Warning Posted November 24, 2008 Report Share Posted November 24, 2008 Just spotted this on airsoft-news.eu, but decided not to copy what they posted, but decided to copy from ICS' website instead Here's the info and piccys from ICS and a link to there Fancy Flash Thing (clicky)(also takes awhile to load) which gives a takedown guide and how to install battery: Full metal body, all movable parts are designed as manoeuvrable as the movable parts on real SG551&552 ICS doesn't hesitate to invest on stamping for upper receiver and aluminium die-casting for lower receiver. Rivets and all details are copy from real SIG 551/552. Besides, ICS obtain the authorization of SIG SG551/552 trademark. The engravings on both side of the metal body are same as the engraving on real SIG SG 551/552. ICS Sig 551 Swat Motor: Turbo 3000 middle pin motor (MC-128) Material:Steel, Aluminium die-casting Velocity:Velocity varies according to different battery and spring setting Length: 835mm Length(folded): 578mm Barrel length: 370mm Weight(without battery): 2,800g Barrel diameter: 6.08mm Magazine weight: 200 g. Magazine capacity:470 rounds Spring setting: M120 + 8 holes silent piston head (mc-39+mc-121) Gears: Steel (mc-14) Bushing: Steel (mc-03) ICS SIG 552 Commando Motor: Turbo 3000 middle pin motor (MC-128) Material: Steel, Aluminium die-casting Velocity: Velocity varies according to different battery and spring setting Length: 728mm Length(folded):470mm Barrel length:263mm Weight(without battery):2,600g Barrel diameter: 6.08mm Magazine weight: 200 g. Magazine capacity:470 rounds Spring setting: M120 + 8 holes silent piston head (mc-39+mc-121) Gears: Steel (mc-14) Bushing: Steel (mc-03) Personally i think the 551 has made it to my to buy list along with ICS' L85A2 P.S. thought i'd start a new news thread since the last one is quite a few pages back (and have been watching to much Top Gear (sorry)) Link to post Share on other sites
InexcelsisDeo Posted November 24, 2008 Report Share Posted November 24, 2008 sigh* i'm still waiting for a 550, either ICS or G&G Link to post Share on other sites
MikeG Posted November 24, 2008 Report Share Posted November 24, 2008 The 551 does look absolutely excellent. Nice TopGear reference, BTW Link to post Share on other sites
Robinio Posted November 24, 2008 Report Share Posted November 24, 2008 Hope they release the FNC soon! Link to post Share on other sites
Wege Posted November 24, 2008 Report Share Posted November 24, 2008 tis frustrating, as I have an email from ICS saying "55x released!".. and yet.. no place where to find them OR a RRP either. grrrrr Link to post Share on other sites
TheFull9 Posted November 24, 2008 Report Share Posted November 24, 2008 Wish there was a 556 up there though. Link to post Share on other sites
Bersy Posted November 24, 2008 Report Share Posted November 24, 2008 Can't wait to find out how much these will be! but i can't make my mind up which one i want! decisions decisions! they do look awesome tho! I hope ICS bring out the cheekpiece etc and other bits and bobs for it aswell! Link to post Share on other sites
Gigueand Posted November 24, 2008 Report Share Posted November 24, 2008 A 556 would have been a step in the right direction... Oh well. Is there anything particularly innovative about this piece, aside from being the first full-metal SIG 5xx on the market? Does it have any of the innovative stuff like the M4 series or L85 series? Link to post Share on other sites
Jimisin73 Posted November 24, 2008 Report Share Posted November 24, 2008 OK as a Sig 552 fan, this is great news - In the past I've come close, on more than one occasion, to shelling out the close to $300.00+ for the metal body for my TM but I can't bring myself to do it when the same cash could bring me another whole gun. Additionally, if they come out with long midcaps for these I would be in seventh heaven. Does anyone know if there are going to be TM compatible (Mag-wise)? Link to post Share on other sites
UrPeaceKeeper Posted November 24, 2008 Report Share Posted November 24, 2008 OK as a Sig 552 fan, this is great news - In the past I've come close, on more than one occasion, to shelling out the close to $300.00+ for the metal body for my TM but I can't bring myself to do it when the same cash could bring me another whole gun. Additionally, if they come out with long midcaps for these I would be in seventh heaven. Does anyone know if there are going to be TM compatible (Mag-wise)? Yes they are, they've had midcaps out for a while now havent they? At least they have been announced about 6 months ago What makes this different? Beasty Motor, well shimmed gearbox and Full metal, go go gadget Link to post Share on other sites
MattG Posted November 24, 2008 Report Share Posted November 24, 2008 ooooo didn't see this thread. I made a thread in general discussion linking the ICS site, dated 21st release date. Intrigued I emailed Zero1 to see if they knew wjhen it would be released to retailers or any indication on price (they have the ICS sig magazine for sale already) but they have no idea when/how much it will be. the wait continues! looks excellent too, there are 2 youtube vids about of the ICS sig, but these may not be production models... Link to post Share on other sites
