Gunfighters808 Posted December 29, 2010 Report Share Posted December 29, 2010 Initial Impressions of the TM PX4 GBB Pistol Tokyo Marui PX4 Length: 193mm / 7.6 inches Weight: 834g / 1lb 13.4oz Magazine Capacity: 25rds FPS (0.20g): 295(Green), 225 (134a) The latest offering from Tokyo Marui, the PX4 offers some new features to their GBB line. Built on a compact frame, it is a welcome addition to players familiar with gun types such as the SIG 226, HiCappa 4.3, and USP Compact. Immediately, you will see that it comes with 2 extra back plates for the lower frame to fit almost any shooter’s hand for a better shooting position and comfort. To change out the back plates, the player would depress the bottom of the magazine well, then, pulls the back plate away from the rear of the gun. The player may now attach a different back to suit their needs. The lower frame also incorporates a bottom rail to attach different accessories such as lights or lasers. The PX4 uses a 25rd magazine of its own design. Gas capacity is comparable to all of TM’s double-stacked type magazines. Velocity is on par for a compact type pistol from TM. Testing was conducted with King Arms Green Gas and Excel .20g BB’s. A Radar type chronograph was used to measure shots in an air conditioned space. Measurements as follows: Shot 1: 302fps Shot 2: 300 Shot 3: 292 Shot 4: 298 Shot 5: 293 Shot 6: 285 Shot 7: 282 Shot 8: 281 Shot 9: 278 Shot10: 279 Subsequent shots hovered within the 278-285 range with Green Gas. On 134A gas velocity ranged from 240 on the first shot to 220 with the magazine starting to cool noticeably. Recoil is snappy and short, comparable to the Cappa4.3 and SIG226, but not as strong as the Desert Eagle and Five7 series guns from Marui. Of note, during testing we noticed that the PX4 tends to expel more gas during shooting contributing to a slightly faster cool-down of the magazines and performance. Weather our particular gun or the series uses more gas remains to be seen in the long term. Accuracy is TM consistent, the first target was with the gun straight out of the box, without hop adjustment or checking the sights. Shooting was with .20g Excel, with King Arms Green Gas. Targets were 8m away. Shooting was from a standing position with 2 hand support. (not scientific, but a more practical answer). The second target is with the hop adjusted and sights corrected, same shooting position and distance, as well as gas and bb’s. The PX4, being a compact design tends to shoot “flat” during snap-shooting and fast-draw situations. Balance is comparable to the USP Compact Pistol. The safety also incorporates a de-cocking feature if the hammer is back in a ready position. Upon engaging the safety, it automatically releases the hammer to battery, this can be done with the magazine in and fully gassed. The hop up is of a new design. Removing the slide to access the hop system is no longer needed. Access to the hop unit can be done with the slide locked in the back position. It is a dial type but fixed to the left side of the barrel and running parallel to the housing. It is colored a lighter grey for easier identification. Players with larger fingers or gloves may find this arrangement a little difficult to adjust the hop setting. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Gunfighters808 Posted December 29, 2010 Author Report Share Posted December 29, 2010 Field striping the PX4 is the same as a Glock type pistol. There are two release tabs on the frame, pull downwards, and push slide to separate from the frame. Aftermarket parts are not available as of right now, however, as with most TM type guns, expect the larger manufacturers to start to make parts for this new platform. In conclusion, the PX4 seems to go along with the same lines as other compact pistols. Great as a sidearm, and offering some new features not found on many of Tokyo Marui’s other pistols, it would be a worthy addition to a player’s load-out. While the lack of aftermarket parts may hinder it immediately, if it is like the rest of TM’s line, players will not have to wait long to start customizing to their hearts content. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Gunmane Posted December 29, 2010 Report Share Posted December 29, 2010 Thank you for putting this up! I've been waiting to see who would put a review up first. I cannot wait for it to come out stateside and for aftermarket frames to come out. Your thoughts on the grip configurations? How are they compared to other pistols with similar capacity for changing the back grip plate? Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Gunfighters808 Posted December 29, 2010 Author Report Share Posted December 29, 2010 The grip options are a welcome thing, that way everyone can be more comfortable shooting this gun. The lock seems to be pretty strong, and the fit is good too. Once the plate is on, it feels really solid. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
MrTreble Posted December 29, 2010 Report Share Posted December 29, 2010 Is the takedown lever spring operated like a Glock or is it like the 5-7? Quote Link to post Share on other sites
hwagan Posted December 29, 2010 Report Share Posted December 29, 2010 Any idea if it takes a nineball hop rubber or standard TM compatible tightbores? Should have mine here on Friday or Saturday, will add my thoughts. Looks awesome, as per usual with TM's pistols. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
FalconGroup6 Posted December 30, 2010 Report Share Posted December 30, 2010 Yea def thanx for posting a little review on the PX4. Ive been waiting and hoping for awhile that someone (preferably TM) would release one. When i heard it was coming months back i was pumped. I do expect MANY aftermarket parts to be available eventually like every other TM pistol. Im gonna give it a month or two just to get established and then im gonna pick one up. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
