DarkLite Posted January 23, 2013 Report Share Posted January 23, 2013 It's still a misstep on APS's part though - there is no NEED for that cut-out to be so restrictive. If anything, they should have seen what happened to the G&G F2000's popularity once it was revealed that midcaps were a no go*. *If in case you were wondering, it went from everyone and their dog going "OH F**K IMMA NEED ONE" to "DO NOT F**KING WANT" Link to post Share on other sites
uscmCorps Posted January 23, 2013 Report Share Posted January 23, 2013 No midcaps? Fail. Link to post Share on other sites
Jibbity Posted January 24, 2013 Report Share Posted January 24, 2013 It's still a misstep on APS's part though - there is no NEED for that cut-out to be so restrictive. If anything, they should have seen what happened to the G&G F2000's popularity once it was revealed that midcaps were a no go*. *If in case you were wondering, it went from everyone and their dog going "OH F**K IMMA NEED ONE" to "DO NOT F**KING WANT" This So an enterprising person with a dremel might find a quick solution for that extra material? Can you post a photo of the magwell interior? Link to post Share on other sites
Baddbaz Posted January 24, 2013 Report Share Posted January 24, 2013 If its the same as an f2k you can't cut out the gearbox bump and screw without damaging the gearbox , will have to be a magazine mod or find mids with a recess in the top . Ie the real sword ones ..... Would be usefull to have a pic of the magwell to see i the problem ... Link to post Share on other sites
DarkLite Posted January 24, 2013 Report Share Posted January 24, 2013 It should be sortable with a dremel and some elbow grease. As far as I can tell the gearbox does not impinge upon the magazines. Link to post Share on other sites
Inari Posted January 24, 2013 Report Share Posted January 24, 2013 ...just modify the magazines? For the F2000 it takes less than 30 seconds. In fact, I have regularly modified magazines for people, doing as many as 15 in 3 minutes. It's the least labour intensive modification I've ever had to do. Much less-so than putting MAG brand mids into an ICS SIG 552 Link to post Share on other sites
Baddbaz Posted January 24, 2013 Report Share Posted January 24, 2013 Or use Lonex mags ,, simples Link to post Share on other sites
Probotector Posted January 24, 2013 Report Share Posted January 24, 2013 ...just modify the magazines? For the F2000 it takes less than 30 seconds. In fact, I have regularly modified magazines for people, doing as many as 15 in 3 minutes. It's the least labour intensive modification I've ever had to do. Much less-so than putting MAG brand mids into an ICS SIG 552 Exactly. A saw is all you need. Link to post Share on other sites
cazboab Posted January 24, 2013 Report Share Posted January 24, 2013 ...just modify the magazines? You can modify the mag well once, in a fashion that I'm lead to believe is unlikely to cause serious problems or every magazine you ever buy in a manner that risks buggering the magazine. Link to post Share on other sites
DarkLite Posted January 24, 2013 Report Share Posted January 24, 2013 Or you could not have a bumtarded design team and save everyone a lot of hassle? Link to post Share on other sites
Baddbaz Posted January 25, 2013 Report Share Posted January 25, 2013 Could have been a lot worse though , could have got in the ares design team and made it totally useless Link to post Share on other sites
farrasdevell Posted January 25, 2013 Report Share Posted January 25, 2013 http://www.youtube.com/watch?NR=1&v=gEIDAk2bSR4&feature=endscreen Watch at 5:23 Link to post Share on other sites
crackisbad Posted January 25, 2013 Report Share Posted January 25, 2013 ^ my mind was just blown The more I see review for this the more I like it. Being APS I would completely replace the internals but I end up doing that with most my guns anyway so no big deal Major bummer about the additional work needed for midcaps, but at least it is possible EDIT: just got to the end of one of the review videos and the outer barrel almost looks like it could be a standard M4 type outer with their barrel nut, anyone have any info on that? Link to post Share on other sites
Isamu Posted January 25, 2013 Report Share Posted January 25, 2013 Dont know why, but i like the "classic" verion more than the compact Link to post Share on other sites