Stuey Posted November 24, 2008 Report Share Posted November 24, 2008 Additionally, if they come out with long midcaps for these I would be in seventh heaven. MAG have been making long midcaps for ages. At RedWolf Stu. Link to post Share on other sites
Jimisin73 Posted November 24, 2008 Report Share Posted November 24, 2008 I'm a geek - I pray for dummy rounds in my long midcaps... that's what I'm hoping for... (I know, I know, fat chance...) Link to post Share on other sites
Magsz Posted November 24, 2008 Report Share Posted November 24, 2008 Were these supposed to have split gearboxes as well? Supposedly you can adjust the tension on the spring to increase or decrease velocity but honestly, ive never been interested in systems like that since thats how you induce premature spring fatigue by taxing it past its tension limit. Link to post Share on other sites
Foxhound_Tur Posted November 24, 2008 Report Share Posted November 24, 2008 Nope, no split gearbox. Bute Takedown is much easier, the TM is a PITA to disassemble. Link to post Share on other sites
Perch Posted November 24, 2008 Report Share Posted November 24, 2008 Have a closer look at the Markings. It says SigArms, not the Correct SwissArms ^^ That's how they're trying to get around the Trademarkissue with G&G SigArms and SwissArms are two different companies. Link to post Share on other sites
Lax Posted November 24, 2008 Report Share Posted November 24, 2008 Erm... No release date No burst No accessory confirmed, neither RIS are 395 fps announced on the ugly fancy flash thing I don't have a reason to desire it anymore Link to post Share on other sites
Panzergraf Posted November 24, 2008 Report Share Posted November 24, 2008 What's wrong with 395fps? You could always downgrade it if it's too much. Link to post Share on other sites
Lax Posted November 24, 2008 Report Share Posted November 24, 2008 I know, that's just a point between others, that's just not ready to play Link to post Share on other sites
Warning Posted November 24, 2008 Author Report Share Posted November 24, 2008 Wish there was a 556 up there though. tbh i wish they'd do a 556 aswell tbh i'd love to use the more common stanag mags instead of the larger sig mags I know, that's just a point between others, that's just not ready to play tbh the L85A2 was hot aswell if i remember some one said theres was shooting at about 420, but i agree with what Panzergraf said you can always downgrade, which according to the flash thing is pretty simple Link to post Share on other sites
707tanman Posted November 24, 2008 Report Share Posted November 24, 2008 Nice i am hoping u can fit a battery in the front of the 552 and do not need a battery box like in some of the pics even room for a mini would be nice id just shoot for a li-po also would like some short mags too. Link to post Share on other sites
StMatX Posted November 24, 2008 Report Share Posted November 24, 2008 Does anyone know when are comming in euro airsoft store's? I'm very interest in SIG 551 Tnx Link to post Share on other sites
MattG Posted November 24, 2008 Report Share Posted November 24, 2008 sigh* i'm still waiting for a 550, either ICS or G&G 550 is on its way! http://www.blacksierra.net/ShowArticle.asp...CookieSupport=1 oh and more 552 pics here: http://www.airsoftcanada.com/showthread.php?t=69522 Link to post Share on other sites
M4A1lover Posted November 25, 2008 Report Share Posted November 25, 2008 i think im in love A Link to post Share on other sites
XavierMace Posted November 25, 2008 Report Share Posted November 25, 2008 Have a closer look at the Markings. It says SigArms, not the Correct SwissArms ^^ That's how they're trying to get around the Trademarkissue with G&G SigArms and SwissArms are two different companies. SigArms is the American branch of the company. Sig 55x's are available in the US under the SigArms name. They are not incorrect trades, they just aren't SwissArms trades. In addition, if you really want to get technical about it, neither company's names actually appears on the sides of the receiver on the real ones. More over, since the US is the country with the most trademark issues it's easier to deal with the US branch. Lastly, I'm still waiting to see anything about the supposed G&G Sig 550 other than that one set of pictures. If G&G had actually reached a licensing agreement, it seems to me they would be saying something. Lastly, if this was the case, it would be pretty silly of ICS to put the SwissArms name all over their site since that would clearly be illegal use of the trademark. InexcelsisDeo: ICS's original plans were to do the 550 and 556 if they had a successful launch of the 551/552. I can't say for certain that is still the plan, but it was last time I asked anyways. I've been talking to them about accessories, but I will bring it up again next time I talk to them as well as trying to find out if they still plan on finishing up the model line. Link to post Share on other sites
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