101matt1 Posted September 9, 2006 Report Share Posted September 9, 2006 Does it matter? Get back on topic please. Link to post Share on other sites
Kraut Posted September 9, 2006 Report Share Posted September 9, 2006 FN has nothing on HK, but it's all personal preference. SAS vs US SpecOps... All I see is a bunch of assumptions and no fact. Take it outside, children. Link to post Share on other sites
Pablo Posted September 10, 2006 Report Share Posted September 10, 2006 Back on topic please. Link to post Share on other sites
Nemesis Posted September 10, 2006 Report Share Posted September 10, 2006 MP5. Yes, MP5. Link to post Share on other sites
Jagdraben Posted September 10, 2006 Report Share Posted September 10, 2006 SEALs better than the SAS?! <loads of BS> <{POST_SNAPBACK}> Actually, because Western special forces units cross-train so often, the only thing that would affect the outcome of any competition between any two of them would be what they ate the night before, how many hours of sleep they got, and what they ate that morning. [/off-topic] Two MP5Ks with 1000-rnd drum magazines. Two MP7A1s with oodles of STAR 100-rnd midcaps failing that. ® Link to post Share on other sites
Kraut Posted September 10, 2006 Report Share Posted September 10, 2006 Two MP5Ks with 1000-rnd drum magazines. Two MP7A1s with oodles of STAR 100-rnd midcaps failing that. ® <{POST_SNAPBACK}> Sounds like a great plan. I hope I never run into you in a small room. Link to post Share on other sites
Munitions Man Posted September 10, 2006 Report Share Posted September 10, 2006 G36c or MP5k, wont regret it at all Link to post Share on other sites
Delta6 Posted September 10, 2006 Report Share Posted September 10, 2006 other id say go with the g3-sg1 because it has good long range accuracy it shoots good quiet as well but a very large gun to use thank goodness for the bipod Link to post Share on other sites
alundiel Posted September 10, 2006 Report Share Posted September 10, 2006 other id say go with the g3-sg1 because it has good long range accuracy it shoots good quiet as well but a very large gun to use thank goodness for the bipod <{POST_SNAPBACK}> he said cqb I have a G3 and love it but it is wayyy too big for cqb if you ask me Link to post Share on other sites
Corben G Posted September 10, 2006 Report Share Posted September 10, 2006 Hello I vote to M 4 cqb I have one, so a M15A4cqb. It's perfect. Full métal to classic army. Corben Link to post Share on other sites
Onechance Posted September 10, 2006 Report Share Posted September 10, 2006 Ireland's Special forces group Rangers would kick the head of the SEAL and SAS. As for a CQB gun, Ringo what's your budget? What other, if any guns do you own? Are you going to be using it for mainly CQB or will use it for woodland aswell Link to post Share on other sites
Jaager Posted September 10, 2006 Report Share Posted September 10, 2006 how about one of these stupidly small shoot things indoors armalites from CA Link to post Share on other sites
Dentonboy Posted September 10, 2006 Report Share Posted September 10, 2006 The H&K 416 does seem like a good compromise it must be said. But pricey! Link to post Share on other sites
101matt1 Posted September 10, 2006 Report Share Posted September 10, 2006 MP5. Any of 'em. Or P90. P90's and MP5's for CQB are the bestestiestest of CQB!! Link to post Share on other sites
poorieuser Posted September 10, 2006 Report Share Posted September 10, 2006 H&K ftw. Been saying it all day. Then FN. Then Colt. In that order. <{POST_SNAPBACK}> Link to post Share on other sites
psikodude Posted September 10, 2006 Report Share Posted September 10, 2006 I've only just attended my first CQB skirmish and I used my stock TM G36C with a combination of hi-caps and mid-caps depending on the game. Did the job for me but I'd love to have a go with an M4 CQBR or similar shortened Armalite An MP5K would make an excellent secondary weapon. It's on my shopping list! ps.: There should be a different thread for this SAS vs. the worlds special forces petty argument if at all. But for my two pence, it's obviously going to be most likely that everyone thinks they're own countries SF is the best - good bit of patriotism from all. But it's also true that whenever there's a "situation" at hand in an allied country the SAS are always called upon to be on site as "consultants". Link to post Share on other sites
El_Greco Posted September 10, 2006 Report Share Posted September 10, 2006 I would say MP7 with a bunch of mid-caps. I personally find reloading much easier faster than an MP5 (but that might just be me) Link to post Share on other sites
Jagdraben Posted September 10, 2006 Report Share Posted September 10, 2006 Ireland's Special forces group Rangers would kick the head of the SEAL and SAS. <{POST_SNAPBACK}> Looks like someone needs to learn how to read. Actually, because Western special forces units cross-train so often, the only thing that would affect the outcome of any competition between any two of them would be what they ate the night before, how many hours of sleep they got, and what they ate that morning. [/off-topic] <{POST_SNAPBACK}> ® Link to post Share on other sites
dannyboy Posted September 10, 2006 Report Share Posted September 10, 2006 Looks like someone needs to learn how to read. ® <{POST_SNAPBACK}> Says he who ignores uber mod Pablo Back on topic please. <{POST_SNAPBACK}> Link to post Share on other sites
Jagdraben Posted September 10, 2006 Report Share Posted September 10, 2006 Says he who ignores uber mod Pablo <{POST_SNAPBACK}> Uber-mod Pablo didn't show them why they were wrong in their off-topicness, though. Link to post Share on other sites
Aaron886 Posted September 10, 2006 Report Share Posted September 10, 2006 mp5, at least from my experience. Link to post Share on other sites
c_a_r_t_e_r_3_5 Posted September 10, 2006 Report Share Posted September 10, 2006 On-topic...yet off at the same time! lol! Look at what weapons the SAS and the SEALs use in different situations. In CQB (entering a building etc.) they use MP5s. For more open areas they use M4s/M16s. Simple! Makes me wonder why I didn't think of it before! ... Link to post Share on other sites
Jagdraben Posted September 10, 2006 Report Share Posted September 10, 2006 They also use pistols. Sometimes they use pistols as primaries depending on how close things are. Link to post Share on other sites
Billy210 Posted September 10, 2006 Report Share Posted September 10, 2006 Well I voted MP5 because I have a hankering for one right now . Also, in real-steel terms they are still the most popular CQB guns around, but are becoming less effective due to more criminals/terrorists using body armour. That said, the TM G36C (which I have) is a superb all-round weapon and is easily short enough for CQB. Plus there are loads of mag choices for it I've used a friend's P90TR a few times as well, and it isn't half bad either. The range, power and accuracy are pretty much the same as the G36C (read= Good) and because it is so small and light it actually has a little bit of 'kick' to it from the piston moving when you fire. Just makes it that little bit more special The only thing with the P90 is the mag choices, but if you keep the hicaps lubed they are pretty reliable. The problem is carrying them round :s I like all of the guns, but MP5 FTW! Link to post Share on other sites
Delta6 Posted September 10, 2006 Report Share Posted September 10, 2006 or you could just go with a mc-51 made by HK or the tm one Link to post Share on other sites
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