renegadecow Posted January 21, 2016 Report Share Posted January 21, 2016 The mags here are 80 USED, and 100-110 EACH new.. Can't find it now but I swear there was an Apple Airsoft or Iron Airsoft Vector mag at EBAir, something like $80 for a pack of three, shipped. Link to post Share on other sites
fabio Posted January 21, 2016 Report Share Posted January 21, 2016 supprised krytac are not making there own GBB Vector Link to post Share on other sites
hitmanNo2 Posted January 21, 2016 Report Share Posted January 21, 2016 Yeah. Apple Airsoft. I'm not sure they were that cheap though unfortunately. I've seen them at other places for $40 or so. Link to post Share on other sites
BioRage Posted January 21, 2016 Report Share Posted January 21, 2016 I really want the CQB Masada and MKM ERG (10.5") Was it on display this year? Link to post Share on other sites
Brigg Posted January 21, 2016 Author Report Share Posted January 21, 2016 I would doubt that after pulling the rights to manufacture the Vector from KWA, that KWA would be at all willing to share any of their work with whoever Kriss decided to give the rights to. Link to post Share on other sites
bankz5152 Posted January 21, 2016 Report Share Posted January 21, 2016 Kriss owns Krytac or the other way around on my phone, my spelling will suck Link to post Share on other sites
Brigg Posted January 21, 2016 Author Report Share Posted January 21, 2016 Either way, the internal design of the former KWA GBB Vector is the property of KWA. The problem is that if Krytac or whoever decides to make a GBB Vector again, they may well have legal problems with KWA if the internals are at all similar. So unless they reach an agreement over it, I wouldn't expect to see another GBB version soon. In other news, Airsoft GI answered on Facebook that the KWA revolvers are indeed metal, so that's good. The look of them screamed of HW plastic to me. And another cool thing, is that the speedloaders are in fact real steel 357 speedloaders. I think that's be a first. Link to post Share on other sites
machgo Posted January 21, 2016 Report Share Posted January 21, 2016 Can't find it now but I swear there was an Apple Airsoft or Iron Airsoft Vector mag at EBAir, something like $80 for a pack of three, shipped. Just got a couple from Evike. They like to spit back when filling, and one has poorly cast feed lips. So much so that it almost always triple feeds BBs, jamming the bolt. Cosmetically they look very good--virtually indistinguishable from the KWA mag. $36.00 each Link to post Share on other sites
renegadecow Posted January 22, 2016 Report Share Posted January 22, 2016 the speedloaders are in fact real steel 357 speedloaders. I think that's be a first. In the sense that it'll be the first Python with properly sized ejecting shells, but Marushin revolvers (both old and X-Cartridge) have been able to use real speed loaders as well. Link to post Share on other sites
CaptCalvin Posted January 22, 2016 Report Share Posted January 22, 2016 KWA confirmed at shot show mp40 will be full auto only. But if the ROF is as slow as the real one it wouldn't be hard at all to let off one round at a time. Link to post Share on other sites
BioRage Posted January 22, 2016 Report Share Posted January 22, 2016 KWA confirmed at shot show mp40 will be full auto only. But if the ROF is as slow as the real one it wouldn't be hard at all to let off one round at a time. Meh, skip then. I like to pull the trigger fast like on a GBB pistol, if that's how it'll be, for sure it'll be going full auto :\ Link to post Share on other sites
CaptCalvin Posted January 22, 2016 Report Share Posted January 22, 2016 Well if I get a gbb mp40 practicality wouldn't be my primary concern. I'd get one because well, just to say I got a gbb mp40. In that case I'd want it as realistic as they can make it. Link to post Share on other sites
Brigg Posted January 22, 2016 Author Report Share Posted January 22, 2016 I wonder if anyone will make a semi auto sear for it. If the internals of the kwa mp40 are anything like the real one, then it should be possible. Would've been nice if KWA had included a hidden selector switch somewhere though. It really does limit its usefulness, as a cqb weapon is usually limited to semi at cqb fields. Link to post Share on other sites
renegadecow Posted January 22, 2016 Report Share Posted January 22, 2016 On the other hand, dedicated GBBR players aren't exactly conducive to bb spam. Link to post Share on other sites
Brigg Posted January 22, 2016 Author Report Share Posted January 22, 2016 Yeah, not usually. But the fact that the gun is always on full auto would make it barred at my fields. If the firing rate is slow enough though, its possible it might be allowed anyway though, who knows. Link to post Share on other sites
CaptCalvin Posted January 22, 2016 Report Share Posted January 22, 2016 If it's like the real thing it'd be slower than if you pulled the trigger fast enough on some semi auto guns. Link to post Share on other sites
