wdahm519 Posted October 27, 2009 Report Share Posted October 27, 2009 To get back on topic about the KJ M4: Does anyone know if the Anti Rotation Links made for a WA M4 Metal Body would fit the KJ? I'm not sure if the pins on the WA and the KJ are the same size. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
sacairsoftsn00py Posted October 28, 2009 Report Share Posted October 28, 2009 To get back on topic about the KJ M4: Does anyone know if the Anti Rotation Links made for a WA M4 Metal Body would fit the KJ? I'm not sure if the pins on the WA and the KJ are the same size. Are you going after them for looks? The KJ hammer and trigger pins are held in place by "springs". They look like they're wire springs. The pins will not get kicked out of the receiver from the gun's recoil and the gun's action. If it gets out of place, its because it got forced out manually. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Donut Posted October 28, 2009 Author Report Share Posted October 28, 2009 (edited) Damn, I want to my KJW to shoot less Edited October 28, 2009 by Donut Quote Link to post Share on other sites
wdahm519 Posted October 28, 2009 Report Share Posted October 28, 2009 Are you going after them for looks? The KJ hammer and trigger pins are held in place by "springs". They look like they're wire springs. The pins will not get kicked out of the receiver from the gun's recoil and the gun's action. If it gets out of place, its because it got forced out manually. Partial yes, and partially because I didn't want them to work themselves out. But since they're on springs, nevermind. Thanks. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Speed= Posted October 28, 2009 Report Share Posted October 28, 2009 Damn, I want to my KJW to shoot less ? Quote Link to post Share on other sites
wdahm519 Posted October 28, 2009 Report Share Posted October 28, 2009 (edited) Hey guys, You should know something about putting Magpul MIAD grips on the KJ M4. You're going to need to add a little bit of thick notecard, or a thin strip of metal between the grip, and the spring that holds in the ball bearing which holes the selector switch in place and makes it lock. On the standard grip there is a flat piece of plastic that holds the spring in to put tension on that locking mechanism. However, on a real steel rifle it is located in a slightly different position, so the Magpul MIAD doesn't hold the spring in by itself. EDIT: I bought the "full kit" which comes with the trigger guard. Its really easy to pop out the old one, and the new one fits perfectly. I tripled (I may do it again and quadruple) some note-card material to hold the spring in and it worked fine. Its just something to think about before putting the grip on. Its a nice tight fit otherwise though, with no wobble at all! The Magpul MBUS fits like a charm (rear), and YOU CAN USE REAL STEEL CHARGING HANDLE LATCHES. I installed a PRI Big Latch. Just use the pin supplied, as I think the hole is slightly smaller on the real steel latches. It won't fall out. I'll add info about the fitting of the Magpul MOE (CTR look alike) stock tomorrow or whenever it comes. Edited October 28, 2009 by wdahm519 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
t_hum Posted October 28, 2009 Report Share Posted October 28, 2009 How about some pics of your setup? Quote Link to post Share on other sites
wdahm519 Posted October 28, 2009 Report Share Posted October 28, 2009 How about some pics of your setup? Tomorrow I want to wait to show it off until I get the MOE stock I bought. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
nylock10 Posted October 29, 2009 Report Share Posted October 29, 2009 (edited) Anyone using strictly propane with this gun? Would it be safe to assume that this gun will hold up pretty well when using propane? Those Chinese clone GBBRs (AGM, Jing Gong, etc.) were looking like nice buys for the price, but they seem to get their guts torn out of them after a while from using propane. Also, any word on STANAG style mags any time soon (possibly by the holiday season)? Edited October 29, 2009 by nylock10 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Kai_Wolf Posted October 29, 2009 Report Share Posted October 29, 2009 I have used nothing but propane and no issues yet. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
nylock10 Posted October 29, 2009 Report Share Posted October 29, 2009 I have used nothing but propane and no issues yet. This may be a silly question but does the KJW kick hard w/propane? Quote Link to post Share on other sites
sacairsoftsn00py Posted October 29, 2009 Report Share Posted October 29, 2009 This may be a silly question but does the KJW kick hard w/propane? IMO the TM Desert Eagle Hard Kick GBB kicks harder. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
wdahm519 Posted October 29, 2009 Report Share Posted October 29, 2009 My piston cup tore a bit with propane in the cold, but thats all. I was just expecting it to tear anyways. Pick up a t_hum piston upgrade and shoot propane all day, forever. This gun can handle it. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
sacairsoftsn00py Posted October 29, 2009 Report Share Posted October 29, 2009 Magpul CTR stock is loose on the KJ...even if you clamp it down with the tab. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
bloodybiscuit Posted October 29, 2009 Report Share Posted October 29, 2009 are you kidding me!!?? Quote Link to post Share on other sites
sacairsoftsn00py Posted October 30, 2009 Report Share Posted October 30, 2009 are you kidding me!!?? I am not. I took it out and stuck it back on my other M4. What does not wobble much on the kj is the marui m4's retractable stock (plastic piece)...its as tight as can be without being stuck in place.... Quote Link to post Share on other sites
