xRAZERx Posted July 25, 2005 Report Share Posted July 25, 2005 Very good Monk, as far as I know for close protection the SAS use P228s, MP5kA4s, the usual stuff <{POST_SNAPBACK}> And rumour has it they also keep a few FN FiveSeven's in the motors with them... Link to post Share on other sites
rifleman Posted July 27, 2005 Report Share Posted July 27, 2005 Speaking of MOE, i was under the impression they used the vicious looking 2 pronged hooligan bar above sledge hammers, mainly becuase you can pry with them too. and although i'm not hard nut sas (obviously ), i wouldn't fancy legging it round with a sledge hammer strapped to my back lol Cheers Mig <{POST_SNAPBACK}> The current issue MOE kit was specially developed by Dynamic Entry and comprises the following items: Boltmaster Bolt Cutters UK Halligan Tool CQB Entry Ram I have attached a picture of the complete kit, although it is probably impossible to get hold of unless you are police or military. Cheers Rifleman Link to post Share on other sites
xRAZERx Posted July 27, 2005 Report Share Posted July 27, 2005 I have one of those in the back of my car sometimes :cool: Link to post Share on other sites
Diemaco Posted August 13, 2005 Author Report Share Posted August 13, 2005 Speaking of MOE, i was under the impression they used the vicious looking 2 pronged hooligan bar above sledge hammers, mainly becuase you can pry with them too. and although i'm not hard nut sas (obviously ), i wouldn't fancy legging it round with a sledge hammer strapped to my back lol Cheers Mig <{POST_SNAPBACK}> Thundersledge or likewise Link to post Share on other sites
cpaxton Posted August 14, 2005 Report Share Posted August 14, 2005 They also use M16 varients. Link to post Share on other sites
FarEast Posted August 14, 2005 Report Share Posted August 14, 2005 this thread needs another picture! Me in my CRW loadout. yers the mask is askew, due to my daughter attacking me with a pillow just before the shot was taken. Link to post Share on other sites
aXXXel Posted August 14, 2005 Report Share Posted August 14, 2005 Where can I get those masks? Really, where? The SAS do use S-10 masks like anybody else when they're not dressed in this... stormtrooper-ish dress, right? Link to post Share on other sites
Skarclaw Posted August 14, 2005 Report Share Posted August 14, 2005 ebay.co.uk I guess they would take them with them if they feared a gas attack. Link to post Share on other sites
jamster 1 Posted August 14, 2005 Report Share Posted August 14, 2005 they allways take gas masks incase of conventional ga attack such as tear gas which is quite easy to get hold of Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Posted August 14, 2005 Report Share Posted August 14, 2005 this thread needs another picture! Me in my CRW loadout. yers the mask is askew, due to my daughter attacking me with a pillow just before the shot was taken. <{POST_SNAPBACK}> nice pic, could you list the stuff you bought and where from. How much was the vest? and where from? Link to post Share on other sites
The Quarter-master Posted August 15, 2005 Report Share Posted August 15, 2005 ebay.co.uk I guess they would take them with them if they feared a gas attack. <{POST_SNAPBACK}> operationally and in training CS gas is let off in the building as they enter. the S10 also have fitted tinted lenses to save your eyes getting blinded every time a flash bangs goes into a room. far east nice set up. Link to post Share on other sites
Diemaco Posted August 21, 2005 Author Report Share Posted August 21, 2005 cpaxton - no M16 for CRW Link to post Share on other sites
jamster 1 Posted August 22, 2005 Report Share Posted August 22, 2005 stick to the MP5 for the sterotypical loadout Link to post Share on other sites
HawaiiIceMan Posted August 22, 2005 Report Share Posted August 22, 2005 im going to make my CRW kit again. I know where to get everything cept for the tinted outserts, i got them on ebay and that guy doesnt sell em anymore. Anyone know where to get another set or if you wanna sell a pair to me ill buy for 150 -170 USD tops. Link to post Share on other sites
Hvy gear Posted October 13, 2005 Report Share Posted October 13, 2005 i thought the sas used the sef type trigger group on the mp5's? Link to post Share on other sites
Diemaco Posted October 13, 2005 Author Report Share Posted October 13, 2005 No, they use both Link to post Share on other sites
