Guinness Posted October 24, 2006 Report Share Posted October 24, 2006 Referring article just in from the Continent- http://www.airsoft-news.eu/news.php (currently 2nd item) Ohhh looky! a Walnut M1 Garand! But what is the middle one? Also the new 8mm Blowback MP40- hope its built better than their PFC gun And looking at the Mauser 'rifle' I wonder if they are just sourcing this from HFC anyway.......... Slainte! -G Link to post Share on other sites
jimseery Posted October 24, 2006 Report Share Posted October 24, 2006 Any idea on prices and availability? I already have the HFC broomhandle but I would love to have one that is blowback with a full auto option. Pretty much the same with the carbine. Link to post Share on other sites
Lt.Fenix Posted October 24, 2006 Report Share Posted October 24, 2006 Why do they have to make them in 8mm? I did a quick calculation, and with 0.34g bb's and 1 joule, they would fly at about 76.7 m/s... a whole 1/4 reduction in velocity...approximately coming to 240 fps or so... compared to 328fps with 0.2g's. Coupled with that, 8mm bb's being way more expensive, it makes these guns impractical for skirmishing with. I really hope they start making 6mm versions of these guns.. because I would definitely get blowback versions of the mp40 and mauser m712 (and probably an m2 carbine) if they were available in 6mm. Link to post Share on other sites
Rapier Posted October 24, 2006 Report Share Posted October 24, 2006 Umm, most Marushin guns are shooting way over UK limits. Granted with the new japanese .98j laws in effect that may all change. I know the old ones (M1 and M1 carbine) where running over 400fps with 134a! Link to post Share on other sites
otherrandomhero Posted October 25, 2006 Report Share Posted October 25, 2006 I think i saw this before in the news section, actually i'm 100% positive this was in here before Link to post Share on other sites
phoenixkskg Posted October 25, 2006 Report Share Posted October 25, 2006 Too much 8mm faggotry. Link to post Share on other sites
nuclear_darkness Posted October 25, 2006 Report Share Posted October 25, 2006 The m1 carbine isnt news but afaik the rest of it is new news. Im seriously wanting the carbine especialy if its compatable with their old short style mags. Plenty of people will be after that mp40 as well if its skirmishable. Link to post Share on other sites
Guinness Posted October 25, 2006 Author Report Share Posted October 25, 2006 I think i saw this before in the news section, actually i'm 100% positive this was in here before <{POST_SNAPBACK}> Really? this pic just came out today and I posted the M1 info days ago http://www.arniesairsoft.co.uk/forums/inde...showtopic=83654 -G Link to post Share on other sites
fal Posted October 25, 2006 Report Share Posted October 25, 2006 omg I would be drooling over that broomhandle. Finaly a GBB!! But..why....oh WHY has to be 8mm.....please make it in 6mm. Link to post Share on other sites
snowman Posted October 25, 2006 Report Share Posted October 25, 2006 And looking at the Mauser 'rifle' I wonder if they are just sourcing this from HFC anyway.......... Slainte! -G <{POST_SNAPBACK}> mmmmm - couldn't be the other way round, could it? The Marushin NBB Carbine was released YEARS before the HFC one. Cheers. Link to post Share on other sites
Utty Posted October 25, 2006 Report Share Posted October 25, 2006 Heh heh, surely you jest? Since when did HFC rip off complete designs from other airsoft manufacturers? Surely it is Marushin who is teh shameless copycat - since when did they bring anything new and original to the airsoft market? Link to post Share on other sites
renegadecow Posted October 25, 2006 Report Share Posted October 25, 2006 I think he meant Marushin to use rebranded HFC guns being a lot cheaper so that they could rake in more moneys. And are there existing 8mm to 6mm convertions out there to please the Marushin-loving-but-hates-8mm crowd? Link to post Share on other sites
sekiryu Posted October 25, 2006 Report Share Posted October 25, 2006 The m1 carbine isnt news but afaik the rest of it is new news. That's not a M1 Carbine, that's a M2 Carbine. Basically the same thing, except select-fire. Link to post Share on other sites
Utty Posted October 25, 2006 Report Share Posted October 25, 2006 I think he meant Marushin to use rebranded HFC guns being a lot cheaper so that they could rake in more moneys.<{POST_SNAPBACK}> Haha, Marushin selling rebranded HFC guns... that'll be the day. Link to post Share on other sites