wdahm519 Posted October 30, 2009 Report Share Posted October 30, 2009 I am not. I took it out and stuck it back on my other M4. What does not wobble much on the kj is the marui m4's retractable stock (plastic piece)...its as tight as can be without being stuck in place.... I'll let people know how the "PTS" MOE CTR Stock is soon. Since its PTS it should fit better. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
-=OGGY=- Posted October 30, 2009 Report Share Posted October 30, 2009 Those Chinese clone GBBRs (AGM, Jing Gong, etc.) were looking like nice buys for the price, but they seem to get their guts torn out of them after a while from using propane. Well what do you expect? The WA system is inherently fragile (even the stock WA's can't handle propane.) That's not to say the WA can't be upgraded to work perfectly.... (I'm a WA guy) If you want GBB and don't have a big budget, the KJW seems to be the only option. A cheap 'working' WA could cost anywhere from $300 up, and even then there are no guarentees. For a bulletproof WA you could be looking at $1K easialy. Basically after listening to feedback on the KJW, if you want the same out-of-the-box reliability found with AEG's, the KJW is the best option. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
wdahm519 Posted October 30, 2009 Report Share Posted October 30, 2009 (edited) Well what do you expect? The WA system is inherently fragile (even the stock WA's can't handle propane.) That's not to say the WA can't be upgraded to work perfectly.... (I'm a WA guy) If you want GBB and don't have a big budget, the KJW seems to be the only option. A cheap 'working' WA could cost anywhere from $300 up, and even then there are no guarentees. For a bulletproof WA you could be looking at $1K easialy. Basically after listening to feedback on the KJW, if you want the same out-of-the-box reliability found with AEG's, the KJW is the best option. I would not agree that a bulletproof WA is $1k. I know a handful of people that have all dumped over $1k into their WA's and they still don't work continuously. I wouldn't consider the KJW M4 is a GBBR for a man with a budget either. I'm put a few hundred in externals on my rifle already, and there's still the t_hum's upgrade parts to purchase. Edited October 30, 2009 by wdahm519 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
MrTreble Posted October 30, 2009 Report Share Posted October 30, 2009 I also don't agree that a 1k WA platformed GBBR is going to perform as well as a stock KJW M4. Externals shouldn't be taken into account because it will vary from person to person on how they want their M4 to look. Internals for the KJ M4 isn't going to add up to much, less than $100. The WA/G&P/Inokatsu/AGM/JG is going to add up to over twice that amount. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
wdahm519 Posted October 30, 2009 Report Share Posted October 30, 2009 I also don't agree that a 1k WA platformed GBBR is going to perform as well as a stock KJW M4. Externals shouldn't be taken into account because it will vary from person to person on how they want their M4 to look. Internals for the KJ M4 isn't going to add up to much, less than $100. The WA/G&P/Inokatsu/AGM/JG is going to add up to over twice that amount. Now that is something I would agree with! Quote Link to post Share on other sites
wdahm519 Posted October 30, 2009 Report Share Posted October 30, 2009 (edited) Alright guys, time for some pics of my gun. I still need to put on the black TD grip instead of the FDE one... but that really doesn't matter for pics. I'm also throwing an R500S on for the CQB season. Externals include: - G&P 7" KAC Rails - Dytac PEQ15 - Milspex TD Stubby foregrip (with trades ) - Norgon Ambi Mag Release - Magpul MBUS Rear Flip Up - Magpul MIAD Full Kit with Trigger Guard - PRI Big Combat Latch - Magpul MOE "PTS" Stock - EOTech 511 The MOE PTS stock fits pretty well. There is a slight bit of wobble, but WAY WAY less than with the original LE stock. I doesn't even bother anymore and I don't really notice it. For $59 you can't go wrong... Edited October 30, 2009 by wdahm519 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
nylock10 Posted October 31, 2009 Report Share Posted October 31, 2009 I also don't agree that a 1k WA platformed GBBR is going to perform as well as a stock KJW M4. Externals shouldn't be taken into account because it will vary from person to person on how they want their M4 to look. Internals for the KJ M4 isn't going to add up to much, less than $100. The WA/G&P/Inokatsu/AGM/JG is going to add up to over twice that amount. What internals for the KJW are even available? @wdahm519 Now that is a nice looking rifle. Did those G&P rails just snap right into place or did they have to be fiddled with to be installed? Quote Link to post Share on other sites
SwatMP5man Posted October 31, 2009 Report Share Posted October 31, 2009 What internals for the KJW are even available? @wdahm519 Now that is a nice looking rifle. Did those G&P rails just snap right into place or did they have to be fiddled with to be installed? None as of yet, but then none are really needed as the KJW doesn't have issues with anything breaking. If you need it downgrading then t-hum is producing a custom velocity reducer and piston set. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
t_hum Posted October 31, 2009 Report Share Posted October 31, 2009 The piston isn't necessarily a downgrade. It just resolves the issue people have been identifying with fragile cup seals and gas efficiency. Speaking of, Ive got a stock of parts now. I had to source a a few bits for reducers from a company out east and they're on their way. Any day now guys and we will be up and running 100%. Thanks for the patience! Quote Link to post Share on other sites
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