M14 Posted July 4, 2007 Author Report Share Posted July 4, 2007 I dont think they do. Ive never really seen a magazine with the right markings. It doesnt really matter because no one reads them. Link to post Share on other sites
dookieboy Posted July 4, 2007 Report Share Posted July 4, 2007 Aww well Marui is cheap, good, metal? right, and reliable. Link to post Share on other sites
pjones Posted July 4, 2007 Report Share Posted July 4, 2007 My Marui VN Mags have the following on the bottom: (Colt Pony in Circle pic) COLT AR-15 CAL 5.56 MM MADE IN JAPAN MARUI CO LTD. ETA: M14, thanks for the info on WGC. Link to post Share on other sites
JCYC5 Posted July 4, 2007 Report Share Posted July 4, 2007 TM is better than G&P? Hardly anyone buys TM here in Hong Kong. G&P AEGs and CA AEGs are considered far superior to TM. Those not looking for metal bodied AEGs in excess of HK$1500 (~US$190) go for the Chinese AEGs. Not TM. Link to post Share on other sites
Lord Blackgoat Posted July 4, 2007 Report Share Posted July 4, 2007 They were discussing the markings on the 20rds mags, not the whole gun. On a side note, TM's QC and gearboxes are still the best available stock in that price range. Link to post Share on other sites
M14 Posted July 4, 2007 Author Report Share Posted July 4, 2007 Weapons Used in Vietnam and the Airsoft Versions These are the most common weapons used by the Infantry in Vietnam M16A1 Developed in the late 50s and early 60s, the M16 was the most widely used assault rifle in the war. Almost every Infantry rifleman carried one. It fired .223 rounds and was select fire with semi and full auto fire modes. The main differences between the M16A1 "VN" and plain M16A1 airsoft guns is the birdcage flash hider and the 30rd magazine. The 3 prong flash hider on the "VN" version had a tendency to catch on Vietnams thick undergrowth so the military switched to the enclosed birdcage one. Both flash hiders were used in Vietnam but the 3 prong is better for early Vietnam gear setups and the birdcage for later Vietnam. Although 30rd magazines were used late in Vietnam in very very limited numbers, it is better to switch it to a 20rd to make it more authentic. WGC Shop Custom M16A1 Tokyo Marui M16A1 WGC Shop Custom M16A1 VN Tokyo Marui M16A1 VN UNCompany Custom M16A1 VN UNCompany Custom M16A1 VN Classic Army M15A1 VN M14 Developed as a replacement for the M1 Garand after World War II, the M14 was used extensivly in Vietnam even though it was officilally replaced by the M16 as the militarys mian assault rifle very early in the war. The M14 fired 7.62mm rounds and was a select fire rifle with semi and full auto fire modes. The M14 had a wood stock and was converted into a short range sniper rifle by many soldiers. Although synthetic stocks for the M14 were developed in the 60s, real wood or imitation wood stocks are better for Vietnam gear setups. You can buy real wood stocks to replace your synthetic one on your M14. G&G M14 Veteran AGM M14 G&G M14 Tokyo Marui M14 M60 Developed in the late 40s and using proven design features from past machine guns like the German MG42, the M60 became the US Militarys main and most extensivly used LMG in the Vietnam War. It was mounted on helicopters, jeeps, tanks, and was also carried by the soldiers themselves as a support machine gun. The M60 fired 7.62mm rounds and was full auto only. The M60E3 and E4 versions of the M60 were not used in Vietnam. Inokatsu M60A1 (Full Steel Version) Inokatsu M60A1 TOP M60 STD TOP M60 DX Escort / Inokatsu M60A1 Asahi M60 M3 "Grease Gun" Developed during World War II as a cheaper replacment for the M1A1 Thompson submachine gun, the M3 was a full auto only compact SMG that fired .45 rounds. It was nicknamed the "grease gun" becuase it resembled one. The M3 was used by advisors, SF and infantry soldiers in the beggining of the war. It was also givin to the ARVN. A silenced version of the M3 was also produced but was not used much at all. Hudson M3A1 Grease Gun Hudson Supressed M3A1 Grease Gun Colt 45 The Colt M1911 was one of the most sucsesfull pistol ever produced by the US Military. It was used in WWI, WII, Korea, Vietnam, and is still used by the government today. The M1911 fires .45 rounds and was carried by high ranking and heavy weapon soldiers in the Vietnam war. Although there are many M1911 style airsoft guns, only certain ones are correct replicas. Theres way too many to list but heres a few. Tokyo Marui M1911A1 Western Arms M1911 Western Arms M1911A1 CKW Custom M1911 KSC M1911A1 WE M1911A1 KSC M1911A1 (Full Metal) More will come soon. I will do segments of guides and info in parts. Link to post Share on other sites
