Cesare Posted May 7, 2017 Report Share Posted May 7, 2017 Pic 1 Marushin Ruger Blackhawk 8mm SA Marushin Ruger BH Talon 8mm SA Taurus Raging bull 8mm Tanaka 6" S&W m29 6"BBL rs grips (Also have a rare zinc cast barrel that I haven't installed yet) Dan Wesson m715 stainless Have some rs grips / see pic 2 which is also a ongoing project requires some heavy modifications) Pic 2 Tanaka S&W m10 steel finish Charter Arms Bulldog Pug .44S&W S&W m13 357mag FBI Marushin m60 3" chrome Colt python custom blued metal barrel Colt python 6" satin all metal Prime Colt detective all alu gloss black kit w steel custom barrel shroud rs grips Tanaka S&W m40 centennial steel finish Pic 3 Rs Pietta m1860 sorry doesn't really belong here Guarder custom Webley MkVI vintage markings with rs sling also have a RS triggerguard Grips and a bayonet that can be mounted looking for the brass gripped wwi era pistol grip Tanaka Colt SAA Cavalry midnight finish Umarex .22 cal Brocock air gun Tanaka Colt SAA Artillery case coloured Quote Link to post Share on other sites
CatgutViolin Posted May 7, 2017 Report Share Posted May 7, 2017 Very nice collection, I'd never heard of Guarder making a Webley but you've just added another item to my wishlist. Random question for you or anyone- do any companies make gas-in-shell revolvers that use CO2, or are they all either CO2 in the grip or duster/green gas in the shell? Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Cesare Posted May 7, 2017 Report Share Posted May 7, 2017 Very nice collection, I'd never heard of Guarder making a Webley but you've just added another item to my wishlist. Random question for you or anyone- do any companies make gas-in-shell revolvers that use CO2, or are they all either CO2 in the grip or duster/green gas in the shell? I think the Guarder can be tricky to find. They initially stated they would make 50 but I don't think there were so many and I only saw them on CRW. http://www.crw-airsoft.com/webley-mk-vi-service-revolver-full-marking-limited-ver-by-guarder-10317-p.asp Except the Brokock revolver with some adjustments of the vents in the shelll which probably could take the power of co2, I don't think anyone ever made shells that could contain co2. Actually I don't recollect any airsoft revolver that contain gas in the shell whatsoever. Most guns with gas require large style shells better suited for rifles but I guess it should be possible who knows what the future holds? The Tanakas are all Pegasus system with gas in the cylinder and the rest all use gas or co2 in the handle asfaik. Originally my idea was to convert the brocock revolver into airsoft by drilling the bore and filing the shells from 5.5mm to 6mm. But then it also felt awful to destroy a perfect rifled barrel into a smoothbore possibly failing barrel. Maybe one could use the brocock shells for another gun but since the system is so realistic it would probably just function in a RS .38/.357 with awful accuracy which obviously is a bad idea. If you had an as revolver with .38 removable shells as the Dan Wesson 715 and modified the hammer using an RS one it just might work, but that's a difficult project. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
renegadecow Posted May 8, 2017 Report Share Posted May 8, 2017 There's Tanaka's long recalled Cassiopoeia line for an example of gas-in-shell. I imagine most manufacturers are avoiding it given its run-in with the law as we saw again with APS. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Cesare Posted May 8, 2017 Report Share Posted May 8, 2017 There's Tanaka's long recalled Cassiopoeia line for an example of gas-in-shell. I imagine most manufacturers are avoiding it given its run-in with the law as we saw again with APS. Yes of course, how could I forget. I have given up ever finding one but you are right the Cassiopeia line had green gas shells. I think Tanaka works experienced a similar pre-APS experience with the CEO arrested and 800 guns seized and the whole firm in a short lockdown to seize all production. Probably a lot of criminals thought it would be wise to fire the .500S&W magnum round through a pot metal, abs plastic or at best improved creation alu kit. Or... ? Quote Link to post Share on other sites
renegadecow Posted May 8, 2017 Report Share Posted May 8, 2017 Not so much police action for Tanaka. No charges filed but they did their own recall all the same and to be extra safe throttled all their Pegasus revolvers well below .98J even on green gas. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
vietnammarine Posted May 8, 2017 Report Share Posted May 8, 2017 Cesare, is there anything you don't own? Nice collection. Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk Quote Link to post Share on other sites
CatgutViolin Posted May 8, 2017 Report Share Posted May 8, 2017 (edited) Thanks for the comprehensive reply, Cesare. I had this idea bouncing around in my head to take a black powder Colt Walker kit and rebuild it for airsoft use, and CO2 shells a la the APS shotguns would have made it a fairly straightforward job. Guess I'll have to keep looking. Edited May 8, 2017 by CatgutViolin Quote Link to post Share on other sites
renegadecow Posted May 9, 2017 Report Share Posted May 9, 2017 Colt Walker I know black powder firearms aren't regulated in the US, but what's the legality of using percussion caps to propel a chamber full of bbs? Not nearly as powerful as a primer and a whole lot safer than repurposing a cartridge gun. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
CatgutViolin Posted May 9, 2017 Report Share Posted May 9, 2017 I know black powder firearms aren't regulated in the US, but what's the legality of using percussion caps to propel a chamber full of bbs? Not nearly as powerful as a primer and a whole lot safer than repurposing a cartridge gun. That's a clever idea and it would be legal, but such a design would still be able to function as an actual firearm, something that I imagine most field owners would heavily frown upon. I'm thinking the most viable solution might be to gut the gas system from my Wingun SAA and transplant it, but then that also requires transplanting the grip frame to accommodate the CO2 cartridge. I think it's doable, but not nearly as straightforward. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
