kagami Posted November 28, 2015 Report Share Posted November 28, 2015 So apparently this was announced back in feb 2014 but A&K released photos recently of their finished CNC work. It's now actually a thing lol. http://wa20000hybrid85.militaryblog.jp/e712672.htmlwhat will the price be I wonder? Link to post Share on other sites
EOL Posted November 28, 2015 Report Share Posted November 28, 2015 Ohhh i got to get me one of these Link to post Share on other sites
DarkLite Posted November 28, 2015 Report Share Posted November 28, 2015 I wonder if this is a straight up copy of the Toytec or the CA. Link to post Share on other sites
renegadecow Posted November 29, 2015 Report Share Posted November 29, 2015 I'm betting it's in the $1,500 mark. Link to post Share on other sites
machgo Posted November 29, 2015 Report Share Posted November 29, 2015 At that ^ ^ ^ price I would get two!! Link to post Share on other sites
renegadecow Posted November 29, 2015 Report Share Posted November 29, 2015 That's assuming it works. The last time they released a test video the barrels were spinning like a 10 year-old spin dryer with the towels only piled on one side. Link to post Share on other sites
The Insider Posted November 30, 2015 Report Share Posted November 30, 2015 i bet the copied the CA model.... As that has to be the best designed M134.... not needing a car battery.... or being a bb grinder.If they copied any other model... its a maintenance nightmare.unless they designed a new version?? lol... A&K not making a copy... lmao.. I kill me. Link to post Share on other sites
paranoiddroid Posted December 1, 2015 Report Share Posted December 1, 2015 Doesn't the CA need a battery to spin the barrels and use an air tank to power the gun? Link to post Share on other sites
swatti Posted December 1, 2015 Report Share Posted December 1, 2015 CA has six "upper gearboxes" and one gearset spun by a battery. I'd never skirmish with it and I already have "gatling-gun" but daaaaaym I want one of these. Why? Link to post Share on other sites
DarkLite Posted December 1, 2015 Report Share Posted December 1, 2015 Doesn't the CA need a battery to spin the barrels and use an air tank to power the gun? That's the Piper's Precision Products one you're thinking of. Link to post Share on other sites
The Insider Posted December 1, 2015 Report Share Posted December 1, 2015 The CA model does need a battery to rotate the barrels, but just a 11.v lipo will do fine. And its the CAW model uses a motorcycle battery i think... lol Link to post Share on other sites
Horsem4n Posted December 1, 2015 Report Share Posted December 1, 2015 Yeah, P3 sold the rights to produce their m134 to CA. The A&K AFAIK is a copy of it. Link to post Share on other sites
TheFull9 Posted December 1, 2015 Report Share Posted December 1, 2015 What's the 'Echo1' Minigun based on? And who's the OEM? Link to post Share on other sites
ninja master of coffee Posted December 1, 2015 Report Share Posted December 1, 2015 According to redwolf who sell it, CAW. They also mention the 12v motorcycle battery. Out of interest, what kind of impact do these actually have on an airsoft game? My immediate thought it "terror weapon". Link to post Share on other sites
hitmanNo2 Posted December 1, 2015 Report Share Posted December 1, 2015 'Oh *suitcase*. That guy has a minigun. Let's shoot him first' You would have to have a good team around you acting as bodyguards almost I would think. Link to post Share on other sites
paranoiddroid Posted December 1, 2015 Report Share Posted December 1, 2015 They are great as a shock and awe thing on a vehicle from what I have seen because everyone stops to do the oooh pretty. Man portable isn't something I would see happening although it would be cool to see someone with a backpack feed laying down some pain. Link to post Share on other sites
Horsem4n Posted December 2, 2015 Report Share Posted December 2, 2015 Plus, they don't have hop up. Link to post Share on other sites
ninja master of coffee Posted December 2, 2015 Report Share Posted December 2, 2015 I've always wondered about that. I guess that explains the usually rather high FPS. So, mental RoF but relatively limited range? Link to post Share on other sites
Horsem4n Posted December 3, 2015 Report Share Posted December 3, 2015 I like to think of them as lobbing machines. The Japanese version of the CAW is pretty useless, but even at 400fps from the P3 or echo 1, you can only expect 100 to 150 feet of any effective range from the ground. Now, from a helicopter... Link to post Share on other sites
jal3 Posted December 3, 2015 Report Share Posted December 3, 2015 Okay... The P3 M134 is the original. It requires an external gas source. It has an internal battery. The CA M134 is a licensed copy of the P3 one. Due to being a copy, it works the same way. The production quality is awful, don't buy it. I don't know the current draw of the motors in either. The CA manual states that the M134 have to cool off for 5min between every 500 shots IIRC. Might be due to "mini type battery" spec. It has room for a decent lipo. The CAW/Echo1 Minigun works like a real M134. It has a cylinder/piston/spring set for each barrel. They are charged by the mechanism of the barrelset rotating, like the loading/strike pin function of a real m134. It only requires a battery, but a big one. I don't know which one the A&K is a copy off, but i would never ever touch something that complicated from A&K. Generally you should hunt for used P3's. Link to post Share on other sites
hitmanNo2 Posted December 3, 2015 Report Share Posted December 3, 2015 A&K uses gas and electricity so likely a clone of P3/CA. Link to post Share on other sites
Tank Posted December 6, 2015 Report Share Posted December 6, 2015 I wonder if this is a straight up copy of the Toytec or the CA. Clone of the P3. Okay... The P3 M134 is the original. It requires an external gas source. It has an internal battery. The CA M134 is a licensed copy of the P3 one. Due to being a copy, it works the same way. The production quality is awful, don't buy it. I don't know the current draw of the motors in either. The CA manual states that the M134 have to cool off for 5min between every 500 shots IIRC. Might be due to "mini type battery" spec. It has room for a decent lipo. The CAW/Echo1 Minigun works like a real M134. It has a cylinder/piston/spring set for each barrel. They are charged by the mechanism of the barrelset rotating, like the loading/strike pin function of a real m134. It only requires a battery, but a big one. I don't know which one the A&K is a copy off, but i would never ever touch something that complicated from A&K. Generally you should hunt for used P3's. Correct/agreed. Here's an additional little tidbit....Rumor has it that A&K, did OEM for the CA....SO, you can pretty much expect the same level of quality as that found in the CA version. Link to post Share on other sites
kagami Posted December 8, 2015 Author Report Share Posted December 8, 2015 Clone of the P3. Correct/agreed. Here's an additional little tidbit....Rumor has it that A&K, did OEM for the CA....SO, you can pretty much expect the same level of quality as that found in the CA version. interesting... wonder what took them so long to cut CA out of the equation then. Link to post Share on other sites
LordElpus Posted December 8, 2015 Report Share Posted December 8, 2015 contract probably ran out. Link to post Share on other sites
svman Posted January 13, 2016 Report Share Posted January 13, 2016 This could be interesting. An affordable mini gun would mean i might actually see one with my own two peepers. The high rate of fire may make one pretty awkward to use if you want to avoid overkill and genrally upsetting anyone your shooting at Link to post Share on other sites
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