aznriptide859 Posted March 5, 2013 Report Share Posted March 5, 2013 So I've been throwing this around randomly, but for some of you older airsofters, there was a custom bullpup made back in 2004-2005 called the Omincol XA23 - basically the unholy fusion of a P90 lower, FAMAS upper, and G36C rail. Unfortunately since the site's been down for years, I had to use an archived version; I completely forgot who made it, but credit should be given to such a godly custom work. If anyone knows who made it as well, I'd be extremely grateful if I could contact him for info/build specifics. I want to try and "remake" the gun, using the same basic parts and possibly improving the functionality. I can easily obtain the main body parts, but internal-wise I'm not sure whether to stick with the FAMAS V1 gearbox or try and implant a V6 GB inside somehow. This is a very WIP/brainstorming phase, but ever since I saw the project I really wanted it. This might turn out to be a spring break/summer project, but if anyone has advice/input, I'm happy to listen Link to post Share on other sites
spetsnazdave87 Posted March 5, 2013 Report Share Posted March 5, 2013 Isn't that essentially now just an FN2000 with a g36c top rail? Link to post Share on other sites
aznriptide859 Posted March 5, 2013 Author Report Share Posted March 5, 2013 FN2000 was too fat for me :/ Link to post Share on other sites
Im going space Posted March 5, 2013 Report Share Posted March 5, 2013 Tbh id stick with the V1 till it dies in about 10 years as theyre rock solid. I both love and hate it at the same time. Link to post Share on other sites
Panzergraf Posted March 5, 2013 Report Share Posted March 5, 2013 I remember that gun! It was made by a Danish guy, I think his name was Frankengun, or that might have been the name of his website. Hope that helps. Link to post Share on other sites
RSM Posted March 5, 2013 Report Share Posted March 5, 2013 Would a UBR not make a better base gun these days? Link to post Share on other sites
Tinkerton Posted March 6, 2013 Report Share Posted March 6, 2013 Nah, the chaps name was Hardcoil. Heres a link the internet archive page for it (from August 2007... was it really that long ago? ) http://web.archive.org/web/20070809020131/http://www.hardcoil.net/airsoft/guns/XN-2000m.html Link to post Share on other sites
bankz5152 Posted March 6, 2013 Report Share Posted March 6, 2013 Yeah hes right was Hardcoil, I remember PM'ing about the material he used for the grip (not the one pictured above) The second gen was moulded with some kind of ceramic/rubber bake-mould cant remember the name.... It is one awesome looking gun, now I would LOVE a GBBR version Link to post Share on other sites
spetsnazdave87 Posted March 6, 2013 Report Share Posted March 6, 2013 2007? Holy *suitcase* that makes me feel old. Link to post Share on other sites
Horsem4n Posted March 6, 2013 Report Share Posted March 6, 2013 lol, that gun got me into airsmithing. its really cool, but im not a fan of the P90 grip angle. the LoP from the FA-MAS may help, but i still like a regular grip angle. i dont know how you feel about gas guns riptide, but id do a P* gearbox. the V1 has a notoriously weak front end from what i remember. Link to post Share on other sites
aznriptide859 Posted March 6, 2013 Author Report Share Posted March 6, 2013 Never considered P*...might be worth it for this gun Link to post Share on other sites
sandstorm Posted March 6, 2013 Report Share Posted March 6, 2013 I think Donut did many, many, many weird and wonderful P90 fusions as well? Link to post Share on other sites
Tinkerton Posted March 6, 2013 Report Share Posted March 6, 2013 V1... weak? isnt the famas gearbox famous for never, ever, ever, ever, ever breaking? Link to post Share on other sites
T3CH Posted March 6, 2013 Report Share Posted March 6, 2013 V1... weak? isnt the famas gearbox famous for never, ever, ever, ever, ever breaking? I think he means the V2, as I've got a TM FAMAS that's must have had over a million rounds through it (ex rental gun) Link to post Share on other sites
Horsem4n Posted March 6, 2013 Report Share Posted March 6, 2013 i thought that the famas couldn't use anything stronger than a 110 or the gearbox face would break off? thats like one of the first things i learned about the famas. DAMNIT, thats why i never bought one! MY WHOLE WORLD IS A LIE! Link to post Share on other sites
Gunmane Posted March 6, 2013 Report Share Posted March 6, 2013 riptide, MAKE THIS GUN, NAO!!!! I'd send my famas down if it wasn't being kept for sentimental value. Still works, though a bit underpowered. Last time I had it out on a field, an acquaintance took it for a spin and wiped out the entire enemy team at close range. Link to post Share on other sites
thatguy404 Posted March 7, 2013 Report Share Posted March 7, 2013 So ugly, so awesome. Do want! Link to post Share on other sites
Chewbacka Posted March 10, 2013 Report Share Posted March 10, 2013 Stick with famas gearbox. The biggest challenge will be the trigger, p90 trigger is "push type" and famas one is "pull type". I couldn`t find any info on how Hardcoil got the p90 trigger to work with the famas gearbox. Link to post Share on other sites
renegadecow Posted March 10, 2013 Report Share Posted March 10, 2013 FAMAS gearbox is probbaly the most robust of them all, built similarly to a M249 gearbox. But the FAMAS receiver, especially the part holding the gearbox to the rest of the gun, now that's some nasty engineering going on. Link to post Share on other sites
T3CH Posted March 10, 2013 Report Share Posted March 10, 2013 Stick with famas gearbox. The biggest challenge will be the trigger, p90 trigger is "push type" and famas one is "pull type". I couldn`t find any info on how Hardcoil got the p90 trigger to work with the famas gearbox. I think he used a micro-switch. Link to post Share on other sites
DarkLite Posted March 10, 2013 Report Share Posted March 10, 2013 Also the V1 is terrible for motors - the main reason it couldn't take anything above a M110 was that the EG560 motor it used was too weak, and modifying the gearbox shell to fit a better motor (the form factor was drastically different) was a pain in the *rickroll*. Link to post Share on other sites
aznriptide859 Posted March 10, 2013 Author Report Share Posted March 10, 2013 Well I managed to got a TM FAMAS in pieces for $50 - looks like the project might come to fruition. I'll admit I've never worked on a FAMAS before, so I'd have to look at the parts first and see what I'd need to do first before making a final/educated decision on what to power the gun with. Link to post Share on other sites
Paleblue Posted March 11, 2013 Report Share Posted March 11, 2013 If I recall correctly, the JP famas gearbox is pre-modified to accept "modern" AEG motors. Getting your hands on a gearbox shell might be better than modding the TM gearbox yourself. Link to post Share on other sites
FHairsoft1 Posted March 13, 2013 Report Share Posted March 13, 2013 http://www.arniesairsoft.co.uk/forums/index.php?showtopic=53567&hl=Famas+hop+up this might help. some of the pics are gone Link to post Share on other sites
my_plague_666 Posted March 14, 2013 Report Share Posted March 14, 2013 Isn't that essentially now just an FN2000 with a g36c top rail? nah, the XA23 is the F2000's slimmer, more attractive sister. haha, i remember drooling over pics of this build when i was new to the airsoft scene. Link to post Share on other sites
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