Slim_Shady Posted April 23, 2009 Report Share Posted April 23, 2009 And the Firefly - but its hard to come by. PSS2 = APS2 part, I've heard it doesn't quite fit the APS96 but thats only anecdotal. Link to post Share on other sites
shmook Posted April 23, 2009 Report Share Posted April 23, 2009 PSS2 = APS2 part, I've heard it doesn't quite fit the APS96 but thats only anecdotal. some parts are common, as i found out when trawling for bits for mine, but the only thing i can remember is common is the piston head. some sites tell you which are, eg it will say piston head PSS2/PSS96. other sites dont say. it can be... annoying! Link to post Share on other sites
Slim_Shady Posted April 23, 2009 Report Share Posted April 23, 2009 I just bought PSS96 parts, never really worried about commonallity because there was simply never a need to. In this case I know for a fact that the PSS2 Aero Chamber isn't any better (in some respects its worse) than the PDI hop so I wouldn't ever advise anyone to buy it. Yes, it is annoying to only get 50% of the facts however Link to post Share on other sites
shmook Posted April 23, 2009 Report Share Posted April 23, 2009 yar true. i only found out as i was pimping mine, and needed a piston head, and couldnt find a PSS96 it stock anywhere, and then found out that it was the same as the PSS2 although i struggle to believe ANYTHING is worse than the PDI hop chamber. it drives me to tears and rage on a regular basis, and it still aint right... Link to post Share on other sites
Slim_Shady Posted April 23, 2009 Report Share Posted April 23, 2009 *nod* I ditched mine and went back to the standard hop + OK Projects barrel. The Firefly is damn good but its an fiddly S.O.B to tune and I could only get enough hop-up out of it (on .29's) at close to 600fps which meant that skirmishing was out the window. Shame really, because it was ridiculously consistent. Link to post Share on other sites
shmook Posted April 23, 2009 Report Share Posted April 23, 2009 hmm, what sort of maximum/effective range, and accuracy are you getting now? cos im highly tempted to junk my hop unit in favour of something... useable Link to post Share on other sites
Slim_Shady Posted April 23, 2009 Report Share Posted April 23, 2009 Well, when I've just set the hop and threadlocked it in place, I can hit coke cans at 50m on a perfect day, and a sheet of A4 at 70....But...(there's always a but) the shot to shot consistency isn't as good as a VSR, and the hop has a habit of unwinding itself because of the vibration caused by the return of the piston which APS' seem prone to (can also shake the magazine loose if I don't tape it in). Its not as good as I would like (its not as good as my old VSR) but it was the first bolt action I ever bought, and Its never let me down so I can accept that there are better rifles out there for less cash. Link to post Share on other sites
shmook Posted May 6, 2009 Report Share Posted May 6, 2009 sorry for the late reply, only just seen this! thanks for the info bud Link to post Share on other sites
ben3265 Posted May 7, 2009 Report Share Posted May 7, 2009 just got my well l96, and ive downgraded it to 350fps (site rules), wondering what weight bb's to use? im thinking .25's but it will lower the fps to much for my liking... any help apreciated Link to post Share on other sites
AnotherJesus Posted May 7, 2009 Report Share Posted May 7, 2009 Oh dear. Heavier ammo lowers FPS, but it doesn't lower energy output. In fact, it marginally increases it. But that's not important. What it does that matters, is gives you extra range, and accuracy. Don't use .2s, they're rubbish. I'd be useing .25s or .28s at that FPS. Depends on how much hop you can get, and how you like your gun to fire. The heavier ammo also gets to distance targets faster than lighter ammo, as it keeps it momentum better. Link to post Share on other sites
Slim_Shady Posted May 7, 2009 Report Share Posted May 7, 2009 Oh dear. Heavier ammo lowers FPS, but it doesn't lower energy output. In fact, it marginally increases it. But that's not important. What it does that matters, is gives you extra range, and accuracy. Don't use .2s, they're rubbish. I'd be useing .25s or .28s at that FPS. Depends on how much hop you can get, and how you like your gun to fire. The heavier ammo also gets to distance targets faster than lighter ammo, as it keeps it momentum better. This. Tokyo Marui .25's or possibly Madbull Match Grade is my own choice, but equally some good .28's will do the job. Link to post Share on other sites
Nihil_75 Posted May 10, 2009 Report Share Posted May 10, 2009 Just thought you guys would like to know: Found this while searching for a zero trigger for my Well type 96: http://www.pyramydair.com/s/a/UTG_Trigger_...soft_Rifle/2642 They will sell UTG stock triggers for peanuts. Looks exactly like the stock well trigger, I think it will fit, hope the quality is the same. Now, my stock trigger box lasted for quite some time with a 180 spring, so you can get 10 of these and it will still be cheaper then one zero trigger... Link to post Share on other sites
Hammerfall Posted May 10, 2009 Report Share Posted May 10, 2009 We need more info on the TM L96! Noticed it in the news section, was mighty surprised. Wonder if it is just a VSR re-bodied Link to post Share on other sites
