NegativeCambre Posted February 22, 2007 Report Share Posted February 22, 2007 (edited) I bought me a JG G608 from the hip--I was in the mood for a new project/loaner/chinese clone and heard good whisperings about this one, found one for sale, and bought it. I have limited experience with G36 AEG's outside of fondling a few at AEX--namely a CA G36K. I really like the ergonomic, 21st century feel of the gun--the typically H&K-ness of the packaging. I however, didn't like it enough to blow primary AEG money on it to get name-brand G36. To give the reader some sort of background on my own clone experience, I have owned a CYMA CM028s for half a year now, done extensive work on a friends CM031, and have lots of first hand experience with the UTG Mp5, albeit never as an owner or 'mechanic.' Hello, I am your next AEG. Let us get this out of the way: This "clone" is the best of the bunch, hands down, full stop, etc. I've dubbed mine the "WTF" gun because that is commonly the experience it has elicited--from my first handling of my new AEG ("oh man, WTF?") to my friends numerous "WTF's" of their own. When you hand them the gun, ready to rock and roll with battery, and tell them how much it costs, it will undoubtably elicit a "WHAT THE ****." My G608 cost me around 85 dollars (INCLUDING SHIPPING!) from Point Act wholesalers. Albeit, I did have to purchase 150 dollars worth of stuff from their shop to qualify for purchase (they are a wholesaler, afterall.). This AEG doesn't feel like 85 dollars worth of thing. IT. IS. EXCELLENT. It is weighty, it is solid, it is rigid, the texture feels awesome, the metal bits are finished well, the plastic is consistent and feels high quality, the stock locks completely solid. Think of all the blow you can buy with all the money you save. Flash hider is excellent. Solid and well-cut. Just like my abs. The gas block? That's metal too. Anything you expect to be metal pretty much is. The wiring is a stout gauge, completely unlike the hair-thin wiring CYMA shoves into their guns. This, I believe, speaks to the air of quality that pervades the entire AEG. I haven't opened the gearbox yet, but I will soon to perhaps tune-down the spring (they are supposed to shoot around 360fps stock!!!), reshim it and throw some metal bushings in. It fires viciously--each shot is accompanied with a hearty THWACK, characteristic of a higher-FPS gun. The motor seems quiet enough, with most of the noise coming from what I can assume is a poorly shimmed gearbox, but I won't make final judgement there yet. With a decent 8.4v mini battery (I haven't tried the one that came with it yet) the ROF seems more then acceptable, but I hope to pick up a few rounds a second with a good shim job, and even more if I decide to throw in a CA spring. Excellent, consistent texture. Lack of trademarks can be offputing for some buyers With the stock folded, it is compact and agile. Small enough to take with you to your blow deal. Just in case you don't know these things, here is my G36 in comparison to my Colt Commando--very comparable in both size and mission I've done a very informal accuracy test while sighting the AEG in, and was extremely impressed. I'll have a better understanding of this things stock (or, as it may be by then... stock-ish) skirmishing ability this weekend, but as far as I can tell, the thing shoots straight and consistently, with a well built hopup that holds its 'level' very well. I couldn't honestly be happier with the quality and value of this el-cheapo gun. The CYMA CM028 series used to be my benchmark for 'excellent airsoft value,' but there is just no comparison between the two. You can look over the CYMA and find a half dozen element on the exterior alone that scream 'cost saving measure,' but, perhaps disturbingly, I cannot find one, save the lack of trademarks, on the JG G36C. It really is a mystery--how is this gun so cheap? I'm looking forward to tearing apart the internals and promise to take many pictures of various components to further illustrate: this thing is quality. Buy one. Buy two. If you have ever considered adding a G36 to your collection but just haven't been motivated to put down real cash, buy one of these. I really can't see how you would be disappointed. Here is my highest endorsement: This is the first clone I have owned or even handled that I feel like I am deffinetely going to use in a skirmish as surogate for one of my Tokyo Maruis from time to time. My past history with clones has been to introduce new players to the sport, and they have been fantasticly suited for that mission. But this one--I'm going to use it. I like it that much, the refinement is that high, and the fun-factor that pegged. Did I mention it rocks? Steve Edited February 22, 2007 by NegativeCambre Quote Link to post Share on other sites
zentaurus Posted February 22, 2007 Report Share Posted February 22, 2007 Did I mention it rocks? <{POST_SNAPBACK}> hoooahh, it sure does would have gotten that if i didn't prefer the K. besides, i have the ump on my wish list nice review starter. how's the fire selector? crispy clicks, or misses every now and then? zT Quote Link to post Share on other sites
