kilfrg7864 Posted September 4, 2007 Report Share Posted September 4, 2007 (edited) so even though mine appears to be way more green than "normal" it is still supposed to work the same way as all of the other multicam material? I just pretty much don't want to be a big green blob in a very arid and brown environment.... Edited September 4, 2007 by kilfrg7864 Link to post Share on other sites
Fuser Posted September 4, 2007 Report Share Posted September 4, 2007 Multicam is owned by Crye Associates. Crye Precision is the manufacture and sales subsidiary of Crye Associates. So in a roundabout way Crye Precision does own the Multicam pattern. The armor components and various combat BDUs are a joint development between Crye Precision, Blackwater USA & Michaels of Oregon. Tru Spec and Propper buy fabric direct from Crye Precision. There aren't any manufacturers out there producing the fabric other than Crye Precision. The variances you see between different articles of clothing, especially between different clothing manufacturers is mostly due to variances during the fabric dying process. Crye Precision has a hard time maintaining an identical dye job during each run. Other variances people often see are due to the unique way the pattern is laid out: most patterns like woodland and DPM have a high degree of repeatability (i.e. You don't have to travel far across the fabric before the pattern is repeated). Multicam on the other hand has low repeatability. Then there's real versus fake multicam. Fake multicam tends to be more saturated, brighter and the patterns are often sharper. <{POST_SNAPBACK}> I see now, that was quite informative. So retailers like TAD and SKD Tactical sell real Crye Multicam, too? I need to get some SKD Multicam trousers... Link to post Share on other sites
kilfrg7864 Posted September 4, 2007 Report Share Posted September 4, 2007 (edited) here is another picture of me and my other buddy, notice how his is way more tan Edited September 4, 2007 by kilfrg7864 Link to post Share on other sites
uscmCorps Posted September 4, 2007 Report Share Posted September 4, 2007 (edited) I see now, that was quite informative. So retailers like TAD and SKD Tactical sell real Crye Multicam, too? I need to get some SKD Multicam trousers... <{POST_SNAPBACK}> Yup, their BDUs are made out of real Crye Multicam Fabric. However, I don't feel that either one of those two manufacturers' BDUs are terribly noteworthy. They charge a lot more mostly because when they first came out there really wasn't any competition and when they had BDUs made, they made low quantities of BDUs. Then Propper and Tru Spec came along and they were able to make large volumes of the BDUs thereby lowering production costs which in turn lowered the per unit cost to the consumer (although possibly sacrificing QC slightly). Both TAD and SKD's BDUs are good quality and have nice little features but just because Propper and Tru Spec's are cheaper does not diminish their quality (they just have less features). I'd be curious to see someone adapt some Propper BDUs with Combat Knee and elbow pads. here is another picture of me and my other buddy, notice how his is way more tan http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v194/kil.../IMG_012422.jpg <{POST_SNAPBACK}> That does look pretty green. Being that your BDUs are from Propper that means they are not made from rip-stop fabric (Tru Specs are made from rip-stop) which means it shouldn't hold the color quite as well. I'd recommend washing those several times in a row. You could even throw in a touch of bleach to lighten/fade them a bit (if you do fade them with bleach, follow all directions on the bottle). Multicam generally looks best when faded a bit. Edited September 4, 2007 by uscmCorps Link to post Share on other sites
kilfrg7864 Posted September 4, 2007 Report Share Posted September 4, 2007 (edited) the combat shirt and trousers are actually in fact rip stop. Ya that was actually the first time I've used my new MC, i only washed it once before, so maybe more washing will help? but wont it make the pattern less effective if it is faded? Taken from Propper site: 65% polyester / 35% cotton Battle Rip fabric. Edited September 4, 2007 by kilfrg7864 Link to post Share on other sites
uscmCorps Posted September 4, 2007 Report Share Posted September 4, 2007 the combat shirt and trousers are actually in fact rip stop. Ya that was actually the first time I've used my new MC, i only washed it once before, so maybe more washing will help? but wont it make the pattern less effective if it is faded? Taken from Propper site: 65% polyester / 35% cotton Battle Rip fabric. <{POST_SNAPBACK}> It might say Battle Rip Fabric, but is it actually rip stop? Take a close look at your fabric, does it have a grid like pattern woven into the fabric? Link to post Share on other sites
kilfrg7864 Posted September 4, 2007 Report Share Posted September 4, 2007 i hope you can see it in this picture but ya I believe that is the grid like pattern you are referring to. If this is rip stop will washing it not make it fade as well? Link to post Share on other sites
Fellowz Posted September 4, 2007 Report Share Posted September 4, 2007 I see now, that was quite informative. So retailers like TAD and SKD Tactical sell real Crye Multicam, too? I need to get some SKD Multicam trousers... <{POST_SNAPBACK}> i got a pair with my Crye Combat shirt, very comfy and there is no colour diffrence between the shirt and the pants. Link to post Share on other sites
Architect Posted September 4, 2007 Report Share Posted September 4, 2007 here is another picture of me and my other buddy, notice how his is way more tan Dude, tbh his looks like fake MC. Thats what multisham looks like after its been in the wash lol If I were you I'd be happy with your greener set. Link to post Share on other sites
