Sledge Posted March 27, 2005 Report Share Posted March 27, 2005 Don't forget HFC Glocks. Also a Marui copy, and a damn fine gun in my experience. Without a doubt, the most reliable GBB I've encountered. Link to post Share on other sites
Hissing_Sid Posted March 27, 2005 Report Share Posted March 27, 2005 Guess that's the answer then - even if they DO break down, people can't bear to part with them <{POST_SNAPBACK}> Hmmm... I think it's more likely that when they break they simply become "project" guns and are reincarnated with Infinity slides and skeletonized triggers and lightened hammers and Hogue grips and extended magwells and....ZZZzzzzzz Link to post Share on other sites
cruxed Posted March 27, 2005 Report Share Posted March 27, 2005 As DarkLite mentioned, Ive found the KJ Glocks to be far superior to KSC/KWA glocks Link to post Share on other sites
x239 Posted March 27, 2005 Report Share Posted March 27, 2005 Just to set the record straight on the Sauer 90 The UHC version is indeed terrible. The KWC version (which i have) is damn good value for money, never breaks, and is powerful and accurate. And about the western arms pistols, I have a berreta 92FS premium limited editon, i have used it for 2 years now and it is a phenominal pistol, i can get 1.5inch groupings at about 14 meters with the hop set correctly on 134a. The magazine easily holds enough gas to get at least 3 mags of BB's out of it. And about the MP5 series, I have a MP5K PDW, which in my opinion is the best price to performance ratio gun you will ever find. The power and accuracy are unbelievable, it can outmatch some rifles almost twice the size. The gun itself is solid as a rock. Link to post Share on other sites
snowman Posted March 27, 2005 Report Share Posted March 27, 2005 Fair point - Couldn't be bothered to type KSC/KWA Glocks every time All my comments apply to the KSC/KWA models as I've no experience of Marui or their clones. Cheers. Link to post Share on other sites
DarkLite Posted March 27, 2005 Report Share Posted March 27, 2005 Try one for a review. The KJW FMV G23 is cheap, powerful and accurate. Link to post Share on other sites
phishphansj3151 Posted March 27, 2005 Report Share Posted March 27, 2005 Alot of KWC guns are terrible. The only good ones I've seen is the spring desert eagle, and the co2 desert eagle. I thought that UHC/HFC mp5 was probobly the best springer out there? Hmm Oh I held a panther arms ar-15 yesterday at my last game and I was surprised, It was pretty heavy and had an fps of 290! Buut there is almost no metal on the gun except the gearbox. Link to post Share on other sites
Kosac Posted March 27, 2005 Report Share Posted March 27, 2005 Whoa calm down guys this is getting out of hnad. Alot of guns you have named arent that bad. Ok the TM M16 and MP%5series arent a scratch n thier CA or ICS counterparts, but on a budget they are very good begineers guns. I admit i would rather have a CA over a TM but they are not that bad, they wont fall apart the first time you pick them up or anything. Link to post Share on other sites
DarkLite Posted March 27, 2005 Report Share Posted March 27, 2005 Erm, they sometimes do. talk the R22Master. Watever you do, NEVER GET A STOCK G3SG1!!! ever. Buy a metal body as SOON AS YOU GET IT. I've seen people brake Sg1s in HALF just running and knocking a tree. Link to post Share on other sites
Kosac Posted March 27, 2005 Report Share Posted March 27, 2005 Well i am sure if i ran into a treee with my Mp5 i could do some damge but i tend not to do that. Link to post Share on other sites
Hissing_Sid Posted March 27, 2005 Report Share Posted March 27, 2005 Erm, they sometimes do. talk the R22Master. Watever you do, NEVER GET A STOCK G3SG1!!! ever. Buy a metal body as SOON AS YOU GET IT. I've seen people brake Sg1s in HALF just running and knocking a tree. <{POST_SNAPBACK}> Yes. Teh G3SAS is teh ONLY gunzorz w0rth bying, right? I had my SG1 stock for almost a year and it was fine. Sure, it creaked a bit but I wouldn't put it up as a candidate for "what not to buy" because of that. If you want a real long-arm and you don't like Armalites then it's pretty much your only other option and it's fine if you ask me. Link to post Share on other sites
RobbyC Posted March 27, 2005 Report Share Posted March 27, 2005 TM Revolvers - the bits just break - they are plastic where they should be metal - great when they work, however...... ermmm TM PSG 1 just because it is incredibly complex to do anything to it internally and parts cost a bomb.... TM M4 - bodies may aswell be made out of putty..... EDIT: lack of punctuation in a place was misleading.... Link to post Share on other sites
DarkLite Posted March 28, 2005 Report Share Posted March 28, 2005 Yes. Teh G3SAS is teh ONLY gunzorz w0rth bying, right? I had my SG1 stock for almost a year and it was fine. Sure, it creaked a bit but I wouldn't put it up as a candidate for "what not to buy" because of that. If you want a real long-arm and you don't like Armalites then it's pretty much your only other option and it's fine if you ask me. <{POST_SNAPBACK}> No, the G3SAS isn't the only gun worth buying , I just like it. However, the SG1 has MAJOR flex probs. Get a metal body for it asap. Link to post Share on other sites