rifleman Posted February 22, 2007 Report Share Posted February 22, 2007 Any chance you could PM me the wholesaler's web addy etc as I'm currently looking for a team AEG that I can downgrade for CQB and I don't want to spend more than I have to. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
NegativeCambre Posted February 22, 2007 Author Report Share Posted February 22, 2007 Google search 'point act.' I think there has been some discussion on if they are willing to ship to the UK or not--WGC I believe also carries these guns for the same price, and I really can't imagine you'd save on shipping from the US instead of from Hong Kong. Zen, I'll be sure to give a detailed review of what I find when I crack it open. Some 3rd party evidence has suggested that the motors that come with JG's are of a much higher quality then CYMA's motors. I'm confident with a downrated spring and a shim job, this thing will purr like a kitten. Hope I'm right! Steve Quote Link to post Share on other sites
rifleman Posted February 22, 2007 Report Share Posted February 22, 2007 Thanks for the info anyway. I've e-mailed Point Act and if they do ship to UK then I'll compare prices. If they don't, it's WGC or one of the other HK retailers. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
NegativeCambre Posted February 22, 2007 Author Report Share Posted February 22, 2007 Hopefully I'll be getting to AEX this afternoon to get the internal bits that I need, and while I'm there I'll chrono this puppy, probably on .25's (all I got, and I don't like mooching their BB's ). Steve Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Noodle_2000 Posted February 22, 2007 Report Share Posted February 22, 2007 Wow, nice review. I like your pictures, good quality. Gary B. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
mtdarkwolf Posted February 22, 2007 Report Share Posted February 22, 2007 do you think this is compatible with any of the sl8 conversion kits? Quote Link to post Share on other sites
The Crunchy Bunny Posted February 23, 2007 Report Share Posted February 23, 2007 Damn, I want one of these, but I want CM031 modified to an AKM to. Oh! what to do! But, I need to sell off some springers first. Anybody want a triggerless WELL MR-799, WELL mP5K PDW and DE G36? CM031 or JG G36C which one! Quote Link to post Share on other sites
NegativeCambre Posted February 23, 2007 Author Report Share Posted February 23, 2007 I have no idea about SL8 compatability, but given that it is a virtual 100% copy of the TM's and CA's G36C, I can't see why it wouldn't. Crunchy Bunny, I have first hand experience with both the 031 and now this JG, and I'd have to say I find the JG to be the much better value. Steve Quote Link to post Share on other sites
vgdailynews01 Posted February 23, 2007 Report Share Posted February 23, 2007 (edited) I have no idea about SL8 compatability, but given that it is a virtual 100% copy of the TM's and CA's G36C, I can't see why it wouldn't. Crunchy Bunny, I have first hand experience with both the 031 and now this JG, and I'd have to say I find the JG to be the much better value. Steve <{POST_SNAPBACK}> So, wait, what's it chonoing stock with an 8.4? Also, will the Private Parts magwell work with? And is the flashhider a clockwise or counter-clockwise screw? Edited February 23, 2007 by vgdailynews01 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
NegativeCambre Posted February 23, 2007 Author Report Share Posted February 23, 2007 So, wait, what's it chonoing stock with an 8.4? Also, will the Private Parts magwell work with? And is the flashhider a clockwise or counter-clockwise screw? <{POST_SNAPBACK}> Chrono's 336fps with .25's. Flashhider is most certainly the standard 14mm anti-clockwise I would assume... Steve Quote Link to post Share on other sites
psycho Posted February 23, 2007 Report Share Posted February 23, 2007 yes by the way the private parts magwell adaptor does fit i think trooperx has one on his jg g36 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
The Crunchy Bunny Posted February 24, 2007 Report Share Posted February 24, 2007 I think I'll get this. And some Flecktarn lol. I really need a short barreled CQB gun. I'm tired of using my stockless CYMA AK for that lol. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
psycho Posted February 26, 2007 Report Share Posted February 26, 2007 ive allready got my flecktarn im ordering mine in early march Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Cons Posted February 26, 2007 Report Share Posted February 26, 2007 Ime thinking of getting this and your review has pretty much convinced me, oh and BTW Airsoft World have all of the the LPHP guns for sale on their site Quote Link to post Share on other sites
