RUSHER2 Posted August 7, 2009 Report Share Posted August 7, 2009 I'm not sure if this is a copy of the agm but it's good news for the wa system at rsov http://www.rsov.com/index.php?target=produ...product_id=3804 Link to post Share on other sites
Mega12 Posted August 7, 2009 Report Share Posted August 7, 2009 A clone of a clone!?!?! Link to post Share on other sites
Isamu Posted August 7, 2009 Report Share Posted August 7, 2009 Thats scary... but for 90 bucks anyone could try a GBBR so I think even being a "reclone" its a good thing Link to post Share on other sites
1st_shooter Posted August 7, 2009 Report Share Posted August 7, 2009 im not sure it may be the pictures but it looks off, i think some guns can be tooo cheap. AGM good value with this i think some crazy peep will have to review it first before i consider it over the AGM i have been looking at. I think its the RIS that looks off maybe too thin im not sure just wierd. Link to post Share on other sites
snorkelman Posted August 7, 2009 Report Share Posted August 7, 2009 A clone of a clone!?!?! or just a clone of the same gun that the other one clones.. Link to post Share on other sites
Revenge Seeker Posted August 7, 2009 Report Share Posted August 7, 2009 It just keeps getting better and better... The RIS looks junk though.. Link to post Share on other sites
bbstriker Posted August 7, 2009 Report Share Posted August 7, 2009 To be honest I can sell a brand new WE GBB for $1 only the shipping will cost you $400. RSOV has silly shipping prices that has nothing to do with the real cost of shipping but to do with creating the illusion of low product pricing. $90 for a GBB and how much shipping???? I couldn't actually find out because the link is not working. I gave up on RSOV after so many times being lured by low item pricing only to find out that the shipping reflects the real price of the item and not the real shipping cost. I dislike the kind of selling that RSOV practices. Some HK vendors do it but most like ebaybanned and ehobbyasia are more open about their pricing (i.e. they advertise kit at proper prices) and the shipping is much more representative of the real cost plus a small handling overhead. Link to post Share on other sites
snorkelman Posted August 7, 2009 Report Share Posted August 7, 2009 actually if I remember correctly RSOV shipping is pretty much par for the course, I was doing a cross comparison on a fair number of them recenty versus EBB's 'free' shipping. edit found the actual figures for one comarison RSOV TNT Global Express (3-6 days transit time) - USD79.00 190 total EMS (4-7 days transit time) - USD86.00 197 total gunner TNT 3-5 days Express $81.00 191 total 3-5 days EMS speedpost $79.00 189 total 7 bucks more by EMS 2 bucks less by TNT woudlnt buy from them personally mind you (I prefer dealing with gunner) Link to post Share on other sites
Revenge Seeker Posted August 7, 2009 Report Share Posted August 7, 2009 I think the point was that there's actually a GBBR cheaper than the AGM which RSOV sells for about 30-40 more. Link to post Share on other sites
Frontiers Posted August 8, 2009 Report Share Posted August 8, 2009 i just called WELL factory and this is not WELL, who the hell is this , Just caught DBoys on the line, its not them either and either of them didnt know who it was we have a new 3rd party... Link to post Share on other sites
Stealthbomber Posted August 8, 2009 Report Share Posted August 8, 2009 I would say it's just the AGM gun in an unbranded box but I don't think it is... The AGM trademarks (that is, the SAFE, SEMI and AUTO markings) are laser etched on the AGM. They look cast into the metal on this. Link to post Share on other sites
ED-SKaR Posted August 8, 2009 Report Share Posted August 8, 2009 Even i might get this, just to tinker.... see if i can fit the mech into a decent gun... like an MP5 or a saty... Link to post Share on other sites
acem4 Posted August 8, 2009 Report Share Posted August 8, 2009 Who honeslty believes that AGM makes their GBB??? This is the original before they put thier stamp on it plain and simple. Socomgear makes all their stuff too rite??? LMAO Link to post Share on other sites
Frontiers Posted August 8, 2009 Report Share Posted August 8, 2009 Who honeslty believes that AGM makes their GBB??? This is the original before they put thier stamp on it plain and simple. Socomgear makes all their stuff too rite??? LMAO whats wrong with Yanks today...looks they all have gone nuts and posting crazy stuff around Link to post Share on other sites
beretta Posted August 8, 2009 Report Share Posted August 8, 2009 Who honeslty believes that AGM makes their GBB??? This is the original before they put thier stamp on it plain and simple. Socomgear makes all their stuff too rite??? LMAO Except for the blindingly obvious fact that the bolt in this one is black whereas the AGM one is white. then theres the paint finish on this appears more Mat looking aswell as the fire select markings being different. Going off the box alone, it could be Dboys, Kart, JLS etc etc, all of them have used this similar type of packaging. Link to post Share on other sites
