most fps i can get is 328, when stock is doing 430  i have already filed it down 2mm  So what should i do to increase the fps ? Quote Link to post Share on other sites
galactica Posted May 5, 2010 Report Share Posted May 5, 2010 can you post a pic of your npas? Â I am wondering if the V2 NPAS is too heavy now it's been re-engineered. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
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