DarkLite Posted February 27, 2007 Report Share Posted February 27, 2007 (edited) do you think this is compatible with any of the sl8 conversion kits? <{POST_SNAPBACK}> So, wait, what's it chonoing stock with an 8.4? Also, will the Private Parts magwell work with? And is the flashhider a clockwise or counter-clockwise screw? <{POST_SNAPBACK}> YES. Whatever fits on the TM, fits on this. THEY ARE 100% COMPATIBLE. EVERYTHING IS THE SAME EXCEPT THE MAG IS A HICAP AND THE BODY HAS NO TRADES. Edited February 27, 2007 by DarkLite Quote Link to post Share on other sites
MARQUISADOR Posted March 2, 2007 Report Share Posted March 2, 2007 Does anyone know how this and the ECHO 1 G36c compare? Quote Link to post Share on other sites
PlasticMag Posted March 2, 2007 Report Share Posted March 2, 2007 Same gun. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
NegativeCambre Posted March 2, 2007 Author Report Share Posted March 2, 2007 I've had a chance to open this gun up now--sorry no photographs. But the internals look about the same in quality to a CYMA gearbox--except that it reacts strangely to metal bushings. Extremely tight fit--not in diameter, but in the actual shimming--I'm pretty unhappy with the way I had to go ahead with it, some bushings aren't running *any* shims and its still a little "tight." I'm hoping that its the fault of the gearbox itself and not the gears--because gearboxes are relatively inexpensive, but gears are not. With the bushings installed, the thing is still a little 'whinny' and even though I downgraded the spring to a stock classic army, the ROF didn't improve much. I blame this on the tightness of the bushings/gears--probably a lot more friction. Hopefully the gearbox will 'break in' and I'll see performance improve, but I'm a little disapointed. Also, the high-quality gauge wire does *not* continue through the gearbox, it drops back down to CYMA-sized wiring past the female connector that connects the main wiring harness. Still, this doesn't change my initial verdict much, considering that many people are reporting decent logevity and good performance at bone-stock levels, but I was hoping to be able to push the gun up in terms of refinement, and in that respect, I have failed thus sofar. Is it as good as the Classic Army and Tokyo Marui? Its closer then a discrepency of nearly 200 dollars should allow, but it still falls short in some crucial areas. A fantastic project gun, no questions asked, but not the ridiculously incredible option I may have initially thought it was. Steve Quote Link to post Share on other sites
ruvon Posted March 2, 2007 Report Share Posted March 2, 2007 now, question, do you have the version one or the version two. I belive I have the version 2 with the m120 spring. My local crack dealer, errr, airsoft shoppe, hadn't chronoed the one he got till I told him to. Cash in hand I waited with baited breathe. Before I could even slam the 160 down on the counter he was dancing around with a reading of 380.... WTF?!?!?!?! It went home with me that night! Quote Link to post Share on other sites
NegativeCambre Posted March 2, 2007 Author Report Share Posted March 2, 2007 No idea if I have v1 of v2--but it did chrono at 336fps w/ .25's. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
DarkLite Posted March 3, 2007 Report Share Posted March 3, 2007 As for the bushings, I found that ELEMENT 6mm metal bushings seem to fit JG gearboxes the best. Worth a try. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
NegativeCambre Posted March 3, 2007 Author Report Share Posted March 3, 2007 As for the bushings, I found that ELEMENT 6mm metal bushings seem to fit JG gearboxes the best. Worth a try. <{POST_SNAPBACK}> Thanks for the protip DarkLite In your experience with JG's, do you attribute the close-fitting of the gearbox to the shell itself or the gears used? The CYMA's I've toyed with have gears marked the same (XYT) but I'm not sure that really means consistency in dimensions-- Steve Quote Link to post Share on other sites
DarkLite Posted March 3, 2007 Report Share Posted March 3, 2007 Thanks for the protip DarkLite In your experience with JG's, do you attribute the close-fitting of the gearbox to the shell itself or the gears used? The CYMA's I've toyed with have gears marked the same (XYT) but I'm not sure that really means consistency in dimensions-- Steve <{POST_SNAPBACK}> It's a combination of the fact that XYT gears have varying axel widths, the fact that the different manufacturers have different bushing-hole widths in thier gearboxes, and the fact that different bushing manufacturers have different sizes too. Still, I find that ELEMENT bushings have the best price and fitting. Speaking of which, the newer guns have better gears - the JG AUG (the latest JG AEG) I upgraded the other day took the bushings as a drop-in fit whereas the older JG G36c I worked one was an utter ###### with the bushings - requiring filing of the bushings and the axles to get a fit. My REALLY ancient CYMA Mp5j (FIRST GEN - one of the first guns in the first shipment to Hong Kong) has such wonky gear axles that the bushings stuck to the GEARS and not to the gearBOX. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
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