Deadmeat Posted January 24, 2016 Report Share Posted January 24, 2016 Fancy rail for TM SCAR finally (angry gun doesn't love money apparently), .308 GBB, EBB ACR... PTS wants my money. +1 on the ERG Masada ACR. I knew it was in the works but after owning a RM4 ERG AND NOW to see that they are seriously going to release the rear wired ERG Masada is very exciting. It just makes me wonder if the parts to my old PTS Masada will fit this new ERG model?? Link to post Share on other sites
LooneyAirsoft Posted January 25, 2016 Report Share Posted January 25, 2016 The exact details I'm sure can't be disclosed for legal reasons, as is usually the case with these things. However, point being, KWA didn't just stop making them to scorn their users. It was the result of litigation. The fact that KWA continue to stock replacement parts and magazines should be proof enough that they weren't looking to hurt the users. KWA did make these for quite a while even after litigation/lawsuits were being discussed. It felt like a year or two, so I thought nothing came out of it. That's too bad. Link to post Share on other sites
vorpalbunnie Posted January 25, 2016 Report Share Posted January 25, 2016 KWA did make these for quite a while even after litigation/lawsuits were being discussed. It felt like a year or two, so I thought nothing came out of it. That's too bad. Did KWA get in legal issues or Yih Kai? Because I still see these pop up in Asian stores from time to time. Link to post Share on other sites
thatguy404 Posted January 25, 2016 Report Share Posted January 25, 2016 Was expecting the details of the AK erg to come out.Sadly. Link to post Share on other sites
Deadmeat Posted January 25, 2016 Report Share Posted January 25, 2016 Was expecting the details of the AK erg to come out. Sadly. Not sure if this is enough to wet your appetite? Link to post Share on other sites
thatguy404 Posted January 25, 2016 Report Share Posted January 25, 2016 Swish ta. Link to post Share on other sites
Gunmane Posted January 26, 2016 Report Share Posted January 26, 2016 So, they kept sending it back because the producers kept removing one thing for another, and it uses only the forward tube area for battery space because "getting the dust cover back on is too much of a hassle" is the gist I get from that vid. Link to post Share on other sites
thatguy404 Posted January 26, 2016 Report Share Posted January 26, 2016 It's still a shame there's no reciprocal bolt. Forward gas tube isn't too much grief, re battery. Still means I can make a ak105 without too much drama Link to post Share on other sites
renegadecow Posted January 26, 2016 Report Share Posted January 26, 2016 You can't have a moving bolt and have firing stop at the same time as it would just keep resetting itself. Link to post Share on other sites
thatguy404 Posted January 26, 2016 Report Share Posted January 26, 2016 Quite a logical explanation. Must be ways around it? An optical sensor maybe. Either or a stop on empty ak is no bad thing. Link to post Share on other sites
LooneyAirsoft Posted January 26, 2016 Report Share Posted January 26, 2016 Did KWA get in legal issues or Yih Kai? Because I still see these pop up in Asian stores from time to time. I wouldn't doubt KWA at least. Yih Kai maybe depending on international suit (e.g. Taiwan) is possible or not. It's still a shame there's no reciprocal bolt.Forward gas tube isn't too much grief, re battery. Still means I can make a ak105 without too much drama Doesn't the TM AK AK100's have a reciprocating bolt? Link to post Share on other sites
vorpalbunnie Posted January 26, 2016 Report Share Posted January 26, 2016 Doesn't the TM AK AK100's have a reciprocating bolt? Yes it does. Bolt stop can be added with one of those fancy hop up FET things and it can take standard magazines with a $20 adaptor. Link to post Share on other sites
Zereck Posted January 26, 2016 Report Share Posted January 26, 2016 So, they kept sending it back because the producers kept removing one thing for another, and it uses only the forward tube area for battery space because "getting the dust cover back on is too much of a hassle" is the gist I get from that vid. Isn't the battery is placed into the forend because the recoil weight is under the dust cover? Link to post Share on other sites