Carrion Posted May 26, 2005 Report Share Posted May 26, 2005 personaly i would say that the maruzen gas shotguns have alot to be desired unless you want to upgrade them alot. Link to post Share on other sites
Snakehead178 Posted June 29, 2005 Report Share Posted June 29, 2005 Thanks for the heads-up about the G3 SG/1 guys. Good thing I read this BEFORE going to the next bi-weekly team practice. -Clifton C. Link to post Share on other sites
Marshmallow Monster Posted June 29, 2005 Report Share Posted June 29, 2005 if your playing field is woodland, or all outdoor (no CQB) then avoid a Sig 552. That was the first gun I used in my first skirmish, and it was pretty sad in woodland. Link to post Share on other sites
The Waco Kid Posted June 29, 2005 Report Share Posted June 29, 2005 Ohnoes! Snowman thinks that the only glocks are KSC/KWA ones! Honestly, snowman, I would have expected better of you. Ksc glocks vent very easily in cold, yes. KJW/Marui glocks do not. In fact, my KJW FMV G23 gives a solid 300fps in 12 degrees and one fill is enough for just under two mags. <{POST_SNAPBACK}> You've convinced me of my next purchase, definitely a KJW Glock. I've been collecting the "set" of all the other models ie. KSC/KWA G17,34,26,19,18C & the various conversions based on them. Only had major problems with the 18C. TM 18C maeg is a real beauty. Also I kind like the TM MPK as a CQB gun, usually get the drop on most other players when bringing it onto target, even against a P90. I just find it naturally "pointable", even offhanded. I was also under the impression that TM MP5's were a very reliable "workhorse" AEG, judging by the number of sites still keeping them up & running for years. Personally I've had CA & ICS models so I can't say for sure (excepting the MPK). definitely avoid early CA AEG's, but the M15 range are superb value for money. Regards, TWK Link to post Share on other sites
Double Airsoft Posted July 6, 2005 Report Share Posted July 6, 2005 What about Double Eagle those are pretty bad too. The only difference between them and Cyma is that the Double Eagle has hop up. Link to post Share on other sites
Onechance Posted July 6, 2005 Report Share Posted July 6, 2005 What about Double Eagle those are pretty bad too. The only difference between them and Cyma is that the Double Eagle has hop up. <{POST_SNAPBACK}> Yes very helpful, thank you Should have let the thread die in peace Link to post Share on other sites
cadetrichards Posted July 6, 2005 Report Share Posted July 6, 2005 how about the super 90 'sniper rifle' ? cant remember what mae it is though, HFC of UHC i think. <{POST_SNAPBACK}> jessetjames Link to post Share on other sites
Onechance Posted July 6, 2005 Report Share Posted July 6, 2005 jessetjames <{POST_SNAPBACK}> WTF are you on about son? Link to post Share on other sites
DarkLite Posted July 6, 2005 Report Share Posted July 6, 2005 You've convinced me of my next purchase, definitely a KJW Glock. I've been collecting the "set" of all the other models ie. KSC/KWA G17,34,26,19,18C & the various conversions based on them. Only had major problems with the 18C. TM 18C maeg is a real beauty. Also I kind like the TM MPK as a CQB gun, usually get the drop on most other players when bringing it onto target, even against a P90. I just find it naturally "pointable", even offhanded. I was also under the impression that TM MP5's were a very reliable "workhorse" AEG, judging by the number of sites still keeping them up & running for years. Personally I've had CA & ICS models so I can't say for sure (excepting the MPK). definitely avoid early CA AEG's, but the M15 range are superb value for money. Regards, TWK <{POST_SNAPBACK}> Just make sure you get a KJW glock with a metal slide, cheap, cheerful and good. Link to post Share on other sites
Joefahey Posted July 7, 2005 Report Share Posted July 7, 2005 Check one of the stickies, it has a link to a post about what NOT to get. I found it VERY helpful. Link to post Share on other sites
Billy210 Posted July 7, 2005 Report Share Posted July 7, 2005 Um, how is the inability to empty a mags worth of bbs NOT a disadvantage worth considering? That's a pretty damn big drawback, given that , say a Glock mag will cheerfully hold enough gas to empty it of bbs twice over. Do my eyes decieve me? Sledge, dissing a WA gun?? Well, from personal experience, Double Eagle guns are just about the cheapest, most worthless piece of *beep* in the world of airsoft. Believe me, I've used some ###### springers, and the double eagle was REALLY bad. If there was a hell for airsoft guns, the double eagle G36c wouldn't just go there- they'd put it on the reject pile. Link to post Share on other sites
Paintchip Posted July 8, 2005 Report Share Posted July 8, 2005 I don't have experience but i heard that old Mp5s from either CA or ICS "I think its ICS" are ###### internals. can any one comfirm? Link to post Share on other sites
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