bankz5152 Posted July 12, 2012 Report Share Posted July 12, 2012 Just watched the video on the main Arnies news page. Confirmed as 50 rounds per magazine as I thought! Which is damn fantastic as those mags are massive, so massive gas capacity so there should be little cooldown. Mags looked about 25% larger than standard mags so im excited. Link to post Share on other sites
Habakure Posted July 12, 2012 Report Share Posted July 12, 2012 Nothing new to learn from that video, just more teasing. Pyramid airsoft, had got kwa to confirm the 50 round mags in their last video. This is like waiting for a parcel, that may come tomorrow or never. Link to post Share on other sites
bankz5152 Posted July 13, 2012 Report Share Posted July 13, 2012 Does anyone know if it will come with the standard KWA ball bearing hop design or the new leaf spring system? Link to post Share on other sites
bankz5152 Posted July 26, 2012 Report Share Posted July 26, 2012 Any more news on the European/Hong Kong release date? Link to post Share on other sites
Habakure Posted August 30, 2012 Report Share Posted August 30, 2012 Seeing as this kwa release is being a usa only release, I wonder if, it will only be for a couple of months (maybe so they can keep up with demand)? Link to post Share on other sites
uscmCorps Posted August 30, 2012 Report Share Posted August 30, 2012 When was it announced as a US only release? Sounds unlikely since the amount of coin that went into the R&D and production of the gun. Link to post Share on other sites
hitmanNo2 Posted August 30, 2012 Report Share Posted August 30, 2012 Indeed. I've not actually seen the source of this rumor. Link to post Share on other sites
Habakure Posted August 30, 2012 Report Share Posted August 30, 2012 Let me find it on here, it was mentioned in another thread. Link to post Share on other sites
allizard Posted August 30, 2012 Report Share Posted August 30, 2012 Bear in mind this is a joined project with Kriss Arms, and Kriss is located in Switzerland. Why would it be US only release? Link to post Share on other sites
hitmanNo2 Posted August 30, 2012 Report Share Posted August 30, 2012 First I heard was from Mike_West in the my Eye, Sweet Jesus thread but no source. Link to post Share on other sites
Habakure Posted August 30, 2012 Report Share Posted August 30, 2012 Binjo, that was it. My bad then, I took it as read, as other people commented on that reply and said that it would probably be released down the line. Hence my post. Link to post Share on other sites
vorpalbunnie Posted August 31, 2012 Report Share Posted August 31, 2012 More importantly (and mind-boggling), how will KWA release this in Japan? There is a ton of hype around the Kriss, but this is a gun that KSC has not produced/is not producing. @Allizard Is KSC allowing KWA to release the Kriss under KSC's name? Link to post Share on other sites
allizard Posted August 31, 2012 Report Share Posted August 31, 2012 It's the other way around. Kriss Vector airsoft version is STRICTLY a KWA + KRISS joined project. Link to post Share on other sites
uscmCorps Posted August 31, 2012 Report Share Posted August 31, 2012 In other words : It's up to KWA to decide if they will allow KSC to release the Kriss under KSC's name ... or if KWA will just self distribute in Asia. Link to post Share on other sites
Aitch Posted August 31, 2012 Report Share Posted August 31, 2012 Not to worry, it'll be cloned soon after release Link to post Share on other sites
BerserkDS Posted August 31, 2012 Report Share Posted August 31, 2012 I have yet to see a cloned KWA gun. Link to post Share on other sites
hitmanNo2 Posted August 31, 2012 Report Share Posted August 31, 2012 G18cs and FPG off the top of my head. That weird hybrid S&W M945 too. But true, they don't tend to get cloned, Link to post Share on other sites
Mike_West Posted August 31, 2012 Report Share Posted August 31, 2012 Wait, aren't WE's 18 and 23 cloned from TM's design? ARMY's G18 was a TM knockoff too, IIRC. And FPG wasn't cloned, AFAIK. Link to post Share on other sites
FireKnife Posted August 31, 2012 Report Share Posted August 31, 2012 The metal slided USP that went wrong straight away? About the only one i could remember. Though as for cloning KSC guns? What about KWA, now that they claim to be a seperate comapny, they didn't come up with those designs themselves. But it does say something about them compared to TM when it is the TM pistols that always get cloned nowadays 'FireKnife' Link to post Share on other sites
uscmCorps Posted August 31, 2012 Report Share Posted August 31, 2012 Are you implying that KSC designed the KRISS? Link to post Share on other sites
Aitch Posted August 31, 2012 Report Share Posted August 31, 2012 I always thought they were the same company? Link to post Share on other sites
FireKnife Posted August 31, 2012 Report Share Posted August 31, 2012 Are you implying that KSC designed the KRISS? Nope, i meant the range they started out with when they tried a go at being a seperate company, just KSC cloned guns with metal slides and higher FPS output. I always thought they were the same company? From what i recall they were, until a few years ago then they sort of split in to two seperate ones, KSC and KWA. This is why KWA seems to be releasing guns that KSC are not, yet they still have a lot of guns that are KSC but with stuff that is allowed outside Japan like metal bodies and higher FPS outputs. Look at the TT-33, Kriss and Makarov, which KSC have nothing to do with. 'FireKnife' Link to post Share on other sites
uscmCorps Posted August 31, 2012 Report Share Posted August 31, 2012 They haven't been for a long time. Actually, I don't think they've ever been "the same company". From what I understand, KWA was the primary OEM manufacturer for most (all?) KSC's product line. Two separate companies. A few years back, KSC stopped designing the guns for the most part and KWA took over the majority of the design process. KWA has a lot of very talented product designers over there. The KRISS is 100% KWA's design with KRISS Arms feedback. KSC was not involved in the KRISS GBB design in any way. Having shot the real gun in both 45 ACP, 9mm, suppressed and non-suppressed, semi, burst and full auto, and then also tested the replica, I will tell you KWA did a fantastic job of replicating the mechanics and feel of the gun. Link to post Share on other sites
FireKnife Posted August 31, 2012 Report Share Posted August 31, 2012 From what i gather it was: KSC and KWA were both the same company and the guns were KSC for Japan with Japanese QC, plastic slides and low FPS outputs and KWA made the same but under export QC and with metal slides. This lead to a lot of people not knowing which one they had and KSC guns appearing in KWA boxes and vice versa (this is pre System 7 / NS2 days). Later on they both became seperate companies in their own right and one sells its designs in Japan with potential for export while the other sells its designs around the rest of the world via wholesalers. As for the Kriss this is an example of KWA coming up with fresh designs, unlike the MP9 and MP7 which clearly are KSC guns with uprated FPS and different markings. Still it is good to see a Kriss in airsoft, nice original design instead of another typical gun. 'FireKnife' Link to post Share on other sites
uscmCorps Posted August 31, 2012 Report Share Posted August 31, 2012 Just relaying what I heard direct from the manufacturer. Link to post Share on other sites
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