dookieboy Posted July 4, 2007 Report Share Posted July 4, 2007 Keep up the oustanding work man! Hey do you know if the vz.61 scorpion was used by the NVA or VC ? Link to post Share on other sites
M14 Posted July 4, 2007 Author Report Share Posted July 4, 2007 Well, the 61 in vz61 means model of 1961 so thats right with Vietnam era. Czechoslovakia, who produced and developed the weapon, at the time was communist and the VC and NVA were basicly just taking surplus weapons from other communist countries so its very plausable that a few got into the hands of the NVA or VC. Link to post Share on other sites
Tommygunn Posted July 4, 2007 Report Share Posted July 4, 2007 M14, You didn't mention the M16 i.e. no bolt assist, 3 prong flash hider(early or late style) and reduced/no cage around mag release(early or late model M16). The VN thing kinda annoys me as it is a misomer of sorts since both the M16 and M16A1 were both used in Vietnam, the M16A1 being the later replacement. Just going back to the whole XM177 thing, this is where I got my info from. The book is 'Small Arms Of The World' by Edward Clinton Ezell ISBN 0-88029-601-1. You will notice that the XM177, as described in the book, is not like the GAU-5/A in that the flash hider nut is slightly shorter on the XM, the Delta ring is of a different design and the rear lower receiver detail is different. Link to post Share on other sites
M14 Posted July 4, 2007 Author Report Share Posted July 4, 2007 I knew I was forgeting something (bolt assist). Im doing most of the info on the guns from memory so Im going to froget to write things once in a while. Link to post Share on other sites
dookieboy Posted July 5, 2007 Report Share Posted July 5, 2007 Okay good cause I got a TM one...i'll ask the rest of my NVA and VC questions in the appropriate thread now Link to post Share on other sites
Jagdraben Posted July 5, 2007 Report Share Posted July 5, 2007 Actually, not only were synthetic stocks designed, they were issued. When my father joined the Marine Corps in the last years of that conflict, he used an M14 with a brown synthetic stock. Link to post Share on other sites
M14 Posted July 5, 2007 Author Report Share Posted July 5, 2007 VIETNAM PHOTOGRAPHS Patrol Patrol Soldiers in Combat Patrol Patrol Patrol 1966 101st Airborne on Patrol Soldier Returning to Base Soldier with M79 Helicopter Landing at LZ 1969 Patrol 1968 M60 Gunner on Patrol Jungle Patrol Ready for Night Ambush 1967 Convoy 101st on Patrol Helicopter Insertion Soldiers Waiting 101st Soldiers Soldier 1968 Helicopter Extraction Soldiers Hue 1968 Patrol 1968 Tet Offensive 1968 Hue 1968 Patrol 1967 Soldiers 1967 Soldiers 1969 Scout Dog M60 Machine Gunners Dust Off Vietnam Soldier Soldier Under Fire Soldier M60 Soldier Vietnam 1965 Vietnam 1965 Vietnam 1966 Soldier 1971 Soldier 1971 Soldier Under Fire Soldier Vietnam SOG Vietnam Special Forces Vietnam Troops Soldiers Insertion Soldiers Special Forces Patrol M60 Ready for Combat Riflemen Patrol SEAL Australians Soldier with Dog Vietnam M60 Hill 875 Vietnam 1968 Patrol Patrol Hue Helping Soldier Vietnam 1969 M79 Patrol Soldiers Soldier Patrol Patrol Combat Soldier Patrol Stretcher Napalm Patrol Patrol M60 Insertion Insertion Combat Combat Soldiers Helicopter Dead Soldier Throwing Grenade Patrol Soldier Break Combat Flamethrower Flamethrower Battle M60 Firefight Hamburger Hill Rifleman Sniper Sniper and Spotter Sniper on Patrol VC APC Soldier Insertion Village This took a few hours so I hope you guys like it. Link to post Share on other sites
L4byr1nth Posted July 5, 2007 Report Share Posted July 5, 2007 Just for reference, I plan to put a review up soon, but I bought a CA XM177E2 and I love it. Delta ring is a little hard to get off, but if you want the look of an XM, it's a great gun. It's performance is fantastic as well!! Blah blah blah, trades aren't exact, blah blah blah, SF troopers didn't always use the XM, blah blah blah. As for them not being widespread, click on the picture post above entitled 'Soldier with dog'. The lead man is holding one! Infact, a lot of the pics with 'Special Forces', or 'Vietnam SF' are littered with them. I like it, anyway. There's no mistaking that flash-hider. Ben. Link to post Share on other sites