msx361 Posted September 4, 2007 Report Share Posted September 4, 2007 Just wash it a few times, maybe even throw a few rock in there if you want a more worn look. Link to post Share on other sites
Fellowz Posted September 4, 2007 Report Share Posted September 4, 2007 no chance im doing that to my crye shirt. Link to post Share on other sites
stewpidbear Posted September 4, 2007 Report Share Posted September 4, 2007 no chance im doing that to my crye shirt. <{POST_SNAPBACK}> No? you will let some one shoot the s@#t out of it to make a similey on your back while you're wearing it! Link to post Share on other sites
Fellowz Posted September 4, 2007 Report Share Posted September 4, 2007 (edited) at least it came off in the wash (the 2nd time around) a rock in the machine wash would make my shirt look like ive gone to bagdad. Edited September 4, 2007 by Fellowz Link to post Share on other sites
Ragnar27 Posted September 4, 2007 Report Share Posted September 4, 2007 Dude, tbh his looks like fake MC. Thats what multisham looks like after its been in the wash lol If I were you I'd be happy with your greener set. <{POST_SNAPBACK}> His mates is definitely fake. You can tell by the fact that the pockets are bright yellow velcro Link to post Share on other sites
frogfish Posted September 5, 2007 Report Share Posted September 5, 2007 I own both a pair of the SKD and TAD pants and have worn the propper pants for a day. To be honest not allot of difference between the SKD and Propper, but TAD's force ten pants are amazing, nothing can compare, although I have never seen a pair of Crye field or R6 pants. Link to post Share on other sites
79TransAm Posted September 5, 2007 Report Share Posted September 5, 2007 where can you get the TAD pants from? Link to post Share on other sites
uscmCorps Posted September 5, 2007 Report Share Posted September 5, 2007 where can you get the TAD pants from? <{POST_SNAPBACK}> TAD Gear. You generally have to buy direct from them. The only problem is that they do very short runs of their products. You kinda have to make sure you buy them within 3 weeks of it being released otherwise you have to wait for the next production cycle. Link to post Share on other sites
Mattk Posted September 5, 2007 Report Share Posted September 5, 2007 Kit list: TQ cool bdu shirt Crye combat pants biggrin.gif BCS Multicam body armour Hatch Hard Knuckle Tan Warrior PLB belt 4 Custom Multicam doubles 2 Warrior doubles Warrior medium utility Dirty Dagger Multicam Folding dumper Custom Multicam riggers belt Converse warrior boots To come: 6 Custom Multicam shingles for PLB belt Warrior TMV vest tan (move doubles onto there from the belt) Some kind of smock or softshell jacket in MC (hopefully) Krylon AEG, Dropleg pistol holster and PLB belt buckle Possibly Crye combat shirt if I can get one for a reasonable price After that there’s not really much else I want to complete my MC Loadout Link to post Share on other sites
frogfish Posted September 5, 2007 Report Share Posted September 5, 2007 First of who made that combat shirt? Second www.tadgear.com, and they have the force 10 pants in stock, but call to get the sizes. Link to post Share on other sites
Mattk Posted September 5, 2007 Report Share Posted September 5, 2007 combat shirt made by Tactical quartermaster. only got acu atm but getitng lots of sizes in mc soon. material match is very good compared to crye. good enough for me to sell my field shirt and use this instead. Link to post Share on other sites
uscmCorps Posted September 5, 2007 Report Share Posted September 5, 2007 http://i17.photobucket.com/albums/b79/matkell/2.jpg http://i17.photobucket.com/albums/b79/matkell/1.jpg http://i17.photobucket.com/albums/b79/matkell/3.jpg Kit list: TQ cool bdu shirt <{POST_SNAPBACK}> Nicely done. Does the shirt collar zip up all the way like a real Combat Shirt? And how hard do you think it would be to adapt the elbows to use Crye Combat Elbow Pads? First of who made that combat shirt? Second www.tadgear.com, and they have the force 10 pants in stock, but call to get the sizes. <{POST_SNAPBACK}> The Combat Shirt is made by TacticalQuarterMaster It appears to be accurate to the Gen 1 Combat Shirt, except it doesn't accept the Crye elbow pads. TADGear only have the Force 10 Pants in the non-ripstop Multicam flavor, and in sizes XL-XXL at this time. It'll be a long wait till they get them back in decent sizes in stock. Link to post Share on other sites
Mick0 Posted September 5, 2007 Report Share Posted September 5, 2007 I want one of those in Woodland so badly. You know where I could get one? Mattk, btw nice multicam loadout. Link to post Share on other sites
Mattk Posted September 5, 2007 Report Share Posted September 5, 2007 the shirt zips all the way ala the crye shirt yes. the collar is quite big though so that's why it's folded. i believe it fits the field elbow pads so it should be able to be modded to fit the combat pads. Link to post Share on other sites
uscmCorps Posted September 5, 2007 Report Share Posted September 5, 2007 combat shirt made by Tactical quartermaster. only got acu atm but getitng lots of sizes in mc soon. material match is very good compared to crye. good enough for me to sell my field shirt and use this instead. <{POST_SNAPBACK}> Do you know if they run kinda small like the real ones do? For example, I wear a Medium Mil-Spec BDU shirt but I have to wear a Large Combat Shirt otherwise it is beyond uber tight. Link to post Share on other sites
Mattk Posted September 5, 2007 Report Share Posted September 5, 2007 I had medium regular field shirt which fitted just right. Large in this model so yes id say go next bdu size up. The arms are quite long on these and as stated the collar comes high on the neck Link to post Share on other sites
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