chas Posted March 28, 2009 Report Share Posted March 28, 2009 Usually Im not that excited by Echo1 releases as the guns the bring out are mainly allready on the market by the original makers. But this time, they have decided to keep the 3 new releases so secret, that it leads me to believe (or should I say "hope"?) that this time these guns may be totally new. Here are the pics. Free internetz for anyone who can certify were talking about an M60, a KAC PDW and a Tavor! Link to post Share on other sites
Coldgunner Posted March 28, 2009 Report Share Posted March 28, 2009 Top = SCAR bottom = MP7? Link to post Share on other sites
Jonny Posted March 28, 2009 Report Share Posted March 28, 2009 Top looks like a SCAR, middle looks like some sort of AR series gun as I see a vertical grip and what appears to be a folding 600m KAC flipup site, and I see a rear drum site on the bottom pic indicating it might be some sort of MP5 series. Judging by the size of that magazine it could also be an HK33/53 or something with a sliding stock perhaps? Link to post Share on other sites
WhutJP Posted March 28, 2009 Report Share Posted March 28, 2009 the bottom looks like an mp7, me thinks. Link to post Share on other sites
Jonny Posted March 28, 2009 Report Share Posted March 28, 2009 Upon further examination I think you all might be right, its like an MP7 with HK416 sites on it now that I look closer... interesting I also noticed on the first package I see something that says "AG ARMS" on the box and another uncovered part reveals "ST" so is it some sort of Stag Arms product perhaps? Link to post Share on other sites
snorkelman Posted March 28, 2009 Report Share Posted March 28, 2009 so are these only going to be available in black? not sure if I like the shape of them all a bit too square and featureless for my tastes.. course if Magpul PTS claim 'artistic works' copyright on the rectangle they be doomed never to get a release Link to post Share on other sites
kken Posted March 28, 2009 Report Share Posted March 28, 2009 i'd have to guess the middle is an M16A4 Link to post Share on other sites
hitmanNo2 Posted March 28, 2009 Report Share Posted March 28, 2009 Yeah, the first one is definitely a Stag Arms AR15. Maybe a replica of the model 2T? Link to post Share on other sites
DarthZug Posted March 28, 2009 Report Share Posted March 28, 2009 I bet the top one is a SR-25, maybe a rebranded A&K or the one JG is making. The middle one may be a SR-25 URX with Crane Stock. The bottom could be a MP7 not sure. Link to post Share on other sites
Unit 318 Posted March 28, 2009 Report Share Posted March 28, 2009 The bottom one could be a shorty 416 like SRC was going to release :B Link to post Share on other sites
Mat Posted March 28, 2009 Report Share Posted March 28, 2009 lol, I suspect they're released the pictures blacked out to: a) Get people talking about it Hide the inevitable disapointment of yet another relabelled item Link to post Share on other sites
Unit 318 Posted March 28, 2009 Report Share Posted March 28, 2009 Does that thing with the 416 sights have no stock? Link to post Share on other sites
Royal-Air-Force Posted March 28, 2009 Report Share Posted March 28, 2009 Have to say the bottom one looke like some sort of M4 / 416 abortion. It has the HK 416 sights, but if you look at the manual at the bottom I reckon I can see the bottom half of the words "M4-XR" and something... Definitely a shorty HK / M4 I think. Link to post Share on other sites
1st_shooter Posted March 28, 2009 Report Share Posted March 28, 2009 I think the bottom one has got to be some form of MP5 varient because of the drum sight and the fact its called Jp-A1. Link to post Share on other sites
screamin_weasel Posted March 28, 2009 Report Share Posted March 28, 2009 is everybody purposefully ignoring the magazine in the box for the last gun ? so blatantly not an mp5 or mp7 its unreal. Link to post Share on other sites
chas Posted March 28, 2009 Author Report Share Posted March 28, 2009 Actually, it could be two MP7 mags lying side by side. Link to post Share on other sites
Coldgunner Posted March 28, 2009 Report Share Posted March 28, 2009 I thought it was a battery Link to post Share on other sites
Royal-Air-Force Posted March 28, 2009 Report Share Posted March 28, 2009 Thats a *bramston pickle* big battery. Link to post Share on other sites
screamin_weasel Posted March 28, 2009 Report Share Posted March 28, 2009 Actually, it could be two MP7 mags lying side by side. fair point. Link to post Share on other sites
Royal-Air-Force Posted March 28, 2009 Report Share Posted March 28, 2009 Aren't the MP7 sights nothing like the generic 416 sights though? Link to post Share on other sites
Mike_West Posted March 28, 2009 Report Share Posted March 28, 2009 Top - SCAR, middle - SR25 (box proportions look exactly like the SR25 from JG), bottom - hell knows. What has an UMP front sight and HK416 rear sight? Link to post Share on other sites
chas Posted March 28, 2009 Author Report Share Posted March 28, 2009 Yeah, they come with flip up sights, but HK416 actually look pretty good on MP7s. What puzzles me the most are these holes along 60% of the gun: Link to post Share on other sites
Unit 318 Posted March 28, 2009 Report Share Posted March 28, 2009 Yeah, they come with flip up sights, but HK416 actually look pretty good on MP7s. What puzzles me the most are these holes along 60% of the gun: *snip* Could the furthest hole back be an ejection port? Right in front of it and above the next hole is one of those "long" RIS bumps, usually where an RIS meets and upper receiver. Also, to address the sights, they're both definitely 416 sights (both front and back) Link to post Share on other sites
fiddlesticks4220 Posted March 28, 2009 Report Share Posted March 28, 2009 Damn the bottem gun may be an mp7 with 416 sights? and as for closer examination of the mag i think its two makes on their side? DAMN U ECHO1!!! Link to post Share on other sites
chas Posted March 28, 2009 Author Report Share Posted March 28, 2009 Why would the top one have to be a SCAR? Neither the front or the rear sights are scar type, right? Regarding the holes on the last gun: yeah, the last hole could be an ejetion port... but on the left side? Link to post Share on other sites
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