Tommygunn Posted July 5, 2007 Report Share Posted July 5, 2007 M14, Nice one. Link to post Share on other sites
vietnammarine Posted July 5, 2007 Report Share Posted July 5, 2007 Regarding Czech weapons in Vietnam conflict. Opposite to ammunition supplied to NVA and VC, they actually got very, very, very few of Czechslovak weapons and not from Czechoslovakia, but from Russia:))) Vz61 was used by NVA sappers in Thailand. I used to have a photo from ebay, but it got lost during time. Link to post Share on other sites
Tommygunn Posted July 5, 2007 Report Share Posted July 5, 2007 Oh, look who this is! Vietnam SOG(above) http://grunts.free.fr/Sog/4_fichiers/S1.jpg Nice loadouts, Vietnammarine. Link to post Share on other sites
M14 Posted July 5, 2007 Author Report Share Posted July 5, 2007 Just for reference, I plan to put a review up soon, but I bought a CA XM177E2 and I love it. Delta ring is a little hard to get off, but if you want the look of an XM, it's a great gun. It's performance is fantastic as well!! Blah blah blah, trades aren't exact, blah blah blah, SF troopers didn't always use the XM, blah blah blah. As for them not being widespread, click on the picture post above entitled 'Soldier with dog'. The lead man is holding one! Infact, a lot of the pics with 'Special Forces', or 'Vietnam SF' are littered with them. I like it, anyway. There's no mistaking that flash-hider. Ben. <{POST_SNAPBACK}> I never said that they were never used, I just said that very few saw frontline combat with the infantry. The XM-177 was accually a very popular gun with the SF. Link to post Share on other sites
M14 Posted July 5, 2007 Author Report Share Posted July 5, 2007 I just transferd 100 pictures to photobucket so they are easier to look at. Not all the pictures are there but there are some new pictures too. http://s199.photobucket.com/albums/aa59/DiGilio/ Link to post Share on other sites
Tommygunn Posted July 5, 2007 Report Share Posted July 5, 2007 M14, Are the photobucket pics the same resolution as you posted earlier because I'd rather have in my library a higher res picture. Cheers Link to post Share on other sites
M14 Posted July 5, 2007 Author Report Share Posted July 5, 2007 They are the same exact pictures and resolution. Link to post Share on other sites
UMGuy Posted July 13, 2007 Report Share Posted July 13, 2007 I haven't decided on a rifle for my Nam loadout and I am looking to get the BE HK33. Anybody have any inside information? Reviews? And is there any photo evidence of the HK33 or the G3 being used in Vietnam? I have heard the HK33 was, but I ahven't seen any pics of it. Thanks. Link to post Share on other sites
Lord Blackgoat Posted July 13, 2007 Report Share Posted July 13, 2007 100% on the G33 in the hands of SEALs, but I can't scan the picture right now. There were 2 SEALs escorting a Vietnamese prisoner, one of them clearly had a G33. Link to post Share on other sites
LeeC Posted July 13, 2007 Report Share Posted July 13, 2007 There is absoultly no evidence that the skorpion went anywhere near vietnam before or after the war. It's a sidearm with an effective rang of 25m who would want to use it when they had AK's PPSH's and chicom copied Greaseguns! Its like saying P90's are ok in a modern Afganistan SF loadout as its the same period. as for the arms list not a bad start but you've forgoten the M1 Carbines, M21 and m40 sniper rifles, Thompsons m79's that were often seen in the hands of US forces and their allies Link to post Share on other sites
LeeC Posted July 13, 2007 Report Share Posted July 13, 2007 Forgot to mention I haven't decided on a rifle for my Nam loadout and I am looking to get the BE HK33. Anybody have any inside information? Reviews? And is there any photo evidence of the HK33 or the G3 being used in Vietnam? I have heard the HK33 was, but I ahven't seen any pics of it. Thanks. <{POST_SNAPBACK}> They wern't actually HK33's but (Harrington & Richardson) T223's built in the United States under license from HK in 1967 and yes about 50 or so made it to nam but only saw action in the hands of the SEALS in the same way the Stoner 63 and original CAR15 were issues in very small numbers. Couple of pics Also forgot to mention the various shotguns that were a common sight Link to post Share on other sites
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