MrTreble Posted November 2, 2009 Report Share Posted November 2, 2009 AEG front sets can fit, with a slight (cut) modification. Look at the earlier posts, before page 16. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
sacairsoftsn00py Posted November 2, 2009 Report Share Posted November 2, 2009 They are not a 100% fit/function combination though. I have heard of feeding/hop related issues with use of AEG outer barrels. Â Â Quote Link to post Share on other sites
wdahm519 Posted November 2, 2009 Report Share Posted November 2, 2009 They are not a 100% fit/function combination though. I have heard of feeding/hop related issues with use of AEG outer barrels. Â Were those problems persistent when they had the "cuts" on them to fit correctly? I forgot if you can even attach the AEG outer barrels without making the cuts.. which is why I ask. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
t_hum Posted November 2, 2009 Report Share Posted November 2, 2009 We made cuts in Raven1's AEG outer barrel. After fitting it developed some odd feeding issues randomly. We believe it was attributed to the hop up unit opening up slightly. Its complicated to explain why and how it all happened and I dont fully understand it myself. But I think its safe to say that modifications are iffy and won't give you performance on par with the stock setup. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
phantomwarrior Posted November 2, 2009 Report Share Posted November 2, 2009 (edited) t_hum: \ If you guys tested yet, or when you do... Â How much more recoil is there with the lower fps because the float valve closes earlier. Is it getting closer to any WA? Edited November 2, 2009 by phantomwarrior Quote Link to post Share on other sites
wdahm519 Posted November 2, 2009 Report Share Posted November 2, 2009 t_hum: \ If you guys tested yet, or when you do... Â How much more recoil is there with the lower fps because the float valve closes earlier. Is it getting closer to any WA? Â In theory it should be greater because more of the force of the expanding gas is being directed towards pushing the bolt backwards. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
t_hum Posted November 3, 2009 Report Share Posted November 3, 2009 I would say there is no difference in recoil. At least not perceivable. This is because less gas is used to propel the bb, thus the recoil action happens sooner and closes the magazine valve. If anything recoil should be the same and gas efficiency should increase very slightly. You have to remember the numbers we are talking about here are very small. Maybe the valve flows .12 cubic mm less and the recoil action releases the mag valve a tenth of a second sooner. Who knows. But the numbers are very slightly different than stock and small enough we can't tell the difference without precise measuring tools. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
phantomwarrior Posted November 3, 2009 Report Share Posted November 3, 2009 Got it. Â Yeah, I was thinking in theory, but forgot unlike the magna gas system, to close the valve, you don't hit the knocker (or whatever it's called), you take the pressure off from the hammer. Â So either way you let out a controlled amount of gas. Is that what you're saying t_hum? Â Also you've tested that there is no perceived difference if that's what I'm reading, right? Quote Link to post Share on other sites
t_hum Posted November 3, 2009 Report Share Posted November 3, 2009 Yes, Im saying there is no noticeable difference in recoil. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
El Cactus Loco Posted November 3, 2009 Report Share Posted November 3, 2009 just saw the Laylax 2010 teaser poster on arnies, i hope they just decided to keep the stuff they are working on for the KJW under wraps... cause i dont see any of it. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
bunta510 Posted November 3, 2009 Report Share Posted November 3, 2009 (edited) i've always wondered if TM VSR/pistol barrels would work. unfortunately, they won't fit the hop rubber that well as the notches are placed differently and wider. top one is the KJW barre, middle is from TM pistol, bottom is from TM VSR 10 barrel  Edited November 3, 2009 by bunta510 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
wdahm519 Posted November 3, 2009 Report Share Posted November 3, 2009 A little update     Quote Link to post Share on other sites
MrTreble Posted November 4, 2009 Report Share Posted November 4, 2009 wdahm519 - parts list please. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