shmook Posted May 10, 2009 Report Share Posted May 10, 2009 if it is, i will be scrapping my heavily upgraded clone, and buy a TM one! Link to post Share on other sites
TacMasteR Posted May 13, 2009 Report Share Posted May 13, 2009 Just thought you guys would like to know: Found this while searching for a zero trigger for my Well type 96: http://www.pyramydair.com/s/a/UTG_Trigger_...soft_Rifle/2642 They will sell UTG stock triggers for peanuts. Looks exactly like the stock well trigger, I think it will fit, hope the quality is the same. Now, my stock trigger box lasted for quite some time with a 180 spring, so you can get 10 of these and it will still be cheaper then one zero trigger... i purchased one of these and it is the exact same. Minus a small nub of plastic that mine (warrior one) didnt have. The UTG mags seem to have the same thing, but unlike the mags i didnt have to shave it down on the trigger assembly Link to post Share on other sites
Slim_Shady Posted May 13, 2009 Report Share Posted May 13, 2009 We need more info on the TM L96! Noticed it in the news section, was mighty surprised. Wonder if it is just a VSR re-bodied Looks to be gas unless they have placed a cosmetic falsg mag on the body for the sake of appearances (its also included in a slideshow of purely Gas rifles/pistols so you never know I guess....). Link to post Share on other sites
Slim_Shady Posted May 15, 2009 Report Share Posted May 15, 2009 More info on the Marui L96 - it is based on a VSR and has a magazine which feeds forward, rather than up: http://www.x-fire.org/09hobbyshow_j.html http://translate.google.co.uk/translate?hl...23L96%26hl%3Den Link to post Share on other sites
shmook Posted May 15, 2009 Report Share Posted May 15, 2009 dammit, slim, im trying to SAVE money! might be parting out my L96 to fund this and upgrades... but shall wait for release and reviews first! Link to post Share on other sites
Slim_Shady Posted May 15, 2009 Report Share Posted May 15, 2009 £205 at the current exchange rates - thats roughly (slightly more) than I paid for my Zero Trigger, Teflon Cylinder, and Pro cylinder head when I bought them new for my APS96 back in '04 Link to post Share on other sites
docs90 Posted May 15, 2009 Report Share Posted May 15, 2009 nice and plasticy ,wonder if this will be then end of the maruzen L96 then ,as the aps ,s died out with the vsr Link to post Share on other sites
Slim_Shady Posted May 15, 2009 Report Share Posted May 15, 2009 The Maruzen has been dead for a while to be honest - this is just the last shovel of dirt into the hole Link to post Share on other sites
Pendra Posted May 18, 2009 Report Share Posted May 18, 2009 It is not exactly VSR. - Different trigger house, same trigger house internals. It uses the 45 degree system which has many cons and no pros compared to the L96 90 degree system. - Different cylinder (lower diameter) - Different cylinder internals (slimmer) - Different hopup (probably mini VSR, like in the MP002, but who knows) I'd not burry the APS L96 just yet. By the way, just fixed my broken plastic trigger house with 2 7mm/20mm/20mm alu blocks. The plastic tabs broke. So I removed the remaining tabs. Drilled through the alu blocks with a 3.2mm drill for the screws. Put on the trigger house and installed the cylinder guide. Finally screwd on the blocks and guess what, it holds firmly . It took like 30 mins. Also installed a Hexagon Product Hopup chamber, a 509mm 6.03 Prometheus AEG barrel, a Firefly hard AEG rubber, Hexagon Product barrel spacers, KingArms piston and Laylax priston head. Spring, cylinder, spring guide is still stock. I managed to do headshots at 82m (distance according to Google earth) and had no problem to hit chest sized targets using MadBull .4 BB. I shot 6-7 full mags and averaged 5 headshots, 12 chest hit and 3 fliers / mag. Now I'm officially happy with my Warrior1 And officially unhappy with my VSR after installing a PDI Trigger house and a SP170 spring. The trigger pull is ultra ultra hard. Link to post Share on other sites
Stealthbomber Posted May 18, 2009 Report Share Posted May 18, 2009 Funny, I always said it'd be possible to sort out the Warrior trigger housing by fitting a metal U-shaped bracket all the way around the trigger housing which support the plastic housing and replace the tabs. Alas, when I saw a K2 trigger housing on eBay for £20 I grabbed it and forgot about any other possibilities. I've purchased a HP hop-up myself although I suppose I might've asked them to give me one for free seeing as how their item looks IDENTICAL to the way I have modified the original unit. In the end, I think it's a bit silly when people say "this means the end for..." because, at the end of the day, there really can be only one "best" thing. If we all wanted "the best" then we'd all be using a VSR10 sniper rifle, a G36 assault rifle and a TM 1911 pistol. We're not though. Vive la difference! Link to post Share on other sites
Pendra Posted May 18, 2009 Report Share Posted May 18, 2009 No U bracket, just 2 plain alu blocks/bricks. I will put up some pics later. Link to post Share on other sites
minijosh Posted May 18, 2009 Report Share Posted May 18, 2009 Why is it so hard to find a zero trigger or anything similar in stock? This is making me upset!!!!!! I want to hook up my gun for my desert sniping. Need the range!! Anyone know of a place in the states that has them in stock? Link to post Share on other sites
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