Ingo_Sleeps Posted October 17, 2005 Report Share Posted October 17, 2005 it got mentioned earlier but i figured i'd repeat it (sorry Diemaco), the entry kit tends towards the hallgan tool and a thundersledge, its a weird looking thing, basically a giant ceramic mallet with an angled head and a foot long handle used for mashing in locks and...well, anything daft enough to be in the way. though the MOE Rifleman showed is sometimes used its big and heavy, so when an op requires the team to go though a building where there are lots of internal doors, the thundersledge comes out instead. the MOE is more of a breaching kit for external doors and maybe be brought in if the team reaches something that they can't get around using a cutting charge (might be hostages on the other side) or the big black mallet. the use of respirators (and the 'blacksuit' in general) has an ulterior purpose. the psychological impact of a six foot tall maniac with a gun is emphasized somewhat when the maniac in question is wearing black, and a weird looking mask. this means the SAS assault team don't look human, they don't look like 'soft targets' and they sure as hell don't look like they are going to stop for some jackass waving an AK about the place. many terrorists receive minimal training, if any, so when faced with a highly motivated individual with all this gear on (as simple as it sounds) the idea is they they get scared, and hesitate. then they die. hope that helped, apologies for the psycolgy babble, comes with my occupation Link to post Share on other sites
Diemaco Posted October 17, 2005 Author Report Share Posted October 17, 2005 The SAS don't use the thundersledge, that is a BHI product. From the pics that I have seen they just use a Black sledge hamme, alot cheaper, and the MOE guys don't use PE4 to do walls in anymore, it could harm hostages, they use a wall breaching cannon and det cord on hinges etc. And, yes you are right about the ulterior purpose Link to post Share on other sites
xRAZERx Posted October 23, 2005 Report Share Posted October 23, 2005 The SAS don't use the thundersledge, that is a BHI product. From the pics that I have seen they just use a Black sledge hamme, alot cheaper, and the MOE guys don't use PE4 to do walls in anymore, it could harm hostages, they use a wall breaching cannon and det cord on hinges etc. And, yes you are right about the ulterior purpose <{POST_SNAPBACK}> How can you say they DON'T use it? You're not a member of the unit and I doubt you have a copy of their SOPs or stores list.. The thundersledge is used all over the place, even by a few police units and by the SAS. Link to post Share on other sites
HawaiiIceMan Posted October 28, 2005 Report Share Posted October 28, 2005 seriously.....i also seen a footage of them using the halogen tool I got myself one for display......250 buck piece of metal to me...unless if i have to pry down doors or break glass ^.^ Link to post Share on other sites
American GI Posted November 3, 2005 Report Share Posted November 3, 2005 I've nearly completed my CRW impression. I have also found that the Lenses are not listed on the website I got my hood from..........strange even though i already have lenses. Link to post Share on other sites
snipa_d Posted January 7, 2006 Report Share Posted January 7, 2006 the SAS use whatever weapons they like they have enough weapons in herefords armoury to take a small country and im not exagerating Link to post Share on other sites
Diemaco Posted January 7, 2006 Author Report Share Posted January 7, 2006 Ok then, that is why we see the CRW boys assaulting a building with C8s in pictures, I am sorry about the thundersledge bit I thought he meant something else, then I saw a pic of the real thundersledge. Link to post Share on other sites
FarEast Posted January 7, 2006 Report Share Posted January 7, 2006 The tinted lenses are subject to export licences and end - user certs. So you can't get them new. You can however make them yourself! (They aren't the real thing but if you use polycarbonate then they will be ballistic rated far east nice set up. <{POST_SNAPBACK}> Thank you! Link to post Share on other sites
PariahWolf Posted January 7, 2006 Report Share Posted January 7, 2006 This thread is null and void really because what the SAS use changes evey couple of months, not to mention it is entirely based on whatever the ###### they have near them at the time. Also all this footage of 'SAS' guys storming killhouses is fake, the SAS DO NOT release footage of them training and anyone who does release it is in breach of the official secrets act or something. Also I think you will find the SAS use live round never blanks. Link to post Share on other sites
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