Jagdraben Posted September 23, 2013 Report Share Posted September 23, 2013 In case anyone doesn't know and presuming this hasn't been posted elsewhere: Link. The United States Army has finally announced a winner to their obscenely long and drawn out search for a camouflage to replace the debacle that is UCP and the winner is... Crye. The Army is supposed to be adopting three versions: A woodland version, a desert version, and a transitional version. I suspect that the transitional version will be similar to the standard Multicam we've all come to know and love (and has been issued by the US Army for use in Afghanistan for years). Transitional is supposed to be used for garrison uniforms and, I suspect, for items like plate carriers, LBE, packs, &c. So it only took the Army, what, ten years to figure out what they already knew back when they adopted UCP and actually correct their mistake. Better a decade late than never, right? Link to post Share on other sites
maccrage Posted September 23, 2013 Report Share Posted September 23, 2013 Meh. I'll keep my NWU Type III. Link to post Share on other sites
Jagdraben Posted September 23, 2013 Author Report Share Posted September 23, 2013 Congress might disagree. Link to post Share on other sites
maccrage Posted September 23, 2013 Report Share Posted September 23, 2013 Nope. Retired in June. I get to wear what I want. Link to post Share on other sites
Jagdraben Posted September 23, 2013 Author Report Share Posted September 23, 2013 Oh. Well. Fine. Be that way. Link to post Share on other sites
Gunmane Posted September 24, 2013 Report Share Posted September 24, 2013 The United States Army has finally announced a winner to their obscenely long and drawn out search for a camouflage to replace the debacle that is UCP and the winner is... Crye. Clearly olive drab was a better choice, but no one wanted to produce it... This day in age, you just have to shake your head at the amount of time spent on making patterns when simple solid colors have enough of a history to be a battle-proven concept. Link to post Share on other sites
Jagdraben Posted September 24, 2013 Author Report Share Posted September 24, 2013 Clearly olive drab was a better choice, but no one wanted to produce it... This day in age, you just have to shake your head at the amount of time spent on making patterns when simple solid colors have enough of a history to be a battle-proven concept. Camouflage works better. The only reason it took us so long was that we weren't making a science of it until recently. And prior to that wearing camouflage was a good way to get shot as it was something mostly only our enemies did. The Israelis wear OD, but I suspect that given their primary battlefield is urban, where camouflage really doesn't work very well, they are more concerned about positively ID'ing friend from foe and preventing blue-on-blue. Link to post Share on other sites
Skarclaw Posted September 24, 2013 Report Share Posted September 24, 2013 acu/arpat was a disaster - what on earth were they thinking!? Somebody needs to give that a real good look over Would like to see the new patterns as whilst I think multicam is a very good camoflague it still depends on the environment and I don't think it was quite "multi" enough to be suitable for woodland. side thought: Camo patterns tend to have pretty good staying power compared to other military innovations. I wonder if this will be the last conventional camouflage before stuff like active camo and things get going. I think the first camo patterns were used on warships - which seem likely candidates for cloaking or something Link to post Share on other sites
Jagdraben Posted September 25, 2013 Author Report Share Posted September 25, 2013 Hyperstealth is supposed to have something that makes the person wearing it effectively invisible. But they won't let people see it for fear of giving the bad guys ideas. Which tells me that it's probably somewhat simpler and less spectacular than it might sound like. Anyway. I've not seen the new patterns from Crye, but I understand the transitional pattern is supposed to be very similar to MultiCam. And I think - but am not certain - that I have seen the new arid/desert pattern: Think MultiCam pattern with DDPM colors. Link to post Share on other sites
Megalomaniac Posted September 25, 2013 Report Share Posted September 25, 2013 Technically multicam is a digitally generated pattern that uses organic shapes instead of the standard digital square block shapes. Link to post Share on other sites
Jagdraben Posted September 26, 2013 Author Report Share Posted September 26, 2013 Technically multicam is a digitally generated pattern that uses organic shapes instead of the standard digital square block shapes. Was there anyone doubting this? Link to post Share on other sites