MARQUISADOR Posted October 26, 2006 Report Share Posted October 26, 2006 Why can't the BREN be blowback, everything else is. Link to post Share on other sites
Shinden Posted October 26, 2006 Report Share Posted October 26, 2006 Marushin did make original items if you were to recall Utty. And to note, Marushin used to make 6mm variations of the guns, but they were non blowback. 8mm became more popular because of the larger size and weight of the BB and can inflict the same energy upon impact or even more (less to at time) compared to a 6mm. And no Marushin won't be meddling with HFC to "rake in more money'. The company is not like that and they have thier own R&D branch. Link to post Share on other sites
sirrith Posted October 26, 2006 Report Share Posted October 26, 2006 WHYYYY now i have to decide between the m2 carbine and the TM thompson... that m2 carbine better not be perfect, otherwise ill HAVE to get it.. Link to post Share on other sites
Guinness Posted October 26, 2006 Author Report Share Posted October 26, 2006 Why can't the BREN be blowback, everything else is. <{POST_SNAPBACK}> I second that And the Detonics Link to post Share on other sites
Yith Posted October 26, 2006 Report Share Posted October 26, 2006 8mm Why-o-why! If they were AEGs then the MP40 and garand might be slightly interesting. Instead all we have is a few more collectors guns. Link to post Share on other sites
Utty Posted October 26, 2006 Report Share Posted October 26, 2006 Marushin did make original items if you were to recall Utty. And to note, Marushin used to make 6mm variations of the guns, but they were non blowback. 8mm became more popular because of the larger size and weight of the BB and can inflict the same energy upon impact or even more (less to at time) compared to a 6mm. And no Marushin won't be meddling with HFC to "rake in more money'. The company is not like that and they have thier own R&D branch. <{POST_SNAPBACK}> Dude, dude, dude... I was being sarcastic. I'm perfectly aware that Marushin doesn't copy anything, they've made some very original models through the years. The excellent Uzi AEG comes to mind, sweet gun. Link to post Share on other sites
Lance Jackass Posted October 26, 2006 Report Share Posted October 26, 2006 I must admit these "older" guns do look more aesthetically pleasing I would have thought that they've lost a great deal of sales by making them 8mm though. That 98k - is that the cartidge loading jobby or the gas mag one, my memory fails me. Link to post Share on other sites
Lt.Fenix Posted October 27, 2006 Report Share Posted October 27, 2006 8mm became more popular because of the larger size and weight of the BB and can inflict the same energy upon impact or even more (less to at time) compared to a 6mm. <{POST_SNAPBACK}> Uhh. yeah. that's only because 8mm guns have to use more gas volume to create more pressure behind the bb to accelerate it to velocities similar to a 6mm, which would use less gas. If you start with the assumption that both bbs are being propelled with the same amount of gas, assuming the same energy is applied, then theoretically both bbs will inflict the same "energy" upon impact. The 8mm could possibly have less drag due to the fact that its frontal surface area increases by the square whereas its volume, and hence its mass, increases by the cube. But considering the sizes of the bbs I dont think air drag would be a big enough issue. The main difference would be that the 8mm would apply a greater impulse to the target since its velocity goes down by the square root, while its mass increases by regular multiple. This means it will impact with a larger peak force since the force applied is the time derivative of the impulse. In other words, I think you're being misleading. Link to post Share on other sites
Sledge Posted October 27, 2006 Report Share Posted October 27, 2006 Oh, FFS Marushin! They go to all the bother of making interesting guns, then waste them in 8mm. Where's the 6mm blowback Detonics? Link to post Share on other sites
Spedz Posted October 27, 2006 Report Share Posted October 27, 2006 And who said WA are for those Materially wealthy? Everyone knows if you skirmish with a Marushin you're well off Link to post Share on other sites
El_Hombre Posted October 27, 2006 Report Share Posted October 27, 2006 ...Marushin-loving-but-hates-8mm... <{POST_SNAPBACK}> Contradictory term. Link to post Share on other sites
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