FW200 Posted January 24, 2006 Report Share Posted January 24, 2006 From another forum: Looks interesting, Dragunov has the wrong scope offcourse and wrong bipod... but if it's a decent gun.. it might be very nice.. Offcourse, seeing as UTG has only done plastic guns up until this point, will this mean they have made this one plastic as well? Link to post Share on other sites
screamin_weasel Posted January 24, 2006 Report Share Posted January 24, 2006 i hope so, or Tinkerbell might well be a bit ###### off about the cheap SVD, especially as UTG guns are gaining a decent rep. Link to post Share on other sites
Tinkerton Posted January 24, 2006 Report Share Posted January 24, 2006 It'll be plastic. Link to post Share on other sites
Angry Posted January 24, 2006 Report Share Posted January 24, 2006 I'd def be interested in a Dragunov, providing it hits our shores before the VCRB Link to post Share on other sites
Robot 2000 Posted January 24, 2006 Report Share Posted January 24, 2006 Is that going to be a springer or electric? electric SVD . . . Link to post Share on other sites
Tinkerton Posted January 24, 2006 Report Share Posted January 24, 2006 The SVD pictured is the AtoZ/KM/Head 1950/King Arms model, with the original plastic wood. Apparently, UTG will also be distributing it, as most of the other distributors have now switched over to offering it with the wood kit, for roughly the same price they originally were asking for the plastic wood model. Since somebody would need to sell the cheaper to make plastic furniture model, it seems logical that UTG would. Probably will go for around $400 USD or so. spring then. Link to post Share on other sites
Robot 2000 Posted January 24, 2006 Report Share Posted January 24, 2006 *albartroth*. What did you pay for yours then dave? Link to post Share on other sites
Tinkerton Posted January 24, 2006 Report Share Posted January 24, 2006 more than that. but i can get proper wood for next to nothing, so im good! Link to post Share on other sites
david3558 Posted January 25, 2006 Report Share Posted January 25, 2006 Where did the catalog come from? Link to post Share on other sites
clmwrx Posted January 25, 2006 Report Share Posted January 25, 2006 Probabally came with a utg gun. Link to post Share on other sites
gunfighters Posted January 26, 2006 Report Share Posted January 26, 2006 its the "shot show" spring catolag for leapers the came out this week...I just open mine today and tought I had the scoop...oh well should have opened a few dayers early when it came in... heres the rest of the eye candy for ya my money is on this gun being $175 or less...its UTG... it dosent come with a scope the one shown is a leapers mount and scope for an real steel AK "The SVD pictured is the AtoZ/KM/Head 1950/King Arms model, with the original plastic wood." I could be wrong... but in the catolag I am holding the plastic wood looks like ######. I can't imange some one playing $400 for a gun that has a stock that looked like that I realy do't think its the "same" gun.. it just looks like one, maby even made on the same tooling the UTG M807LE "looks" just like a Maruzen CA870 when they came out people claimed they were the same, they are not the UTG M0324 looks like a APS2..but its not AtoZ/KM/Head comes out of Koera...UTG guns come out of china.. on the "plastic" issue... the M-324 is ALL metal except the stock and trigger guard.. soy yes UTG has done "one" metal gun.. Link to post Share on other sites
SACSlym Posted January 26, 2006 Report Share Posted January 26, 2006 it'll be interesting when all of these hit the market, lots of fun for projects, especially since their spring models have the same bodies and external pieces, therefore allowing a cheap and easy way to scrounge for cosmetic parts. Link to post Share on other sites
Tinkerton Posted January 26, 2006 Report Share Posted January 26, 2006 if its the same as the KA/KM/A to Z/head 1950, it'll be metal. and, to be honest, to release a spring powered dragunov that takes correct mags this fast.... it'll be the same damned thing. bear in mind, people will pay $400, becuase it comes pre upgraded. Link to post Share on other sites
Jason-Alaska Posted January 27, 2006 Report Share Posted January 27, 2006 more than that. but i can get proper wood for next to nothing, so im good! <{POST_SNAPBACK}> (GRIN) Link to post Share on other sites
systema Posted January 27, 2006 Report Share Posted January 27, 2006 Please let it be under $200. Link to post Share on other sites
gunfighters Posted January 27, 2006 Report Share Posted January 27, 2006 the "gun" will be under $200 I would almost garintee that... keep in mind it dosen't come with the scope, scope mount, or bypod the M324 comes in all metal (except the stock) and comes with a bypod for $100 or less... I realy doint see the SVD being 2X the price of the M324... I would however expect the "optional" gear (scope/Mount/bypod) to come in just short of $100 as they are all RS items and just the scope and rings usaly add $50 to the M324 when sold as a Package as for perforamce.. its a UTG, best we can hope for is that it shoots as well as the m324 and there is a way to acess the inturnals the gun IS A LONG way off, I had a chat with them this moring... the beta spits is 1.5-2 mounths away and will cost about the same as the larger AK...but they were unable to to give me a price and had no info on a projected release date for the SVD. Link to post Share on other sites