Misfit Posted September 26, 2013 Report Share Posted September 26, 2013 Where the hell did you come from Jagd? Welcome back. Link to post Share on other sites
Siavash Posted September 26, 2013 Report Share Posted September 26, 2013 That article didnt say anything about Crye's multicam winning?? If you read it it says Crye is part of the finalist, and new camo is like MC. Theres actually a family of camo being introduced. One for every enviroment. Link to post Share on other sites
Jagdraben Posted September 26, 2013 Author Report Share Posted September 26, 2013 Where the hell did you come from Jagd? Welcome back. What? I'm not back. I'm only in your head. I appreciate the thought, though. Or I would. If this were real. That article didnt say anything about Crye's multicam winning?? If you read it it says Crye is part of the finalist, and new camo is like MC. Theres actually a family of camo being introduced. One for every enviroment. Nobody else said that MultiCam won, either. Link to post Share on other sites
Siavash Posted September 26, 2013 Report Share Posted September 26, 2013 Sorry must of got it mistaken for another forum..ignore me lol Link to post Share on other sites
JCheeseright Posted September 26, 2013 Report Share Posted September 26, 2013 I think the problem with that one there is everyone sees Crye and immediately assumes Multicam, because it's their most famous product! Link to post Share on other sites
Jagdraben Posted September 27, 2013 Author Report Share Posted September 27, 2013 I think the problem with that one there is everyone sees Crye and immediately assumes Multicam, because it's their most famous product! From what I understand, the transitional pattern will be similar to Multicam. Which might just mean that it has some sort of better NIR properties than "old" Multicam. Link to post Share on other sites
TheFull9 Posted September 28, 2013 Report Share Posted September 28, 2013 Just wish they'd bloody hurry up and make the announcement so I can figure out if I want to buy some of whatever it is. And if I do, whether I just want the apparel or full-on LBE + pouches. At least one of the three's bound to look decent, I'm sure and every nylon kit manufacturer in the US is going to start pumping out gear in all of the patterns as soon as they're physically able. Link to post Share on other sites
Jagdraben Posted September 28, 2013 Author Report Share Posted September 28, 2013 It's the Army. They love the hurry up and wait game. They've only known which one was the winner for nearly a year, now. And they were supposed to announce the winner back in June on the Army's birthday. So who knows. Last I heard, the official announcement is supposed to be sometime in October. Personally, I intend to stick with CB. Works with MARPAT, Crye, Kryptek, and civvies. And pretty much everything else, too. Link to post Share on other sites
Cannonfodder80 Posted October 1, 2013 Report Share Posted October 1, 2013 Now are the other branches of the forces going to get the same camo pattern or will they insist on carrying on the practice of insisting on having their own patterns? As a side note the old dazzle patterns on warships wasn't done to hide the ship but to make it harder to work out speed and direction of travel when viewed through a sub periscope HMS Argus in dazzle pattern 1918 Link to post Share on other sites
scorch Posted October 1, 2013 Report Share Posted October 1, 2013 HMS Ironing Board. Link to post Share on other sites
hitmanNo2 Posted October 2, 2013 Report Share Posted October 2, 2013 Can't see any ship there. Just a zebra. Link to post Share on other sites
Jagdraben Posted October 2, 2013 Author Report Share Posted October 2, 2013 Now are the other branches of the forces going to get the same camo pattern or will they insist on carrying on the practice of insisting on having their own patterns? As a side note the old dazzle patterns on warships wasn't done to hide the ship but to make it harder to work out speed and direction of travel when viewed through a sub periscope HMS Argus in dazzle pattern 1918 Congress has mandated that the services standardize their patterns by 2018, IIRC. Can't see any ship there. Just a zebra. What? No. Zebras don't swim.... Link to post Share on other sites
hitmanNo2 Posted October 2, 2013 Report Share Posted October 2, 2013 Link to post Share on other sites
Jagdraben Posted October 12, 2013 Author Report Share Posted October 12, 2013 And now it's sounding like it is going to be just Multicam. And not a family of Crye camouflages. We'll see. Link to post Share on other sites
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