davedawg123 Posted December 31, 2010 Report Share Posted December 31, 2010 (edited) Thanks for the review. I seem to recall that the barrel rotates when the slide retracts. Is that the case? Edited December 31, 2010 by davedawg123 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Gunfighters808 Posted December 31, 2010 Author Report Share Posted December 31, 2010 yes it does. here's some pics, my computer was acting up last time, so I couldn't u/l them. sorry, pics kinda dark, here ya go: video: Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Gunmane Posted December 31, 2010 Report Share Posted December 31, 2010 I just got back from firing a real one that a family friend had, (total surprise, life moment, even though it was just one mag in .40 caliber) and I find that the regular grip is a little small for my hands, but it felt so right in the hand though. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
aznriptide859 Posted January 4, 2011 Report Share Posted January 4, 2011 So are all TM reviews going to start with "Initial Impressions of ___"? XDD I'd like to know if the BBU is still multi-piece like the 5-7's, or if they found another more reliable method. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Gunfighters808 Posted January 4, 2011 Author Report Share Posted January 4, 2011 YES. or at least when I have the time to do another review Quote Link to post Share on other sites
MrTreble Posted January 8, 2011 Report Share Posted January 8, 2011 Any update on whether this takes the Nine ball hop up rubber and inner barrels? Quote Link to post Share on other sites
hwagan Posted January 8, 2011 Report Share Posted January 8, 2011 I'll give mine a teardown this evening, but knowing TM, it should be compatible. Hop system looks very, very similar. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Dickens Posted January 8, 2011 Report Share Posted January 8, 2011 I love mine, quality little pistol from TM yet again : ) Quote Link to post Share on other sites
hwagan Posted January 8, 2011 Report Share Posted January 8, 2011 Nice pics dude I'll be stripping mine in about an hour and uploading pics of the internals as well as my thoughts on the thing - Those thoughts are pretty simple though; It's a fantastic piece of kit. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
ryangolfvr6 Posted January 8, 2011 Report Share Posted January 8, 2011 Nice pics dude I'll be stripping mine in about an hour and uploading pics of the internals as well as my thoughts on the thing - Those thoughts are pretty simple though; It's a fantastic piece of kit. got mine on order now cheers any one know the length of internal barrel i read thats its a funny length Quote Link to post Share on other sites
hwagan Posted January 9, 2011 Report Share Posted January 9, 2011 Sorry for the delayed pictures, got distracted... Anyhoo, good news! The PX4 has a pretty standard TM Hop system; I'm reluctant to break it down further until i really need too, but from the below pictures i think it's fair to say standard barrels and rubbers fit the PX4; Closeup of the BBU: And the whole thing stripped down: The barrel length is about 8mm shorter than the barrel for a Hicapa 4.3; Unfortunately, this means modifying a longer barrel or waiting for someone to release one. Approximately 50-60 shots per gas fill, depending on rate of fire. Dumping a whole mag as quick as the trigger is pulled isn't a problem at room temperature. Cycle time is quicker than a TM Foliage Warrior or TM G17; This thing *really* snaps. Noise is nice as well. The build quality and finish on this is probably the best i've yet seen from TM - The pistol without the mag has a real noticeable heft to it, it feels rock solid and the polymer used looks very smooth and pleasant. Overall, this thing is an awesome pistol from Marui - I've easily put 800 rounds through this (it's just so much fun) by now. No signs of a problem yet - Assuming the long term reliability is good, TM have made another winner. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
drsmith751 Posted January 9, 2011 Report Share Posted January 9, 2011 Looks like a great gun. What gas are you using? Quote Link to post Share on other sites
hwagan Posted January 9, 2011 Report Share Posted January 9, 2011 Green gas in mine - Kicking about 290FPS at room temperature. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
cbcsteve Posted January 12, 2011 Report Share Posted January 12, 2011 I have a 6.01 PDI 7inch Barrel for the Hicapa does anyone know for sure if this will fit into the Storm PX4? Quote Link to post Share on other sites
volante Posted January 13, 2011 Report Share Posted January 13, 2011 TM is good gas pistol maker... but i prefer KSC SYSTEM7. Accuracy may little bit lower than TM's pistol, but it is even powerful than WA. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
hwagan Posted January 13, 2011 Report Share Posted January 13, 2011 I have a 6.01 PDI 7inch Barrel for the Hicapa does anyone know for sure if this will fit into the Storm PX4? It'll be about 3 inches too long, but it'll fit - You may also need to modify the end of the outer barrel to let the extra length go through. Barrel length in the PX4 is about 8mm short of a Hicapa 4.3 barrel. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
bankz5152 Posted January 13, 2011 Report Share Posted January 13, 2011 (edited) Anyone know of a UK release date? As for S7, I think TM make much more reliable pistols with high gas efficancy than KSC yet KSC/KWA are far better with SMGs and the like. Edited January 13, 2011 by bankz5152 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
hwagan Posted January 13, 2011 Report Share Posted January 13, 2011 I've never in the entirity of my skirmishing career seen a KWA/KSC pistol hit a man sized target consistently past 25 yards. I've owned 4 and seen even more, i'd gladly take a TM G18C over anything KWA any day. As for UK release date, 29th of December last year - www.eliteshootingcentre.co.uk Quote Link to post Share on other sites
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