Tinkerton Posted January 27, 2006 Report Share Posted January 27, 2006 the "gun" will be under $200 I would almost garintee that... keep in mind it dosen't come with the scope, scope mount, or bypod the M324 comes in all metal (except the stock) and comes with a bypod for $100 or less... I realy doint see the SVD being 2X the price of the M324... I would however expect the "optional" gear (scope/Mount/bypod) to come in just short of $100 as they are all RS items and just the scope and rings usaly add $50 to the M324 when sold as a Package as for perforamce.. its a UTG, best we can hope for is that it shoots as well as the m324 and there is a way to acess the inturnals the gun IS A LONG way off, I had a chat with them this moring... the beta spits is 1.5-2 mounths away and will cost about the same as the larger AK...but they were unable to to give me a price and had no info on a projected release date for the SVD. <{POST_SNAPBACK}> It'll be nearer $400 than $200. mark my words. the SVD has more parts than the M234, and its not UTG's gun. its KA/JM/Head195/Atoz's gun. the bipod *might* be 'real steel', but it sure as hell isnt 'real dragunov'. they mount in a completely different way. the scope that they come out with will not be 'real steel'. Also, the 'scope mount' is integrated into the scope. thats the way russian stuff works. as for performance....its a KA/KM/Head/Atoz. it'll be sweet out of the box, needing no major upgrades at all. Link to post Share on other sites
clmwrx Posted January 27, 2006 Report Share Posted January 27, 2006 But spring??? ehhh no thanks. If only it had a v3 mechbox in it if only... BTW that is jsut a generic utg bipod. I think they run around 30 USD Link to post Share on other sites
shortyusa-chris Posted January 27, 2006 Report Share Posted January 27, 2006 I have the Ak Beta spring gun and the USP AEP on site now and we are reviewing them and making our suggestions to UTG. Ak Beta feels like an AEG it's so solid inside. The AEP is shooting very good. I would expect that by the time it reaches final product it will be competing with a TM 18c AEP. Link to post Share on other sites
Raygis LasVegas Posted January 27, 2006 Report Share Posted January 27, 2006 Can the UTG M870 magazine fit the Maruzen CA870? Link to post Share on other sites
Crandall Posted January 27, 2006 Report Share Posted January 27, 2006 Unfourtantly, not Link to post Share on other sites
gunfighters Posted January 27, 2006 Report Share Posted January 27, 2006 the bipod *might* be 'real steel', but it sure as hell isnt 'real dragunov'. they mount in a completely different way. the scope that they come out with will not be 'real steel'. Also, the 'scope mount' is integrated into the scope. thats the way russian stuff works." Ok man dont mind a darn think here.. I am sitting with the catolag in forunt of me... it reads in the fine print or the right hand of the page.. OPTIONAL- this scope mount http://www.leapers.com/pages/mounting%20sy...t-mnt-973-c.htm this scope http://www.leapers.com/pages/optics/accush...e-scp-t28-c.htm and this bypod ok lets look @ the king arms now look @ the UTG ok now look @ the area above the secctor lever... see how its cut out in the UTG to alow a longer stroke on the cocking handel now look @ the KA there is no such inleting on the KA. now I have not held eather gun, I have to base this on picts, maby the "new" KAs have this inlet and all I fould was old picts... EDIT OR as I look again...dose the slector lever come up and just cover the gap in the KA picts???? some one holding a KA in there hot hands can tell us that.. but considering UTG has pict of TM shot shells ont he box of there shotguns...It would't suprise me if it IS a KA inthe pict and they are saying "we are making this next" frankly if they can make a TM "clone" @ less the 1/2 the price (and load it fully with assorys) they can make a "striped" KA closn @ 1/2 the price.. who know... I might be wrong...you might be wrong.. we probly won't know for mounths.. Link to post Share on other sites
FPBBrandon Posted January 27, 2006 Report Share Posted January 27, 2006 The KA is on safe in those pics though... Link to post Share on other sites
Tinkerton Posted January 27, 2006 Report Share Posted January 27, 2006 Ok man dont mind a darn think here.. I am sitting with the catolag in forunt of me... it reads in the fine print or the right hand of the page.. OPTIONAL- this scope mount http://www.leapers.com/pages/mounting%20sy...t-mnt-973-c.htm this scope http://www.leapers.com/pages/optics/accush...e-scp-t28-c.htm and this bypod ok lets look @ the king arms now look @ the UTG ok now look @ the area above the secctor lever... see how its cut out in the UTG to alow a longer stroke on the cocking handel now look @ the KA there is no such inleting on the KA. now I have not held eather gun, I have to base this on picts, maby the "new" KAs have this inlet and all I fould was old picts... EDIT OR as I look again...dose the slector lever come up and just cover the gap in the KA picts???? some one holding a KA in there hot hands can tell us that.. but considering UTG has pict of TM shot shells ont he box of there shotguns...It would't suprise me if it IS a KA inthe pict and they are saying "we are making this next" frankly if they can make a TM "clone" @ less the 1/2 the price (and load it fully with assorys) they can make a "striped" KA closn @ 1/2 the price.. who know... I might be wrong...you might be wrong.. we probly won't know for mounths.. <{POST_SNAPBACK}> right, ok. That scope mount is ...wrong. no genuine russian scope mount is like that. the russian scope mounts that DO have rails for normal scopes are much nicer looking, without the side rail. scope mounts too high too... for example: http://www.kalinkaoptics.com/cgi-bin/kowst...logno=AMNPZSVDD as for the scope...it'd be like putting a flaming reflex on a Barret M82. or a 3-9x50 on a shotgun. its just not right. as for the selector lever, i've GOT a KA svd, the 'cut away' is there. its just covered when in the 'safe' postion. stops it being cocked. stops the trigger from releasing the spring. also, the recticule on the scope is wrong... the attachment method of the scope mount is wrong too. Link to post Share on other sites
5thElement Posted January 27, 2006 Report Share Posted January 27, 2006 Sweet, im just praying the dragunov is out before the VCR bill, probably unlikely Whats with those extra long mags in the shotguns? never seen those before. Love my UTG shotgun though great gun for the price. Link to post Share on other sites
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