emp3ror86 Posted January 22, 2016 Report Share Posted January 22, 2016 Fancy rail for TM SCAR finally (angry gun doesn't love money apparently), .308 GBB, EBB ACR... PTS wants my money. Link to post Share on other sites
LooneyAirsoft Posted January 23, 2016 Report Share Posted January 23, 2016 supprised krytac are not making there own GBB Vector I have a feeling that Krytac (owned by Kriss) has no interest in making a GBB, at least not in the moment. If Kriss could have legally stopped KWA from manufacturing Vectors, I would bet they would have succeeded by now. Forgot all the legal . I think a Vector AEG addresses the airsoft market a lot better than the GBB does, in terms of cost and practicality. If you think about it... the Kriss Vector AEG would be a direct competing product to the KWA Vector GBB. I doubt most airsofters would buy both, considering the prices. What you guys think? Link to post Share on other sites
Alias1983 Posted January 23, 2016 Report Share Posted January 23, 2016 I have a feeling that Krytac (owned by Kriss) has no interest in making a GBB, at least not in the moment. If Kriss could have legally stopped KWA from manufacturing Vectors, I would bet they would have succeeded by now. Forgot all the legal ######. I think a Vector AEG addresses the airsoft market a lot better than the GBB does, in terms of cost and practicality. If you think about it... the Kriss Vector AEG would be a direct competing product to the KWA Vector GBB. I doubt most airsofters would buy both, considering the prices. What you guys think? People will buy both.The way kwa does things is why I don't care for them at all. Release new gun, for 1 year then your Sol. Link to post Share on other sites
Horsem4n Posted January 23, 2016 Report Share Posted January 23, 2016 When it comes to the FAO on the MP40, even if it does shoot at a slow rof, I don't think it will be allowed at any fields with semi auto limitation because of the definition of FA used in the insurance contracts. The insurance contracts may vary from place to place, but I know one field near me wouldn't allow it because of the definition they used in the contract (I worked for them and was able to read it). Link to post Share on other sites
tquilha Posted January 24, 2016 Report Share Posted January 24, 2016 Well, if one wants a select-fire version, all you need is to make a MP41. Take the MP 40, add a fire selector and the MP28 wood stock. Presto. Very much unkown and rare WW2 weapon... I'll be waiting for this one to be released, Link to post Share on other sites
Habakure Posted January 24, 2016 Report Share Posted January 24, 2016 I have a feeling that Krytac (owned by Kriss) has no interest in making a GBB, at least not in the moment. If Kriss could have legally stopped KWA from manufacturing Vectors, I would bet they would have succeeded by now. Kwa don't make the vector anymore, they had to stop. There was a thread on here about it and a member on here had all the details to boot. But for the life of me I can't remember the members name. . . Link to post Share on other sites
Brigg Posted January 24, 2016 Author Report Share Posted January 24, 2016 Well, if one wants a select-fire version, all you need is to make a MP41. Take the MP 40, add a fire selector and the MP28 wood stock. Presto. Very much unkown and rare WW2 weapon... I'll be waiting for this one to be released, The Mp41 was a very different weapon internally then the Mp40 (And actually *was* a Schmeisser, unlike the mp40) The tubular receivers and mag wells are the same, but In order to make an Mp41 you would have to completely custom make the entire fire control group, as that portion is taken from the mp28 as well. Its probably doable, since the mp28 fire control unit is a very straight forward, simple design. But it would still be a lot of machining. One good thing is that the kwa is going to be open bolt like the Mac-11 AKA: No hammer. That means you could actually do this since the valve striker is separate from the fcg. It really doesnt matter how you hold back the bolt, as even releasing it by hand would fire the gun. People will buy both. The way kwa does things is why I don't care for them at all. Release new gun, for 1 year then your Sol. You realize that KWA were legally barred from manufacturing Vectors, right? Kriss Arms or whatever their name is pulled KWAs rights to make it. So go blame them. Link to post Share on other sites
renegadecow Posted January 24, 2016 Report Share Posted January 24, 2016 Actually, as I recall from Alizard, KWA was in breach of contract which made Kriss pull out. So if anyone, blame KWA. Link to post Share on other sites
Brigg Posted January 24, 2016 Author Report Share Posted January 24, 2016 The exact details I'm sure can't be disclosed for legal reasons, as is usually the case with these things. However, point being, KWA didn't just stop making them to scorn their users. It was the result of litigation. The fact that KWA continue to stock replacement parts and magazines should be proof enough that they weren't looking to hurt the users. Link to post Share on other sites
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