T3CH Posted January 28, 2013 Report Share Posted January 28, 2013 ^^^ Hmmm so the UPR (the DMR one) is a conversion kit? So that'd be a longer outer barrel and possibly a longer inner as well. https://www.facebook.com/video/embed?video_id=10201209851387451 <--- sorry about the facebook vid but it's not anywhere on youtube. ^^^ that one highlights a minor issue with the fire selector being tricky to put back onto safe a single hand from full auto. But then I have the same problem with my MC51 with big hands so that doesn't bother me. Link to post Share on other sites
Probotector Posted January 28, 2013 Report Share Posted January 28, 2013 Dunno, this AEG looks really odd. It's like they tried to replicate the MSBS Radon Bullup rifle while being blindfolded. At least it uses STANAGS so it has one thing going for it. Link to post Share on other sites
NeoVeNoM Posted January 28, 2013 Report Share Posted January 28, 2013 Just got mine right here. And contrary to popular believe, it's very solid. No flexing of the body. So it won't fall apart after holding it for 3 seconds. It's made out of concrete compared to the S&T ABS Tavor. Oh yes, and PTS 120rnd Pmags long & small fit. the Emags fit just as well. Unfortunately they do not feed, you have to push them. there is some kind of button inside right behind the feeding tube. But I thing a bit of adhesive tape in the magwell will do the trick. Link to post Share on other sites
mimesis Posted January 28, 2013 Report Share Posted January 28, 2013 RADOM MSBS APS UAR Link to post Share on other sites
swatti Posted January 28, 2013 Report Share Posted January 28, 2013 From those pics the UAR actually looks more real EDIT: Does anyone know of a good "angled foregrip" like the KA one. Trying to find one to match the looks... Link to post Share on other sites
Baddbaz Posted January 28, 2013 Report Share Posted January 28, 2013 Think an mp7 type folding foregrip would suit this gun very well ,, Link to post Share on other sites
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Baddbaz Posted January 28, 2013 Report Share Posted January 28, 2013 And contrary to popular believe, it's very solid. No flexing of the body. So it won't fall apart after holding it for 3 seconds. It's made out of concrete compared to the S&T ABS Tavor. Anything seems like concrete compared to an S&t tavor , even a milk carton !!! Link to post Share on other sites
T3CH Posted January 29, 2013 Report Share Posted January 29, 2013 Wow yeah a railed bullpup looks like another railed bullpup what a shocker. IT IS NOT A RADOM KNOCKOFF. Different grip angle (the one on the RADOM looks TERRIBLE, and being that vertical probably feels bad as well), totally different magwell, different mag release, much higher top rail, RADOM doesn't appear to be TOTALLY ambi. Also where the hell is the RADOMs fire selector? Tell me it's not that tiny bump above the pistol grip? There is a vague similarity in basic shape, but seriously how different could a bullpup be from another bullpup? I see far more FAMAS in the design than RADOM. Link to post Share on other sites
uscmCorps Posted January 29, 2013 Report Share Posted January 29, 2013 Different grip angle (the one on the RADOM looks TERRIBLE, and being that vertical probably feels bad as well) Based off ergonomics, grip angle has more to do with length of pull. As the length of pull on a long gun shortens, (typically) means increased wrist comfort as the pistol grip becomes a more vertical angle. This is in large part the ideology behind grips like the MOE-K grip and BCM Gunfighter grip. Some shooters were wanting a more compact setup and extensive testing showed that a mostly collapsed stock felt better with a more vertical grip since the wrist had to bend less and the grip could be grasped in a more natural way. The UAR does seem to appear to be a gun who's LOP appears to have an appropriate grip angle. Whether or not this applies to the Radom has yet to be seen. Link to post Share on other sites
T3CH Posted January 29, 2013 Report Share Posted January 29, 2013 They actually do mention that the UAR has quite a long length of pull. the RADOMs must be ridiculously short then? Link to post Share on other sites
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