wdahm519 Posted November 4, 2009 Report Share Posted November 4, 2009 (edited) Parts are from back to front: Â Magpul MOE Stock Magpul MIAD Full Kit Pistol Grip PRI Big Latch Combat Tac Latch Magpul MBUS Rear Flip Up Norgon Ambi Mag Catch RealSteel EOTech 511.A65/1 G&P 7" KAC Style Rail System Milspex Tangodown QD VFG Dytac PEQ15 G&P R500S Tac Light (460 lumens baby.. they claim 500 but its a bit less) G&P Pressure Switch Daniel Defense Offset Flashlight Mount (PAK Version) Samson/Stag Arms Ladder Covers Magpul Magpuls (*on mags, not shown) Â I have to add one more picture because this new series of pictures I took are way better than the crappy ones I posted a second ago: Â Edited November 4, 2009 by wdahm519 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
sacairsoftsn00py Posted November 4, 2009 Report Share Posted November 4, 2009 (edited) A couple of people from another site says that they have not had feed/hop issues using the G&P outer barrel.  I'm taking a gamble on a Madbull M733 (CQBR length/ 10.5") outer barrel. Hope feeding and hop stays as good as it is with the stock barrel.   Couple more magazines coming in. Mid-Threat body armor only holds 4.  my other plate carrier only has 4 single cell pouches...need to get a couple more  or take out the elastic bands on my double mag pouches....meh! I'm so used to just pulling my mag out of the pouch....don't want to mess with elastic stuff or the screaming velcro...  need a couple more of these pouches...     Edited November 4, 2009 by sacairsoftsn00py Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Robinio Posted November 4, 2009 Report Share Posted November 4, 2009 (edited) I Guess you're using PTS parts Wdahm? Â Oh EDIT: One question, have anyone used the M4s in a little more cold weather? Hows the gas holding up? Edited November 4, 2009 by Robinio Quote Link to post Share on other sites
wdahm519 Posted November 4, 2009 Report Share Posted November 4, 2009 (edited) I Guess you're using PTS parts Wdahm? Oh EDIT: One question, have anyone used the M4s in a little more cold weather? Hows the gas holding up?  No, I'm not. Only the stock is PTS.  Check my posts about 2 - 3 pages back, I posted about using my rifle in the cold. But for a recap - they work pretty well still, but I think cold + propane caused my cup seal to rip instantly. Edited November 4, 2009 by wdahm519 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Robinio Posted November 4, 2009 Report Share Posted November 4, 2009 Ah well, will the PTS pistolgrips fit or should I go for RS? Quote Link to post Share on other sites
wdahm519 Posted November 4, 2009 Report Share Posted November 4, 2009 Ah well, will the PTS pistolgrips fit or should I go for RS? Â You need the real ones, cause the PTS fit AEG's with motors in the grip. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Robinio Posted November 4, 2009 Report Share Posted November 4, 2009 Ah, but isn't there a WA one that is PTS and will fit Gbbrs? Quote Link to post Share on other sites
wdahm519 Posted November 4, 2009 Report Share Posted November 4, 2009 Ah, but isn't there a WA one that is PTS and will fit Gbbrs? Â Yeah, but I'm not sure if the WA would fit the KJW. It would make more sense just to get the real steel magpul MIAD kit for $34, or the full kit for $38 like I did from SKDTac, and its $5 flat rate shipping. Â Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Raven1 Posted November 5, 2009 Report Share Posted November 5, 2009 Ah, but isn't there a WA one that is PTS and will fit Gbbrs?  Yes there is,  It is a MOE Grip and Ehobby sells it -- http://shop.ehobbyasia.com/magpul-pts-moe-...ries-black.html  Be advised though, the KJW cap screw that fastens the grip down is larger and you will not be able to use the cap screw that comes with the PTS grip. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Robinio Posted November 5, 2009 Report Share Posted November 5, 2009 Alrighty Then. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
wdahm519 Posted November 6, 2009 Report Share Posted November 6, 2009 T_hum, hows that website coming? I die a little inside every time I see "Site Under Construction"... Quote Link to post Share on other sites
user7 Posted November 6, 2009 Report Share Posted November 6, 2009 Yes there is, It is a MOE Grip and Ehobby sells it -- http://shop.ehobbyasia.com/magpul-pts-moe-...ries-black.html  Be advised though, the KJW cap screw that fastens the grip down is larger and you will not be able to use the cap screw that comes with the PTS grip.  on a similar vein, what tool is needed to remove the grip. the allen keys i have are too short to reach the screw Quote Link to post Share on other sites
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