ShakingBanana Posted January 26, 2016 Report Share Posted January 26, 2016 Anyone get any info on the release date or pricing for the ERG Masada? Link to post Share on other sites
Cannonfodder80 Posted January 30, 2016 Report Share Posted January 30, 2016 Isn't the battery is placed into the forend because the recoil weight is under the dust cover? That's what I thought he said Link to post Share on other sites
LooneyAirsoft Posted January 31, 2016 Report Share Posted January 31, 2016 That's what I thought he said I don't recall the erg changing after the years? Link to post Share on other sites
Tank Posted February 2, 2016 Report Share Posted February 2, 2016 KWA will have problems with the Python...Cybergun still has the Colt license and they will definitely try to put the kibosh on it. Unless KWA is going to pay CG fro license use. Link to post Share on other sites
renegadecow Posted February 2, 2016 Report Share Posted February 2, 2016 Absolutely ridiculous considering Colt stopped making them in 1999, but Cybergone will undoubtedly try come to think of it. Link to post Share on other sites
Tank Posted February 2, 2016 Report Share Posted February 2, 2016 Oh, CG also has a license with Schmeisser for the MP40. Link to post Share on other sites
renegadecow Posted February 2, 2016 Report Share Posted February 2, 2016 Now THAT is total BS. In reality, Schmeisser had nothing to do with the development of the MP40 and merely became a nickname by the Americans. It's as pathetic as their putting the face of dear old Mikhail on their AKs. Link to post Share on other sites
Brigg Posted February 2, 2016 Author Report Share Posted February 2, 2016 Ok, history lesson! Having a 'license' with Schmeisser is pretty much useless. Schmeisser was the name of a man, not a company. That man being Hugo Scmeisser, who invented the mp18 and mp28. The mp40 was designed by Heinrich Vollmer and produced primarily by ERMA werke. The only relation Scmeisser has to the mp40 is that Scmeissers's son violated the patent on the mp40 to design the mp41. Cybergun would need a license from ERMA, a company which no longer exists. Not only that, but since the mp40 was designed and patented in the 1930's, its design and look is no longer protected by any legal means. When GSG made the 22lr mp40, they needed no license from anyone. As a side note, having a license to 'Schmeisser' wouldn't even allow you to make licensed mp18s or mp28's, as those were produced by Bergmann and Haenel. That's of course if you even needed a license at all, which you don't. Link to post Share on other sites
renegadecow Posted February 2, 2016 Report Share Posted February 2, 2016 "Official product" must be legit. Link to post Share on other sites
Brigg Posted February 2, 2016 Author Report Share Posted February 2, 2016 Hah, that's awesome. An 'official' Schmeisser mp40 is like having an 'official' Stoner glock 17. Link to post Share on other sites
Tank Posted February 2, 2016 Report Share Posted February 2, 2016 Brigg - The actual history of a firearm has never prevented Cybergun (or others) from getting a license for something and doing what they want with said license. Nor has it stopped CG from suing over it. They also distributed an STG44 under the Schmeisser license. There's never been a production AK with Kalashinikov's name on it, but CG has a license and slaps him name/face on AKs. They also slap a Mauser trade on an Accuracy International design. I could go on, but I won't.Now, the Schmeisser license is a priority for CG so they may not choose to actually take legal action, but they will at least threaten to do so. FWIW, I'm aware of the history of the MP40 and many other firearms. CG doesn't know/care about firearms history, unless it suits their needs. When I worked for CG I pointed out all kinds of problems with their licensing practices (and other practices) which were pretty much entirely ignored. Using licenses for a gun that was never produced under that name is the least of their sins. Link to post Share on other sites
hitmanNo2 Posted February 2, 2016 Report Share Posted February 2, 2016 What's their address? Can we send them a big box of *suitcase*? Link to post Share on other sites
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