renegadecow Posted May 9, 2017 Report Share Posted May 9, 2017 The problem with that then is you'll need a bored through cylinder. How about a Denix? I'm sure their pot metal is strong enough to contain the pressure of a percussion cap but at the same time won't be able to hold a full charge. I've been chasing the idea for some time now but have no possible supply for anything by Denix. Even small handgun primers are way too powerful and red caps deliver all of 200fps. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Cesare Posted May 9, 2017 Report Share Posted May 9, 2017 The cap Idea has been done with Brocock shells just a minor modification really. Mostly they used .219 shotgun primers which are way too powerful. Besides the legal issue of building a firearms that is. The green caps i use sounds much louder than a .22 and I think this this is a dead end for using it airsoft. You also have to consider how to make a percussion system into a direct fire system like rim fire or preferably central fire. A Walker would be awesome since they are such monsters but maybe if you could get hold of say a Colt 1861 with a Richards-Mason CF cartridge conversion and that is legal without special permits. There were some other guns period converted too but I think these are the easiest to find. Then you could use Brocock shells with just small alterations. That is throating the shell from 5.5mm to 6mm. So all you need is TACs aka BACs Tandem or Brocock air cartridges a open 9mm cylinder and free bore preferably with possibility to insert a AS precision barrel. Are the Denix guns all with non-plugged barrels and free cylinders?? Always wanted to build a LeMat for Airsoft *grin* Quote Link to post Share on other sites
CatgutViolin Posted May 9, 2017 Report Share Posted May 9, 2017 I wouldn't trust a Denix, not just from a safety perspective but functionally, as their build quality makes old CYMA pot metal look like CNCed steel by comparison. I'm not sure if they're fully-functioning in the first place (I suspect not), but even if they are, I would expect the mechanism to eventually fall apart as it unfortunately did on my converted Denix side-by-side. Cylinder pawls and pot metal don't mix well. For the real Walker and Dragoon, there is a .45 LC cartridge conversion on the US market. I imagine it would work perfectly with the Brocock cartridge, but probably wouldn't have enough space to do the specific idea I had in mind (multiple BBs per chamber, because it's a 4.5lb handgun and because I have an unhealthy obsession with shotguns). Alternatively, a 3D printed cylinder could work. I did find files for a Colt Walker online. Buy a real Walker, print a cylinder, bore out the cylinder, and either transplant CO2 guts or figure out a Brocock or percussion cap system? Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Cesare Posted May 9, 2017 Report Share Posted May 9, 2017 That sounds like a plan i really hope you make something, maybe make a post on it later? You might check out the angel apm50 rounds if they might fit a .45? Quote Link to post Share on other sites
CatgutViolin Posted May 9, 2017 Report Share Posted May 9, 2017 Had a look at the APM50s online, but I can't find their actual dimensions, so I suspect they're probably too long. I'd really like to build a Walker or Dragoon and intend to make a build log, I just need to figure out the best method first. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Cesare Posted May 9, 2017 Report Share Posted May 9, 2017 I know Davide Pedersoli has made a Shell system for indoor shooting with primers in .45Colt shooting indoor balls in .44 cal. But that is a primer built system. Maybe we should move this discussion to other part of the forum? Going a bit off topic? Quote Link to post Share on other sites
CatgutViolin Posted May 9, 2017 Report Share Posted May 9, 2017 Yes, I apologize for derailing the thread. I will start a new topic under Project Suggestions. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
blobface Posted May 9, 2017 Report Share Posted May 9, 2017 Tanaka M360 PD Cerakote Scandium Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Got Wood? Posted May 9, 2017 Report Share Posted May 9, 2017 Good lord that's nice Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Cesare Posted July 3, 2017 Report Share Posted July 3, 2017 The first one in the world and it is all mine! Robinhood tactical proudly presents the first all steel kit for an airsoft revolver...: Limited ed of 50 sets Colt detective 3rd gen 2" barrel Blued steel with RS pachmayr grips Tanaka system With aks DS detective special 38spl speedloader With old body so one might get an Idea of the beautiful bluing of the kit. If there is an interest I could do a more indepth review Read more on Combat monthly https://m.facebook.com/story.php?story_fbid=580769118780175&id=177718395751918&__tn__=%2As On Robinhood tacticals homepage Or see more images here http://www.papagoarms.com.tw/Collection/Detail/3356 They are to be released in December I think and sold through CRW airsoft Quote Link to post Share on other sites
blobface Posted July 3, 2017 Report Share Posted July 3, 2017 £1220... I want to say that's an insane price but actually, considering how complex the parts are, it's actually kinda okay... how did you manage to get hold of one so quick! Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Cesare Posted July 3, 2017 Report Share Posted July 3, 2017 Well of course you are right But some people would say that about spending money on "toy-guns" as an adult in general. This is much more a collectors item than anything else. Just wanted a steel airsoft revolver for a really long time and now when it appeared I had to get first in line. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
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renegadecow Posted September 1, 2017 Report Share Posted September 1, 2017 (edited) On the edge with this one. Desperately trying to think of a non invasive way to attach a rail. Or do I ditch the mount altogether and have it screwed directly to the barrel? Edited September 1, 2017 by renegadecow Quote Link to post Share on other sites
druid799 Posted September 7, 2017 Report Share Posted September 7, 2017 On the edge with this one. Desperately trying to think of a non invasive way to attach a rail. Or do I ditch the mount altogether and have it screwed directly to the barrel? Have to say mate that pistol looks mad as a monkeys tea party ! But I do like it in some twisted way ! Quote Link to post Share on other sites
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