Versus Posted August 8, 2009 Report Share Posted August 8, 2009 whats wrong with Yanks today...looks they all have gone nuts and posting crazy stuff around Not all of us are retarded. Link to post Share on other sites
Frontiers Posted August 8, 2009 Report Share Posted August 8, 2009 Except for the blindingly obvious fact that the bolt in this one is black whereas the AGM one is white. then theres the paint finish on this appears more Mat looking aswell as the fire select markings being different. Going off the box alone, it could be Dboys, Kart, JLS etc etc, all of them have used this similar type of packaging. A&K use very often this kind of carton, i checked already DBoys and WELL (they are known to make this also) but they are not ready, and JLS/KART is not they are not making this one now. Link to post Share on other sites
1st_shooter Posted August 8, 2009 Report Share Posted August 8, 2009 i dont think it to be even worth looking at, with shipping on RSOV you can get the AGM from EBB for the same price with shipping so where is the need for something of less quality. Link to post Share on other sites
Mental Medic Posted August 8, 2009 Report Share Posted August 8, 2009 so where is the need for something of less quality. Well, we don't know for sure whether it's ###### or not. It could be a WA counterfeit by the look of the black bolt. Link to post Share on other sites
MDK_Marshal Posted August 8, 2009 Report Share Posted August 8, 2009 *idiocy* Oh, I DO so love how you have no understanding AT ALL of how HK shops work. Those cheap prices you see? THAT'S HOW MUCH IT COSTS. You know why shipping costs so much? It's being send halfway across the FREAKING PLANET in three or four days. That's about SIX THOUSAND Miles in less than a week. Do you have ANY comprehension of how much it costs to do that? Try just getting to hong kong for less than five hundred quid, for gods sake. Now that we're done with people with no comprehension of how the world works, with nothing better to do than spew idiotic nonsense, Let's get down to the GBB. In short: DO WANT! I did some number crunching on these last night when I first saw them, and just buying them in from RSOV in lots of ten, and had them shipped surface mail, I could get my hands on these for under £75. That's including postage and VAT at 15%. And, on ten guns, the £10-odd charge added by the courier in the Uk will equate to a pound a gun, and is therefore negligible. That's £25 a gun LESS than the wholesale price of the AGM M4. If more people were interested in GBB M4's, I'd be bloody tempted to get a load of these in and start selling them myself. Hell, flog them for a hundred each, make £25 profit on each gun (More if I can be a real business and claim the VAT back), and STILL undercut the AGM retail price in the UK by thirty quid. At the very least, I'll be seeing about picking one of these up at a later date to build it into a full-length M16. Or to do anything with, really. At less than a hundred notes, it's the perfect base for a custom gun... Link to post Share on other sites
Mental Medic Posted August 8, 2009 Report Share Posted August 8, 2009 Oh, I DO so love how you have no understanding AT ALL of how HK shops work. Those cheap prices you see? THAT'S HOW MUCH IT COSTS. You know why shipping costs so much? It's being send halfway across the FREAKING PLANET in three or four days. That's about SIX THOUSAND Miles in less than a week. Do you have ANY comprehension of how much it costs to do that? Try just getting to hong kong for less than five hundred quid, for gods sake. Your tone comes off quite harsh. I see your point, but do you have to be so derogatory? Link to post Share on other sites
LordElpus Posted August 8, 2009 Report Share Posted August 8, 2009 Your tone comes off quite harsh. I see your point, but do you have to be so derogatory? Personally I think MDK was spot on. BBstriker sometimes seems to miss the obvious if not highlighted and underlined. Link to post Share on other sites
Mike_West Posted August 8, 2009 Report Share Posted August 8, 2009 i just called WELL factory and this is not WELL, who the hell is this , Just caught DBoys on the line, its not them either and either of them didnt know who it was we have a new 3rd party... Remember those guys who impersonated JG and sold their Glock 17 as a JG product? Maybe it's them... Link to post Share on other sites
LordElpus Posted August 8, 2009 Report Share Posted August 8, 2009 Remember those guys who impersonated JG and sold their Glock 17 as a JG product? Maybe it's them... I reallyl hope it's not that bad. That glock was just plain embarrassing. Link to post Share on other sites
Frontiers Posted August 8, 2009 Report Share Posted August 8, 2009 Remember those guys who impersonated JG and sold their Glock 17 as a JG product? Maybe it's them... hehe yeah just this time they didnt put any name ive been asking all over today nobody knows who the *fruitcage* they are , continue searching... Link to post Share on other sites
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